RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

[Yoloswagking]

Optimistic considering how long part 3 took lmao.

9 months to add some calamity recruitment quest and others "new" monster on a route that is already complete should be ok.

 

[MonMusuLover]

what version of the game are you using ?? 2.41 ? Because 3.04 should have all my saves

3.04 I downloaded from this forum

 

[Tachanka0203]

no opinion on team because I used one powerfull ally on each route and used the ruler's rules to One shot them monster.
For the fairy island item I used mtool to grab the item needed for the upgrade.

hmm thats fair. i would use ruler as well probs but i am yet to grab the newest version of the game to get it. also know anything better than mtool? basically the same to edit properties but without the translation so my pc doesnt start frying

 

[wae1029]

So looking at what updates the wiki has made And speaking from just the monster route. tamamo is supposed to give you a promotion item after you recruit your first Spirit in part 3. Problem is she becomes unavailable for some time after angel world Sabasa. I know she'll become available again and I'll be able to get the item from her then, but this still annoyed me when I went back to the castle and found that she left to recover.

I know that I was doing it out of order because I got the detour dialogue, But the same time the only point I can think of going to the spirits in story makes sense would be after I escape angel world Sabasa and enter the preparation for the Sabasa raid.

Basically what I'm asking is if anyone did the spirits in the intended order of events and the game tells you to go back to the monster world monster Lord's Castle to pick up this reward. Because it feels bad if doing something out of sequence results in you not knowing about rewards that you could claim. It's not a big issue, but I'd like to know.

 

[QuestionTime]

not sure what you are asking. What the medal translation ?
And for the 3.02 it's probably a bug with the number on the starting screen. Look inside you patch folder the file patch.rb. Try editing it with notepadd ++ and see the number on the top. sometime it's the wrong number but the game is still a 3.04 version in most of the case.

The number in the file says 3.02 is there any way to check if that's right?

 

[vosake]

So looking at what updates the wiki has made And speaking from just the monster route. tamamo is supposed to give you a promotion item after you recruit your first Spirit in part 3. Problem is she becomes unavailable for some time after angel world Sabasa. I know she'll become available again and I'll be able to get the item from her then, but this still annoyed me when I went back to the castle and found that she left to recover.

I know that I was doing it out of order because I got the detour dialogue, But the same time the only point I can think of going to the spirits in story makes sense would be after I escape angel world Sabasa and enter the preparation for the Sabasa raid.

Basically what I'm asking is if anyone did the spirits in the intended order of events and the game tells you to go back to the monster world monster Lord's Castle to pick up this reward. Because it feels bad if doing something out of sequence results in you not knowing about rewards that you could claim. It's not a big issue, but I'd like to know. View attachment 4587970

Monte Carlo in part three, has a vendor that sells all of the missed orb job type stuff, from parts 1 and 2. Once you unlock that part of course.
However Im assuming you missed the chance to get the sealed orb from the metatron sisters in the monster realm? It was in Yamatai Village MR, B1F SouthEast, based off of my own notes.

 

[wae1029]

Monte Carlo in part three, has a vendor that sells all of the missed orb job type stuff, from parts 1 and 2. Once you unlock that part of course.
However Im assuming you missed the chance to get the sealed orb from the metatron sisters in the monster realm? It was in Yamatai Village MR, B1F SouthEast, based off of my own notes.

Monte Carlo is beside the point. I haven't played the angel route to even explore the monster world. I'm just more focused on how they don't really tell you that the reward exists and that it is missable. You know since its bad design to put something that important on something that leaves without prior warning.

 

[SuccubusFactory]

it is pokemon like?

 

[vosake]

Monte Carlo is beside the point. I haven't played the angel route to even explore the monster world. I'm just more focused on how they don't really tell you that the reward exists and that it is missable. You know since its bad design to put something that important on something that leaves without prior warning.

interesting, I personally dont think its bad design, but I also like exploring everything, and played both routes...

So on your end you went ahead and did the monster* aka Alice route only... and then immediately went to part three?

 

[wae1029]

interesting, I personally dont think its bad design, but I also like exploring everything, and played both routes...

So on your end you went ahead and did the monster* aka Alice route only... and then immediately went to part three?

I did Alice and illias up to the end of the demo but currently on Alice's route. So I'm playing mostly blind.

Plus, I'm not sure exploring is a good excuse for this since I already talked to everyone in the monster lord's Castle this was specifically an interaction that occurs after you've gotten a spirit and you talk to said NPC. Which I wouldn't really think to do without prompting. I don't think she even gave a clear mission like say Kanon does. If I were to compare it to anything it would be the mimic girl small medal.

 

[Yoloswagking]

3.04 I downloaded from this forum

Well if you picked my most up to date version of the bob mtl you should have my full save folder with save 16 and other post game saves.

 

[Yoloswagking]

hmm thats fair. i would use ruler as well probs but i am yet to grab the newest version of the game to get it. also know anything better than mtool? basically the same to edit properties but without the translation so my pc doesnt start frying

Sorry no cheat engine is better than mtool in my opinion. And save editor don't work well with this game, except for the gold edit, because you can't get the name of the item to change to real name because the data is too heavy to load for save editor.

 

[Metal Man]

So looking at what updates the wiki has made And speaking from just the monster route. tamamo is supposed to give you a promotion item after you recruit your first Spirit in part 3. Problem is she becomes unavailable for some time after angel world Sabasa. I know she'll become available again and I'll be able to get the item from her then, but this still annoyed me when I went back to the castle and found that she left to recover.

