Hungover00

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Regarding Cindy, its currently quite well.

You want faithfull Cindy romance without Axel? You can get it.
You want Axel to plow her? You can get it.

What could be missing is a neutral path when Cindy isn't interested in ian, but realizes she is being played by Axel and nopes out, either giving Ian a chance or even rekindling things with Wade. Or just leading a healthy life in general without being forced to either commit to Ian or be a fuckdoll for Ian or Axel.
She might not have banged Axel if Wade broke up with her first and was in a good place about it. The little discussion about Wade when you bump into Cindy and Axel, she seems a bit offended and wronged about Ian implying she jumped right under Axel. Time will tell though.
 

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Ian lives in an apartment with his buddy Perry.
Lena has 2 room mates Stan & Louise.

Both of them have already "Left the nest." They are independent adults, and Lena is even supporting her parents financially.

Is Holly the same? No...

Holly still lives at home with Mom & Dad!
Holly is literally currently grounded because her parents found her birth control pills!

"Leaving the nest" won't be so simply for Holly, or else she would have done it by now.

I understand how you can think having the characters parents be a part of the story is boring, but I think that it adds depth to the characters when done correctly and in moderation.

We have seen many days in the life of Ian.

We have seen many days in the life of Lena.

We have seen 0 days in the life of Holly. 0... Not one. At least not her normal day to day life. Yes, we get her away on vacation for a couple of days at the beach, or for the writing thing when you first sleep with her as Ian. But those are not normal day to day days for Holly. Those are "Holly on vacation" or "Holly on a work trip".

Does her mother still do the laundry for Holly? We don't know.
How did they find the birth control pills? We don't know.
Do they sit around the table for breakfast / dinner as a family still? We don't know.
Does Holly spend all her time alone in her room isolated? We don't know
What does Holly's room look like is it clean or dirty? We don't know.
How often does Holly get "Grounded"? We don't know.
How many Elephants are in Holly's room? We don't know. We know she likes them, but how much does she like them.
Holly is an honourary protagonist, not an actual one. We hear about her home life, but only as much as she's willing to tell. But the message is clear, she needs to become independent and out of her families control. The reason she hasn't left before is a lack of confidence and being able to imagine that better life. By now, on most every route, she has that now. Plus she has a full time gig and two popular novels. Holly's problem was inertia. Now it's just waiting for EK to pull the trigger on the big housing shuffle that has been building.
 
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Does Cindy's romance/FWB route account for the sociopath Ian who tried to help Wade (wade_cindy == 2) while fucking Cindy or is it an oversight like the slutty Holly in the throuple?
 

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Does Cindy's romance/FWB route account for the sociopath Ian who tried to help Wade (wade_cindy == 2) while fucking Cindy or is it an oversight like the slutty Holly in the throuple?
You can't help Wade and go for Cindy at the same time. If you go for Cindy, the options to help Wade are blocked out.
 
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She might not have banged Axel if Wade broke up with her first and was in a good place about it. The little discussion about Wade when you bump into Cindy and Axel, she seems a bit offended and wronged about Ian implying she jumped right under Axel. Time will tell though.
I'm also leaning into this view, even if it clearly smells of high copium, since what exactly transpired and what didn't remains vague and not spelled out clearly and the whole crisis is more about Cindy being mad at Ian displaying jealousy, reminding her of Wade outbursts.
 

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You can't help Wade and go for Cindy at the same time. If you go for Cindy, the options to help Wade are blocked out.
You can but it's tricky. You need to stop Wade from calling Cindy when he's angry, stop Axel from touching Cindy at the photo shoot and ask Wade at the beach if he's happy with her (wits option). Wade will break up with Cindy and there won't be any pictures at the beach house.
 
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Hungover00

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I'm also leaning into this view, even if it clearly smells of high copium, since what exactly transpired and what didn't remains vague and not spelled out clearly and the whole crisis is more about Cindy being mad at Ian displaying jealousy, reminding her of Wade outbursts.
Axel is both villain and antagonist to Ian, so a good Ian playthrough that helps his friends, and goes for anyone but Cindy, can try and help them both to a happier resolution. As Ian can also do for Perry.

