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Ashoolar1989

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its clearly a game for those that like the thought of sharing their girl just without the emotions behind it its NOT nts or ntr its just just sharing theres no confliction in the MC this is where MGSC is a good view on NTS/NTR if the dev did a little less fan service to donors and yes men the game would be far better add some conflicting emotions and some actual NTS
 
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ItsNotUs

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What things? What message? I personally don't keep track of every post the dev made, but to make such a statement you'd have to be a bit more clear.
There was a screenshot from patreon where the dev answered a similar question about NTR, NTS and whether VI will sleep with someone without Eric's knowledge - i don't remember exactly -dev wrote that the events(scene) will be different, some will think that this is NTR, others that this is NTS, the plot will make people think differently. That plot is developing (it was clear from his words that he didn’t have a ready-made plot, he was signing it gradually) the situations in which the characters of this story may find themselves may be different, the story is not finished so it is not clear what they will have to face.
But in the post above (which didn’t delete) he was already saying completely different things!
 
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Ashoolar1989

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whatever the game is its good fan service for those who want happy endings and thats fine the game had alot of potential surpassing BTW but honestly i dont see that happening for me why having sharing if the MC a chad in bed like why whats the point in that
 
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Sorry, didn't read the last page and that you had the same question I have already expressed.

The following is on point, and I wrote something similar in the Netorase phone thread, where you have the same situation:

its clearly a game for those that like the thought of sharing their girl just without the emotions behind it its NOT nts or ntr its just just sharing theres no confliction in the MC this is where MGSC is a good view on NTS/NTR if the dev did a little less fan service to donors and yes men the game would be far better add some conflicting emotions and some actual NTS
 
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ilkit1234

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Are people really so angry about the last chapters that the developer gave a clear answer, the developer literally gave a spoiler for the entire plot of the game with this answer, as for me it’s better not to give answers at all, so at least the intrigue remains:mad::mad::mad:
It's because there are a few individuals in the thread that keep going after and personally attacking anyone that expresses a differing view or opinion from them. It's a tactic to try and steer the game in a specific direction. Their posts keep getting deleted so it shouldn't be an issue anymore. I think that's why it's important for the dev to clarify.

There will still be plenty of intrigue and adventure to enjoy in the game, just as we've seen in the previous chapters.
 

SymbioticLife

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I wouldn't be so upset.
Because before that he said (wrote) completely different things (this message was deleted - why?)! Everything can change 100 more times! The devs sometimes follow the lead of their "donors", and sometimes they start thinking differently because of "reviews".
It will be possible to say for sure only when the project is finished, but this will happen in at least 5 years!

And yes, when Eric sees VI's dressed in underwear with the Blacket logo, he gets excited - this is a cuckold fetish! When he sends her to the same shoots, or maybe the plot will get to the point where VI will start filming porn and she will obviously fuck with a BBC, this is all cuckold fetish! Stop thinking that all this is not so! NTS is a cuckold fetish a priori - MC shares his girlfriend/wife and he likes it, it excites him!
Why do you type like this by the way! Its super weird!

But there was no other direction. Just to respond to all this last stuff at once the whole reason I had him publicly clarify is he had the same conversation on the discord a year ago. With more or less the exact same response.

Nothing has changed due to patreons or anyones opinions, quite the contrary in fact. One of the things I respect about CG is how hes stuck to his guns, in spite of people (and they know who they are) attempting to push the game in a different direction.

That doesn't mean there will be no intrigue or drama, confused where people get that idea just because theres no clear antagonist and the MC is not a doormat.

Most peoples lives don't have a clear antagonist, that doesn't mean they're drama free. That goes double with the crazy life Eric leads.

In terms of being a cuck, Ill have others argue that. Maybe Erics a cuck, but he will pull more 10s than all thread combined. If thats cuckoldry then sure I guess. Use whatever word makes you happy
 
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CiggguBrawish

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I played the latest update and it's really bad. In my opinion, it's significantly worse than all previous releases. Up until this point, the game was great, and the factor that set this game apart from others was the storytelling and solid and believable characters. But now what? Dominant Maki suddenly becomes submissive because bbc? And shy Anya gets corrupted from 0 to 100 in one minute? It all feels like a cheap NTR cliché now. This is especially surprising considering Dev never rushed the character development, and now they have changed in a matter of seconds.
 

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I played the latest update and it's really bad. In my opinion, it's significantly worse than all previous releases. Up until this point, the game was great, and the factor that set this game apart from others was the storytelling and solid and believable characters. But now what? Dominant Maki suddenly becomes submissive because bbc? And shy Anya gets corrupted from 0 to 100 in one minute? It all feels like a cheap NTR cliché now. This is especially surprising considering Dev never rushed the character development, and now they have changed in a matter of seconds.
While CG does not care about criticisms regarding his vision - and this remains true - the dialogue for Anya will be softened somewhat for the silver release. This was already posted on the discord days ago, and was to due with just what you pointed out, he got a bit carried away during the sex scene and pushed her dialogue too far in comparison to her current development, even taking the alcohol into account.

She has not changed in a matter of seconds, it was supposed to be a reflection of a combination of her being drunk + horny in the moment, but indeed some level of adjustment is being done.

In terms of Maki, I think she's a switch more than a true dom. I do think she maybe should have played a bit more hard to get, I enjoy the tug of war for control myself. But there's room for that in future scenes hopefully.
 