I know that I was doing it out of order because I got the detour dialogue, But the same time the only point I can think of going to the spirits in story makes sense would be after I escape angel world Sabasa and enter the preparation for the Sabasa raid.

Basically what I'm asking is if anyone did the spirits in the intended order of events and the game tells you to go back to the monster world monster Lord's Castle to pick up this reward. Because it feels bad if doing something out of sequence results in you not knowing about rewards that you could claim. It's not a big issue, but I'd like to know. View attachment 4587970

I don't even know if it's accurate. You get it for fulfilling a request for her, and the Japanese wiki says it's not available until after Demiurge (that is, before a big point of no return later in the route).

EDIT: Double-checked. Looks like it's only available after doing the four kingdoms and visiting Remina.

 

[Yoloswagking]

The number in the file says 3.02 is there any way to check if that's right?

Probably somewhere is the data file or during chaos route you can get a Ilias ghost inside your castle in easy difficulty that offer you the option to guide you inside the fucked up dungeon of this route.

 

[Yoloswagking]

it is pokemon like?

Yes but you fight yourself directly with your team of monster, and slap your dick and not pokeball on the face of the monster you want to recruit.

 

[vosake]

I don't even know if it's accurate. You get it for fulfilling a request for her, and the Japanese wiki says it's not available until after Demiurge (that is, before a big point of no return later in the route).

EDIT: Double-checked. Looks like it's only available after doing the four kingdoms and visiting Remina.

Im so far glad I havent had to use the wiki much except for recruitment stuff, races, jobs, and the 2nd part post game content.
Its interesting that so many different variables were covered for when people may or may not have missed the content in the beginnings of the story (part 1 and 2).

Once again, I personally dont think its bad game design if the devs were able to think about that and account for it. I mean in my notes i found the dang orb in the monster realm, but the devs made sure someone could find it in part three somewhere or Monte Carlo part three too*.

Is that not accounting for more than a few things? I mean this is the rpgmaker engine, they(the devs) cant easily account for every (single) situation where a person may want to skip ahead.

Another thing, did noone tell wae1029 what happens when they dont finish the first two parts and skip to part 3?

 

[Yoloswagking]

Im so far glad I havent had to use the wiki much except for recruitment stuff, races, jobs, and the 2nd part post game content.
Its interesting that so many different variables were covered for when people may or may not have missed the content in the beginnings of the story (part 1 and 2).

Once again, I personally dont think its bad game design if the devs were able to think about that and account for it. I mean in my notes i found the dang orb in the monster realm, but the devs made sure someone could find it in part three somewhere or Monte Carlo part three too*.

Is that not accounting for more than a few things? I mean this is the rpgmaker engine, they(the devs) cant easily account for every (single) situation where a person may want to skip ahead.

Another thing, did noone tell wae1029 what happens when they dont finish the first two parts and skip to part 3?

For the skipping part, you shouldn't be able to skip any route because the 3rd is only accessible if you have done the other 2. The problem is that the trigger that look for this is not inside your save but inside the data of the game. So if you picked a game folder from someone like me who finished the story you can access the 3rd. Skipping one route is fine in my opinion because you understand the general plot line if you have done at least one route of part 3 but you are missing some pretty good content of the game and the dev created this part 3 with the idea of the player needing to do both route first.

 

[vosake]

For the skiping part, you shouldn't be able to skip any route because the 3rd is only accessible if you have done the other 2. The problem is that the trigger that look for this is not inside your save but inside the data of the game. So if you picked a game folder from someone like me who finished the story you can access the 3rd. Skiping one route is fine in my opinion because you understand the general plot line if you have done at least one route of part 3 but you are missing some pretty good content of the game and the dev created this part 3 with the idea of the player needing to do both route first.

Ok thank you for the extra info Yoloswagking ! But I, like you, have somewhat been reading this thread... post by post and someone made a comment about being able to do the 3rd choice without the others (most likely did what you said with your or another's saves) and they got a "bad end".

No idea if its true or not, but i thought it was interesting. If we can all just do 1 route and skip to the 3rd, then yeah they would miss ALOT of stuff.

 

[Metal Man]

Ok thank you for the extra info Yoloswagking ! But I, like you, have somewhat been reading this thread... post by post and someone made a comment about being able to do the 3rd choice without the others (most likely did what you said with your or another's saves) and they got a "bad end".

No idea if its true or not, but i thought it was interesting. If we can all just do 1 route and skip to the 3rd, then yeah they would miss ALOT of stuff.

Yes. There is supposed to be a bad end if you try to do the third route without doing the others. Versions with completed saves being passed around are sorta breaking the intended function, though you can still get it.
I really don't see why one would want to skip that much of the game anyways.

 

[Yoloswagking]

Ok thank you for the extra info Yoloswagking ! But I, like you, have somewhat been reading this thread... post by post and someone made a comment about being able to do the 3rd choice without the others (most likely did what you said with your or another's saves) and they got a "bad end".

No idea if its true or not, but i thought it was interesting. If we can all just do 1 route and skip to the 3rd, then yeah they would miss ALOT of stuff.

Yes the bad end is something you get if you did the 3rd choice before doing the other 2 routes. But when you get the trigger from doing them, the 3rd choice become the chaos route. But you can only see this end if you use a raw version of the game part 3 or a version 2.41 of the game but with the demo. Because during the demo you could access the big choice but the story ended before going to the new world of these choice. I don't know if you can still find these version, but the raw version 3.04 can be grabed from my gofile if you want to try to do the patching for the translation by yourself.