And while it may be on the copium side, Cindy being dumped by a calm and collected Wade probably rocked her world, and fucked with her ego. Which may have turned Axel's advances into something gross, at the time.
 
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Does Cindy's romance/FWB route account for the sociopath Ian who tried to help Wade (wade_cindy == 2) while fucking Cindy or is it an oversight like the slutty Holly in the throuple?
I believe there is a bug that it doesn't take that into account but the outcome seems to be canon if Ian is not on the love path with Cindy.
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PilotLara This is an interesting bug
 
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You can but it's tricky. You need to stop Wade from calling Cindy when he's angry, stop Axel from touching Cindy at the photo shoot and ask Wade at the beach if he's happy with her (wits option). Wade will break up with Cindy and there won't be any pictures at the beach house.
That's (Fight for Cindy) path. This is the only path where Wade doesn't break down from the breakup. All the other path breaks him down.
 

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Got around to play the new update, so here is a compact first impression.

- Great stuff in it for the Alison fans, for all variants of her, be it sweet Alison, experimental Alison and slutty Alison. It is the first time Ian and her can fully commit. Not only sweet Alison, but also experimental Alison. The shot below is from a playthrough with Ian/Alison romance and them having and planning further threesomes.
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- Far too few Holly in the update, be it sweet or slutty Holly. I really hoped for a talk between Ian and slutty Holly, with the option to get together. As a late point to still couple Ian and Holly up. Hopefully soon. A small development here is that slutty Holly posted pics from the holiday on "Peoplegram";).
As for sweet Holly the shocker was her being grounded(!) by her parents, even encouraged Holly! WTF, Holly is an adult and a successful writer. I know myself that you always will be the son/daughter of your parents, no matter your age, but in Holly´s case, that is a bad joke. At least it seems to be the jumpstart for Ian and Holly moving in together sometime in the future.
The pics are from an encouraged Holly run.
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- There is probably the most content of the update for Cindy and Louisa, both who interest me zero as LIs (even if Louisa is quite nice an option for threesomes with kinky Ian/Lena variants;)) so I did not play that stuff.

- Going by what we have with Gillian content, it seems the implication is a reconciliation run is becoming an option, depending on how we play it.
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or is it an oversight like the slutty Holly in the throuple?
by the way, since I still have an older version on HD, how do you get the throuple with slutty Holly in it? I think somepone posted the way, but the thread races on, so I do not know where it is.
 

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Eva tryna catch some folks lacking :ROFLMAO:
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It makes sense it's the bad choice. Later at her place she vents about how bad she feels that she is getting by in the modelling world based soley on her looks, only being seen as a hot woman, and how she wants something more. If Ian unknowinlgy echoes those insecurites she won't appreciate it.
 
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BlandChili

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It makes sense it's the bad choice. Later at her place she vents about how bad she feels that she is getting by in the modelling world based soley on her looks, only being seen as a hot woman, and how she wants something more. If Ian unknowinlgy echoes those insecurites she won't appreciate it.
Poor lil Cindy. Sounds like she needs Lena, a fellow model, to help guide her troubled heart through this struggle~:devilish:
 

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PilotLara Ian also says in my save that Wade didn't handle the breakup well when that wasn't the case while he was talking to Cindy on the romance path.
 
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Axel never posted the pictures at the beach so it is indeed a bug
I thought the implication here was that Polaroids were taken regardless if Axel posted them or not.

As for Holly the shocker was her being grounded by her parents
Makes you wonder what will happen to the slut version of Holly if her parents find out about her escapade with Ivy. Will they cut her off from the family or will the days of the Spanish Inquisition make a temporarily comeback?
 
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Makes you wonder what will happen to the slut version of Holly if her parents find out about her escapade with Ivy. Will they cut her off from the family or will the days of the Spanish Inquisition make a temporarily comeback?
Ian gets to choose! Either Holly leaves her family to slut it up with Ivy or Ian helps her family and gets them both sent to a nunnery. :eek:
 
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I thought the implication here was that Polaroids were taken regardless if Axel posted them or not.
Yes but that wasn't what I was complaining about. In the picture, Ian says "it's worse than the picture he posted grabbing her butt" but this never happened in my save so it creates consistency issues.
 
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