ffive

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Suppose she had started working for Ian's father's company after her husband's death (or 2-3 years later), she didn't know who he was yet. He demands that she wear the outfit and possibly more (for various reasons, secretaries sometimes have sex with their boss)?
I think you're overlooking what's possibly a keyword in that quote:

"used to have occasion to play sexy legal assistant."

Victoria's husband was a lawyer, iirc. A far simpler explanation to this angle (especially in the context of a reply to "you bring that from home?") is that he and Victoria used to have a bit of kinky roleplay in the bedroom, where she was pretending to be his "sexy legal assistant".
 
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Thor875

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Victoria's husband was a lawyer, iirc. A far simpler explanation to this angle (especially in the context of a reply to "you bring that from home?") is that he and Victoria used to have a bit of kinky roleplay in the bedroom, where she was pretending to be his "sexy legal assistant".
Point for you.
You're making it even worse for me.
She wears the clothes she used to please her husband to the casting for porn films?
 

Turret

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Bro, that hand is definitely Hana's (unless we have a new character incoming...).
Nah, Hana has tattoos on her left arm and doesn't wear a watch. Sophia has bare skin and does.
Hi! I agree with ename144 here that it is most probably Sophia´s arm we see.
Only three of the major girls in the game use black nailpolish, Hana, Kath and Sophia. Hana´s arms are tattooed and she usually also wears various armbands, which are absent here. Kath is not tattooed, but also wears a gold armband or nothing at all usually.
Sophia is not tattooed and usually wears a watch and it is most probably a watch armband we see in the teaser pic. In addition the shown nails are quite short for a woman, both Hana and Kath have longer fingernails than these. Finally the bit of the top sleeve we can see is grey or black. The only girl beside Hana with a faible for grey and black is Sophia.
 

Ungawa

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Beef and relationships dynamics… Kinda falls under the broadstroak of drama that I mentioned does it not?

That's a part of the story. No question. What you're specifically getting into is to try to dismiss the characters and not see the parallels of primary, secondary, and tertiary characters. That's what I'm getting into. Sometimes, with examples I pulled earlier, you try an idea on a less focused on character to see how the audience gages it. Veronica likes mousey women. We were told this. In the gym, she was perving on Mina and the girl didn't really notice. Even then, in a recent update, who did you play wingman for if you didn't want to bang her? Veronica.

And now, you have a choice if you have Veronica hit on Mina. That's just one example.
 

supanon

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Point for you.
You're making it even worse for me.
She wears the clothes she used to please her husband to the casting for porn films?
Well, If you're together for quite a while with a healthy sex life, almost all your clothes have been involved in pleasing your partner in some way or another. Based on how basic the outfit is I doubt that these were especially bought for sexy times but just adapted from regular wear rotation when she and her husband were having fun. Most clothes used for sexy roleplay are just that, regular clothes.
 
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supanon

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The entire game (that is great porn btw) is a sterotype with a BDSM humiliation twist.

Am I getting it?

I'm sorry but: No. Not really. The whole point of this game being more about characters studies, to let them be more then just the most reductive list of character traits. Rather than only being a waifu simulator.

And a great way to do so is offering mirrors and parallels. Lucy, Victoria, Rose can all be condensed to the same shit description: 'mothers who turned to sex work for their kids benefit'

But each of their characters are very different, Lucy is vain and her motives selfish but in her own way non-duplicitous, unable to shield her emotions or her secrets which makes her easy to manipulate, meanwhile Rose is anything but vain, nor are her motives selfish, but guards her emotions and is certainly not above trying to be the manipulator instead.

Victoria has already been discussed in how her character interacts with Rosalinde her arc, but again, her character is still different, them both of them, more grounded, lighter, happier.

in the end none of them are actually merely a stereotypical trope. Even if they can be reduced to such if you just cut away all that makes them their own person. And in the story each character of them and how they act in similar circumstances informs on the other for the player. It tells you who they are, and who they are not. Would I qualify it as high literature? Not really, but it is clearly done for a reason, and for a porn story it's done quite well and enjoyably so.

Now of course, people can differ on if they like that level of character building in a porn story and people can certainly want just "the mom type", "the sporty chick", or the "whore with a heart of gold" or instead "the brunette", "the redhead" or "the blonde" in a harem waifu simulator and be done with it. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Those games are very popular for a reason. But for many the fact that here in this game it's turned into "this specific blonde" instead of just any blonde or "that particular mom type" instead of generic mom type is what makes it stand out. It's the seasoning that makes the dish.
 

mruggeri2

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Man, I love this game but I am the only one who felt like Hana's GF route was kinda.... lacking?

Like, I love her character and I definitely want to keep on her route but it's kinda disappointing how there is basically no return at all for going into her route as opposed to just remaining fuck buddies. The choice comes really early in the game, so you sacrifice a lot of content from the other girls and yet you get nothing in return. I expected some exclusive gf content, you know? Like going on dates, chilling in the apartment and stuff. Some new content exclusive to the GF Route that makes it worth it picking it over the FB.