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In terms of Maki, I think she's a switch more than a true dom. I do think she maybe should have played a bit more hard to get, I enjoy the tug of war for control myself. But there's room for that in future scenes hopefully.
Ye I don't even think Maki changed or anything, for me she remained totally on character, very intense. It's not because she pushes around her little brother and her little sister that she has to be sexually dominant all the time with everyone. Especially because as you mentioned, a lot of doms are switch.
Regarding Anya maybe it was a bit fast so it's more debatable. But honestly it didn't shock me or anything, because alcohol is a common tactic from authors to make characters do bold stuff. Once again, I don't mind being surprised and I don't think a story has to follow a clear predictible pattern. Even irl, sometimes things change quickly, sometimes they don't. Shy girls can be surprising sometimes.
Well, whatever.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the story!
 
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I actually did enjoy the update. Yes, the blowjob scene could use a little overhaul considering Anya went a bit overboard, but other than that I thought it was good. I'm a sucker for good writing (talking proper English, terminology, syntax) and the game has made so much progress on that front with every passing chapter.

The bar scene with Anya + Maki for example had some proper girl talk. It felt authentic and believable. Most developers have a hard time coming up with good dialogue for female characters in particular but here I can actually enjoy their conversations without feeling like it was written by a 12 year old horndog. It's obviously still porn so some things are intentionally exaggerated, but good writing elevates any VN to new heights and way too many games lack any effort in that department. One of the many reasons why I do enjoy this game so much.

If I were to give any criticism, it would probably be the development time for this DLC. ~100 images in 2 months was really on the slower side of things. Hopefully that's just a minor hiccup and the rest of 2025 is gonna be as great as 2024 for this project. :D
 
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Yes, the blowjob scene could use a little overhaul considering Anya went a bit overboard, but other than that I thought it was good.
A lot of people complain about it, but I don't get it.
It's a sex scene. It should be as hot as possible. It should almost break a character in a sex-induced haze. And then you can get a rebound in the other direction.

For dynamics to be extreme, you need to twist the character as hard as possible - into one direction, then into the other - until it almost breaks.
That's the staple rule of... every form of art?

For me, this scene could be even more extreme. As long as you keep in mind what the future scenes with both Anya and Maki would be - so the dynamics between characters will remain interesting in the future, and this scene won't be just The End of their journey.
If I were to give any criticism, it would probably be the development time for this DLC. ~100 images in 2 months was really on the slower side of things. Hopefully that's just a minor hiccup and the rest of 2025 is gonna be as great as 2024 for this project. :D
Hopefully. :HideThePain:
 
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ItsNotUs

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Why do you type like this by the way! Its super weird!

But there was no other direction. Just to respond to all this last stuff at once the whole reason I had him publicly clarify is he had the same conversation on the discord a year ago. With more or less the exact same response.

Nothing has changed due to patreons or anyones opinions, quite the contrary in fact. One of the things I respect about CG is how hes stuck to his guns, in spite of people (and they know who they are) attempting to push the game in a different direction.

That doesn't mean there will be no intrigue or drama, confused where people get that idea just because theres no clear antagonist and the MC is not a doormat.

Most peoples lives don't have a clear antagonist, that doesn't mean they're drama free. That goes double with the crazy life Eric leads.

In terms of being a cuck, Ill have others argue that. Maybe Erics a cuck, but he will pull more 10s than all thread combined. If thats cuckoldry then sure I guess. Use whatever word makes you happy
:ROFLMAO: :FacePalm:
NTS -ITS CUCKOLDRY!
Stop trying to calm yourself down and think that it's not true! LOL

Where is the post that was deleted? Is there a screenshot? If not, what are we talking about?

Vi jerks off Sai's cock and Eric at that moment thinks about the fact that she didn't ask his permission and didn't even look at him to make sure that he didn't mind! Yep Eric Alfa Stag - but he is a cuck Alfa Stag - because it also turns him on and he likes that his girlfriend is a slut, slut for everyone!
 

CiggguBrawish

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While CG does not care about criticisms regarding his vision - and this remains true - the dialogue for Anya will be softened somewhat for the silver release. This was already posted on the discord days ago, and was to due with just what you pointed out, he got a bit carried away during the sex scene and pushed her dialogue too far in comparison to her current development, even taking the alcohol into account.

She has not changed in a matter of seconds, it was supposed to be a reflection of a combination of her being drunk + horny in the moment, but indeed some level of adjustment is being done.

In terms of Maki, I think she's a switch more than a true dom. I do think she maybe should have played a bit more hard to get, I enjoy the tug of war for control myself. But there's room for that in future scenes hopefully.
Maybe you're right, my expectations are my problems. I just decided to whine a little. I mean, it's a porn game after all. I don't mind NTR in general, although I'm not a fan of the genre. The game just gave the impression of something original, and I wouldn't want it to turn into a typical cliché, where everything boils down to blacked/raceplay and female characters being corrupted in seconds. In general, my complaints probably make little sense considering what scene the game started with. As I said, my expectations are my problems. Despite everything, the style and art are gorgeous. This is generally the main trump card of the game, and after the developer started actively using animations, it became even better. I'll wait for the next update and see how the story develops. Either I'm wrong or the game is just not for me.
 
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I played the latest update and it's really bad. In my opinion, it's significantly worse than all previous releases. Up until this point, the game was great, and the factor that set this game apart from others was the storytelling and solid and believable characters. But now what? Dominant Maki suddenly becomes submissive because bbc? And shy Anya gets corrupted from 0 to 100 in one minute? It all feels like a cheap NTR cliché now. This is especially surprising considering Dev never rushed the character development, and now they have changed in a matter of seconds.
The latest update certainly wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be. Maki was already acting like a whore from the beginning of the game. And what 0 to 100 are you talking about? Anya has already been turned on by various events since the beginning of the game and it is clear that she is an inexperienced horny teenager girl. Such reactions are natural at this point of the game.

Some of you people are too fragile and you look like whiny kids by making such comments.
 
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