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[UmbralKnight]

kathy finally revealing how LITERALLY everything that happened in the game was her keikaku all-along

 

[CryMaker]

i wish the bartener didn t require me to start over the whole game smh

 

[Turret]

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Sophia belongs no where in the same sentence let alone same universe as Felicia or any of the other cast outside of Warren and her puppet master. Feel sick even typing that.

Felicia has redeeming qualities, an ass, empathy, painting, real blonde hair, a lambo, tan lines, and some big ole titties. Sophia has none of those. If an edgy high school chemistry book was a humanoid, it would be Sophia. Mixed in with a little bit of Bill Cosby.

All you Sophia sympathizers are just typing turrets of gaslighting bullets into sane peoples screens and it’s disgusting.

Hi again and pardon me, but your post showss a very serious Bias!

Felicia and Sophia have more in common than you think and/or like. Both are probably the most intelligent of the girls in the game. Feli has a lot of brainpower, she simply hides it often for various reasons. Sophia is a genius, that has been mentioned by several sources in the game.
Both are real and beautiful blondes, when it comes to their physical bodies.

By the way, you are not a car fan,right? Felicia drives not a Lambo, but a Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 with manual gear shift. It should also tell you something about Felicia in a land where the vast majority has automatic gear.
We currently do not know the car Sophia drives, but it would not surprise me if she too drives a Porsche, but another variant. Probably a black (since she has a faible for wearing a cheerful black ) Porsche 911 Turbo, Carrera 4 GTS or the new Carrera T.

Sophia and Felicia also share eccentrism. While Sophia is a full eccentric and most people meeting her see it soon, Feli has some smaller type eccentrisms of her own.

 

[dolfe67]

I let 50 strangers fuck me in every hole possible so that you could get that PS2 for Christmas" wouldn't fly with any teenager I would think.

And I think you think wrong especially in this day and age. If your mother spoils you with gifts, would a teenager really stop receiving them in exchange to his mom ending her porn career? Even if he's bullied for it, it wouldn't stop the bullying anyways

We have several examples of onlyfans mom's sons who don't give a fuck about their mom doing porn and even doing the filming themselves

 

[Maccabbee]

Some people are repressed puritans, even on a porn piracy site...

 

[ename144]

I'm starting to think that most of you here consider Victoria retarded because that's your preferred scenario over her being a dirty whore.

No, it's the opposite, 99.99% chance people finding out, the only question was WHEN. She was extremely lucky (read: TD made it so even though he created such an unlikely scenario). Consider this: what where the chances that such a perv like Killian didn't stumble upon any of her videos (especially since Chuck must have had those videos in his collection)? And what where the chances HER OWN SON did while no one from his circle did? If these videos were such rare then how the fuck out of all people her own son discovered it?

The odds of randomly stumbling onto Victoria's videos can't be that high since we know for a fact that Killian never saw them.

 

[Maccabbee]

The odds of randomly stumbling onto Victoria's videos can't be that high since we know for a fact that Killian never saw them.

Before getting involved with his uncle's club, Killian was a rather sheltered rich boy, and afterwards was having too much rl fun to scan for porn.

 

[sunaboz]

The odds of randomly stumbling onto Victoria's videos can't be that high since we know for a fact that Killian never saw them.

And yet Edwin saw them. Regardless, there were probably hundreds of children/teenagers in Edwin schools and if you add parents into the mix the probability of anyone of them stumbling upon it (besides Edwin) was sky high. One parent/child seeing it would be enough to turn Edwin's school life into hell.

 

[ename144]

And yet Edwin saw them. Regardless, there were probably hundreds of children/teenagers in Edwin schools and if you add parents into the mix the probability of anyone of them stumbling upon it (besides Edwin) was sky high. One parent/child seeing it would be enough to turn Edwin's school life into hell.

And yet... that didn't happen. Somehow Victoria beat those "sky high" odds and the MC stumbled upon the videos entirely on his own (several years later from what we can tell).

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume Victoria felt the odds of anyone recognizing her was low enough to justify the risk. That's the simplest explanation for the events we've seen, so why not go with it?

 

[TD1900]

I mean, there's a lot of porn out there.
Like an unfathomable amount of porn.

And sure, there are also a lot of people out there jerking it to porn, but it's not like the entire student body at Edwin's school knows what his mom looks like. So, I dunno. Maybe Edwin finding out about it by chance is the dramatic contrivance, maybe him being the only one finding it is. I favor the former, but you do hear about teachers getting fired because of their OnlyFans from time to time. Either way, Vicky is clearly banking on never being found out.

This is all assuming Victoria's real name isn't attached to her work.

 

[ffive]

And I think you think wrong

Honestly, the very idea you'd need to fuck 50 strangers in order to buy a PS2 makes it more than obvious there's far more of hysterical hyperbole going on there, than reason.

PS2 was priced at $300 at launch. You'd need to be paid quite literally $6 per fuck.

 

[Beduin123]

It's actually Sophia who is driven by passion here.

All I can do is just to repeat that some people cannot read. Have you played the game at all?

 

[TangerineTango]

I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was a huge investor/backer of the carnation club xD

 

[Turret]

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It’s above and beyond cannon what transport the fake blonde Sophia has. Spoiler alert, it’s Abel’s Gravy Train to Hell.

Yes yes we can all agree Felicia has better taste than everything Sophia including cars. I get off on feminine natural curves, something cars and Sophia will never have.