And I really hate to say this, but it doesn't really feel worth it to go into her GF route. You basically get the same content going into the FB route and yet you can still play around with the other girls. I truly wish we get some exclusive GF route content in future updates.
 

ffive

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Man, I love this game but I am the only one who felt like Hana's GF route was kinda.... lacking?
They've only just gotten into the relationship like few days ago at most?

Pretty sure this will feel quite different for people who get to play the completed game with all GF-specific content in one go, and haven't spent more than half a year fantasizing about Hana GF route and then only got like, 2 days of the in-game time with major focus on other characters.
 
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Man, I love this game but I am the only one who felt like Hana's GF route was kinda.... lacking?

Like, I love her character and I definitely want to keep on her route but it's kinda disappointing how there is basically no return at all for going into her route as opposed to just remaining fuck buddies. The choice comes really early in the game, so you sacrifice a lot of content from the other girls and yet you get nothing in return. I expected some exclusive gf content, you know? Like going on dates, chilling in the apartment and stuff. Some new content exclusive to the GF Route that makes it worth it picking it over the FB.

And I really hate to say this, but it doesn't really feel worth it to go into her GF route. You basically get the same content going into the FB route and yet you can still play around with the other girls. I truly wish we get some exclusive GF route content in future updates.
Funny you mention that when in the last dev diary TD pretty much confirmed Hana will have some kind of unique scene tied to the GF route next update :whistle:.
 

ename144

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Man, I love this game but I am the only one who felt like Hana's GF route was kinda.... lacking?

Like, I love her character and I definitely want to keep on her route but it's kinda disappointing how there is basically no return at all for going into her route as opposed to just remaining fuck buddies. The choice comes really early in the game, so you sacrifice a lot of content from the other girls and yet you get nothing in return. I expected some exclusive gf content, you know? Like going on dates, chilling in the apartment and stuff. Some new content exclusive to the GF Route that makes it worth it picking it over the FB.

And I really hate to say this, but it doesn't really feel worth it to go into her GF route. You basically get the same content going into the FB route and yet you can still play around with the other girls. I truly wish we get some exclusive GF route content in future updates.
At least for the moment, going steady with Hana is more of a roleplaying decision than it is a separate path. If you look at it from that perspective it does give you some unique content, namely the ability for the MC to act like he's committed to Hana (or conversely the ability to cheat on Hana if you're a horrible person who should feel bad).

Obviously it would be good to get some lewd content that's unique to the GF branch as well, but as people have said, it's only been a couple days in game. I'm sure we'll get some unique content as time goes on.
 

Thor875

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Well, If you're together for quite a while with a healthy sex life, almost all your clothes have been involved in pleasing your partner in some way or another. Based on how basic the outfit is I doubt that these were especially bought for sexy times but just adapted from regular wear rotation when she and her husband were having fun. Most clothes used for sexy roleplay are just that, regular clothes.
Sorry for the late reply. It's not about the question of which of these was specifically bought, but whether it is a specific combination and what memory or meaning it had for her. The fact that these are special items of clothing that she wears exclusively in anticipation of sexual acts (in the past and at the moment) becomes clear when you ask about their interchangeability. I don't think she bought the fishnet tights to wear at work or when shopping. (A matter of opinion)
Why does a woman have a blouse in her closet that is so tight (small) that you wonder whether it still closes at all, or if it does, all the buttons fly off her ears? (And that after 6-7 years of "malnutrition").
But seriously, she herself says: Dress for the job you want. It is a specially put together combination that only serves one purpose. She herself associates the outfit with the role of the sexy...
And if she used this combination for role play (one of the most intimate things a couple shares) with her husband, I think it’s bad to wear it to a porn casting and comment on it in that way.
 
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I think he said it's his first writing work. But he's a movie buff of obscure stuff, that might help :BootyTime: He has some talent anyway
Considering the similarities between characters, I’m wondering if TD and Gil are fans of Tomo-Chan is a Girl.

Well, someone in the thread made the work to compare all the "funbags" in the game. With the result that Vicki has the largest bossom of them all and Sophia the smallest.
Sounds like that topic needs to be brought back, or at least the images

If you can speak about small breasts in this game, since even Sophia´s are rather big. The breast sizes are one of the few flaws of Pale Carnations, in my opinion, too many very large ones. But that is always personal tastes at work.
I’ve never heard the words “too many” and “large breasts” used in the same sentence before.
 

Ungawa

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So yeah... I'm looking for the breast comparisons for... Science reasons.

Then I found this post and the details of Vicki...

I was wondering how Edwin became obsessed but then... Yeah, the early days proved we do get locked in and focused on what we like.

I'm not even mad. I missed a lot about the scene. I might have to replay it.

For Science of course...

And found it...

Porn power levels are no joke.
 
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