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Pretty sure that whoever gets close to the game renders, uses loras that they have trained from the game's images. There have been multiple discussions about this as well.
I don't have to "out" myself because I've been talking about it in the past. What you don't seem to get is that your posts almost seem like a threat. You're not making this thread a fun place to look at images for everyone, you're trying to hold it hostage. "You either put all the assets on the table, or you better stop posting alltogether".I think you just outed yourself with this silly remark.
This message is for everyone who wants to make stuff.
The other message you cheery picked is for people who want to keep their own findings.
Also regarding the Lora date if that make any sense is possible the smoothe Lora was just uploaded later on civitai.
Or the author made a Lora outside with similar images to train.
I'm a person who advocates creativity more than gatekeeping so expect a pdf guide to make quality images and their drawbacks.
Thanks for sharing. Recently I asked someone to share which Lora's were used in a render, and the guy just kept it like a state secret. TBH I don't get this behavior, people act arrogant as they are real artists doing something special by himself only, but by the end of the day they are still using Loras based in someone else work to make NSFW renders from Disney or any other anime characters.Alright I just found it by accident and I hope this is not what I think it is.
I found the last missing ingredient for the style to work.
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Besides this I think with the rest of these loras you can figure out the right values.
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This Lora is the base
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secondary Lora
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third Lora to give that contrast
my calculated guess is that smoothe Lora is used with melkor Lora to have the same facial shape.
So... Why I am sharing well, I don't like to gate keep, if anyone can make quality images then great. Kudos for everyone, someone found the last ingredient to make it special.
But I also have to give out an opinion. This is just a message to some people that potentially knew about it already. If somehow from the art that's been posted so far, people knew about smoothe Lora and decided to gatekeep then... I'm sorry... why are you posting here at all. Just stop and do other things with your time cause there is no interest in actual fan art of the game, no real passion, just stop.
To the rest, I wish you all happy generating new and quality images.
Ever considered that some people may have spent countless hours to find and finetune loRA's that look somewhat similar to the game? You could've done the same, but I guess calling someone arrogant just because they didn't answer is easier.Thanks for sharing. Recently I asked someone to share which Lora's were used in a render, and the guy just kept it like a state secret. TBH I don't get this behavior, people act arrogant as they are real artists doing something special by himself only, but by the end of the day they are still using Loras based in someone else work to make NSFW renders from Disney or any other anime characters.
Totally reasonable and much appreciated input. I personally don't use Illustrious, but mostly do image searches on google and other sources for a base if I wanna use ControlNet with my image generations. Either running them straight through ControlNet using the lineart_anime_denoise preprocessor in combination with Xinsir's Union model on a rather low weight lately (finally figured out a nicely working setup), or as silly as it may sound- pasting the image into paint and editing it by hand, adding snippets of other images and combine them into one big abomination before running it through ControlNet, img2img and whatnot. I'm terrible with photoshop, so paint is really all I need. lolI've always been quite open with what loras I use, in fact for SoA which I work on I made sure to advocate for us sharing all the various character loras we utilize - easily linked on the fan art page. I also have also pointed people in the direction of Melkor and Vintage, as long as I've known those two in many ways made up the "base" of the look for MNGF. That being said, I don't share out my homebrew loras always because they often utilize others work and I don't want to cheapen their labor (yes, I'm aware of the hypocrisy working in AI, but to my best knowlege Melkor isn't making a NTS VN or even an NTS comic so he's not direct competition) and also I often spent many hours refining those, setting up the prompts for the trainer and redoing them until I got good results.
I have helped at this point literally dozens of people over dozens of hours - some of them who ARE direct competitors in the AI NTS space - in learning anything from the basics to controlnets. I certainly feel no guilt for not sharing 100% of everything I learn with every single person.
For those who are polite and make work I have an interest in then sure, I'll volunteer some of my time. But I'm certainly not under any mandate to give up every last piece of information I have.