Hi again,

since you are so fond of posting pics and gifs of aggression, I think it is polite to send a pic back!


That done, I would like to hear some solid arguments from you, not this foaming at the mouth rambling. Other posters and Imyself made several valid arguments about the similarities and differences of Felicia and Sophia.

 

[Turret]

I mean, there's a lot of porn out there.
Like an unfathomable amount of porn.

And sure, there are also a lot of people out there jerking it to porn, but it's not like the entire student body at Edwin's school knows what his mom looks like. So, I dunno. Maybe Edwin finding out about it by chance is the dramatic contrivance, maybe him being the only one finding it is. I favor the former, but you do hear about teachers getting fired because of their OnlyFans from time to time. Either way, Vicky is clearly banking on never being found out.

This is all assuming Victoria's real name isn't attached to her work.

Hi TD!

I think Vicki has a good chance of never being found out except a handful of people. There is a humungous load of porn out there and more important, Vicki´s porn is comparatively old and harder to find. The chance of being found out is greatest when the stuff is new and direct comparison can be done, esp. if it is amateur porn. In professional porn there can be done things to make recognition of your "civilian" self harder. Make-up and wigs, even just different hairstyling can do many things.
Your run-of-the-mill former class comrade is very unlikely to find out even if seeing her porn.

 

[sunaboz]

And yet... that didn't happen. Somehow Victoria beat those "sky high" odds and the MC stumbled upon the videos entirely on his own (several years later from what we can tell). (...)

Yes, because TD made it so but after latest update it's as far-fetched as it can get.

(...) but it's not like the entire student body at Edwin's school knows what his mom looks like (...)

They don't need to know how his mother looks like, it would suffice that they would know how certain porn star looks like and once she would appear at school (e.g. during parent-teacher meetings or when she would see Edwin at school) someone could recognize her. And let's be honest, with such humongous rack it's hard not to stand out.

 

[ffive]

They don't need to know how his mother looks like, it would suffice that they would know how certain porn star looks like and once she would appear at school (e.g. during parent-teacher meetings or when she would see Edwin at school) someone could recognize her.

Do you have photographic memory of all pornstar faces you've ever seen, to the point you can recognize one, fully clothed and cleaned up, as soon as you spot her on a street? Especially when you seem to pay far more attention to their other body parts than faces, with that rack comment?

And let's be honest, with such humongous rack it's hard not to stand out.

Right, because big tits are true rarity in porn and as soon as you see a woman with big rack there's exactly one porn actress in the hundreds of movies you've fapped to, that'll spark the memory and could be the possible match.

I'm quite curious, now: i'll presume that you have watched your share of porn, and statistically, you've met dozens if not hundreds of thousand of different people in your life so far. How many women you've come across have you recognized as porn actresses? I mean, unless you've lived in the middle of nowhere your whole life, there likely was at least one in (one of) cities you've lived in.

 

[Maccabbee]

Do you have photographic memory of all pornstar faces you've ever seen, to the point you can recognize one, fully clothed and cleaned up, as soon as you spot her on a street? Especially when you seem to pay far more attention to their other body parts than faces, with that rack comment?
...

Ummm... No, not at all...

Context is key though. If you're not expecting to see a pornstar at the grocery store, odds are you won't recognize one that you know. They'd be dressed differently, made up differently, not under the hot lighting of a filming set, etc.

 

[se20299]

The Donovan scene is interesting because it paints Victoria's past in a very different light than Edwin does. Victoria comes across as enamored with the idea of being a "star" and "making art", and her main gripe with the gangbangs is that the guys treated her like a cheap hooker, the pay was bad, and she wants to make more "classy" films. Like Donovan said, no woman shoots 4 movies and comes back for more if she truly hates it.

For the longest time I didn't know what to make of Vicky and her decision to do porn considering all the risks. But the casting couch scene convinced me that Vicky did porn first and foremost because she WANTED to. And while she obviously did it to feed Edwin and herself, Edwin's cope of "my mother did it so I wouldn't have to worry about a thing" looks very flimsy when you consider how enthusiastic and eager Vicky is to get down and dirty, and Edwin is slowly realizing that.

The scene where Edwin debates deleting his porn stash of his mother is interesting because the implication could be that he's either letting go of his obsession or diving into the deep end. The visceral disgust and panic Edwin felt upon realizing Donny sullied his precious mom tells us that he's not as OK with her past as he claims to be, and he's increasingly struggling to compartmentalize whore Vicky and mommy Vicky.

I think Victoria has got a hunch that Edwin is doing something shady, but I wonder if she'll ever find out how unhinged her son truly is, and that she's responsible for that. I really hope they have a heart to heart soon.

Also, Edwin and Ian comforting Vicky in the end is one of my favorite scenes in the game, family is family.

 

[plong]

They don't need to know how his mother looks like, it would suffice that they would know how certain porn star looks like and once she would appear at school (e.g. during parent-teacher meetings or when she would see Edwin at school) someone could recognize her. And let's be honest, with such humongous rack it's hard not to stand out.

A couple of points to make about this:

• Not everyone watches porn
• Not everyone who watches porn will ever see Victoria's videos
• If someone sees Victoria's videos, they most likely don't know who she is
• Very few people will admit to watching porn (bros usually do though)
• Victoria's videos (as mentioned earlier) was made a fairly long time ago, so the circulation must be quite low at this point

So the chance of Victoria's past being discovered is actually quite low, but if it's discovered by the "wrong" person the knowledge may spread because some people just like to gossip.