In fact I'll even give a small bit of insight into how I've been doing things lately, let's show my hopes for how the night ends with Ari. I create an image first using illustrious, which has superior posing and hands and... well everything. And then I use controlnets to move that to pony.
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(Also, I'm aware Eric's a bit larger than normal here but I live by the adage that a dick is as big as it needs to be for the scene to be hot... That and I was too lazy to fix it , which I could have done with controlnets)
If somehow from the art that's been posted so far, people knew about smoothe Lora and decided to gatekeep then... I'm sorry... why are you posting here at all. Just stop and do other things with your time cause there is no interest in actual fan art of the game, no real passion, just stop.
That is so demotivating to me and really disrespectful to any of the great fanartists providing content here and in regards to the time they may have spent doing their research, getting better at AI image generation in general. Arrogant? No passion? No interest? Telling people to stop posting???? Like fuck, how entitled can a person be?Recently I asked someone to share which Lora's were used in a render, and the guy just kept it like a state secret. TBH I don't get this behavior, people act arrogant as they are real artists doing something special by himself only, but by the end of the day they are still using Loras based in someone else work to make NSFW renders from Disney or any other anime characters.
I use the same process, but with photoshop and layering. Illustrious serves for all simpler images, it's quite advanced compared to pony.Totally reasonable and much appreciated input. I personally don't use Illustrious, but mostly do image searches on google and other sources for a base if I wanna use ControlNet with my image generations. Either running them straight through ControlNet using the lineart_anime_denoise preprocessor in combination with Xinsir's Union model on a rather low weight lately (finally figured out a nicely working setup), or as silly as it may sound- pasting the image into paint and editing it by hand, adding snippets of other images and combine them into one big abomination before running it through ControlNet, img2img and whatnot. I'm terrible with photoshop, so paint is really all I need. lol
Yes pretty much all of them have the same type of feature.I know that Automatic1111 saves its prompts & settings in the PNG's Text structure per the PNG spec. It's super helpful not just for the settings, but keywords and LoRA names with strength. I can literal do an IMG2IMG and click an Icon to load everything perfectly into A1111, then re-prompt as needed.
Question: Does Comfy UI and others front ends have that same kind of feature?
And like my sig's PSA mentions, F95 converts images to an AVIF format for saving. That 2MB PNG will reduce to 200KB -- and lose all that valuable PNG data. Please consider posting an archive or alt location for the original PNGs.
Hooowwwwly Molly!!!Totally reasonable and much appreciated input. I personally don't use Illustrious, but mostly do image searches on google and other sources for a base if I wanna use ControlNet with my image generations. Either running them straight through ControlNet using the lineart_anime_denoise preprocessor in combination with Xinsir's Union model on a rather low weight lately (finally figured out a nicely working setup), or as silly as it may sound- pasting the image into paint and editing it by hand, adding snippets of other images and combine them into one big abomination before running it through ControlNet, img2img and whatnot. I'm terrible with photoshop, so paint is really all I need. lol
What I really don't like is when people come here saying stuff like this;
That is so demotivating to me and really disrespectful to any of the great fanartists providing content here and in regards to the time they may have spent doing their research, getting better at AI image generation in general. Arrogant? No passion? No interest? Telling people to stop posting???? Like fuck, how entitled can a person be?
I was fortunate enough to receive a DM from a user who isn't active in this thread anymore, pointing me in the right direction last year after the release of ~Ch02. But the time I had already spend learning and researching, figuring out and finetuning loRA's&Co slowly getting closer to the game's artstyle...and then people come here shitting on others? Fuck no. It's like you said, I'd gladly help people out if I can. But serving everything on a silver platter when someone acts like the above? Again, fuck no. I should probably ignore it and just do what this thread is all about, but man reading some of the stuff is annoying as hell.
Anyway...I'm currently working on a little idea I've had recently. Might post it soonish. Here's just a random image for now!
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I am optimistic about the future.When you black out for one second
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Wow, I'm incredibly surprised by the smoothness of the hair flip and the hand quality. I'll have to check out runway at some point...When you black out for one second
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