Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[pinkie96]

The incest had multiple chapters building it up and neither Ophelia or Brenna wanted to fuck Sterling until at least halfway through the game. The bad endings don't have that build up and are sometimes counter to what we've already established like Ophelia's and Kevin's ending and he already had less rapport than sterling did at the start. Which is also one of the reason why hunter's bad endings don't make sense most of the time except for the ones where he drugged them so intensely they became delirious.

Saying it could be canon just because some similar events happen in a completely different game is just stupid.

Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son. In the Kevin ending Ophelia unknowingly drinks Hunter's wine and the viewers release the gas. Kevin's groveling also hits her dom kink.

From her perspective she was extremely horny and had the hottest sex she's ever had. Once she shows up to tell Kevin about their son Kevin is jacked, has his own place and a good job. The stigma preventing her from giving into her desire to shag Kevin was gone at that point.

The Good alternate endings are what ifs based on Sterling's decisions.

 

[storm1051787]

Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son. In the Kevin ending Ophelia unknowingly drinks Hunter's wine and the viewers release the gas. Kevin's groveling also hits her dom kink.

From her perspective she was extremely horny, had the hottest sex she's ever had, and once she shows up to tell Kevin about their son Kevin is jacked, has his own place and a good job. The stigma preventing her from giving into her desire to shag Kevin was gone at that point.

The Good alternate endings are what ifs based on Sterling's decisions.

It does when the guy stalked her for years hacked her accounts and repeatedly tried to black mail. Not everything has to has incest for you to directly have a stigma against it. Like the average person wouldn't be instead in fucking a homeless guy either. And just because a person has sex while black out drunk doesn't mean they are interested in doing it again while sober. That's why you need a pre existing relationship like what sterling has for the drugs to actually work. Hunter success hinges on the fact he keeps drugging them. You guys like Ntr so your insisting that the scene could happen, but no. Ophelia doesn't even like Kevin to be around her. She's not even going to get to the point where the gas effects her because she'd leave him at the front door and wouldn't care about his apology.

And I find it ridiculous that the conversation has even got to the part and that people are taking "kevin's true ending" as anything more than a joke just because it suits your fetish.

 

[elbo911]

In my head canon of this thread, nobody spams their opinions about what is and isn't canon in the game because none of that is relevant to anybody else. This is nobody's fucking diary and who feels the need just makes a text file about it on their desktop.

I love my imagination, it's truly paradise.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

The incest had multiple chapters building it up and neither Ophelia or Brenna wanted to fuck Sterling until at least halfway through the game. The bad endings don't have that build up and are sometimes counter to what we've already established like Ophelia's and Kevin's ending and he already had less rapport than sterling did at the start. Which is also one of the reason why hunter's bad endings don't make sense most of the time except for the ones where he drugged them so intensely they became delirious.

Saying it could be canon just because some similar events happen in a completely different game is just stupid.

Obviously it was going to take a while for the girls to decide to have sex with Sterling; they variously had to overcome loss, anger, virginity, etc., as well as face the incest taboo. But now that those challenges are dealt with, what would slow them down with hypothetical future partners?

When it comes to Kevin, you're probably right. It does seem unlikely that the girls would overcome their revulsion for him so quickly, if ever. Still, I root for Kevin not because I want to see him cuck Sterling, but because I actually like the idea that such even a loser like him can improve himself and find happiness.

Setting aside Kevin (and Hunter) for a minute, I'd ask you to think about the main theme (and title) of this game: "power vacuum". It doesn't matter how much time Sterling spent with the women, if he makes a major mistake, or if he leaves/dies, the girls WILL move on to someone who fulfills their needs. It's not romantic but it's human nature.

 

[storm1051787]

Obviously it was going to take a while for the girls to decide to have sex with Sterling; they variously had to overcome loss, anger, virginity, etc., as well as face the incest taboo. But now that those challenges are dealt with, what would slow them down with hypothetical future partners?

When it comes to Kevin, you're probably right. It does seem unlikely that the girls would overcome their revulsion for him so quickly, if ever. Still, I root for Kevin not because I want to see him cuck Sterling, but because I actually like the idea that such even a loser like him can improve himself and find happiness.

Setting aside Kevin (and Hunter) for a minute, I'd ask you to think about the main theme (and title) of this game: "power vacuum". It doesn't matter how much time Sterling spent with the women, if he makes a major mistake, or if he leaves/dies, the girls WILL move on to someone who fulfills their needs. It's not romantic but it's human nature.

Power vacuum is not a that the girls are automatically going to move on with anyone at all. It's that Hunter and Sterling are taking advantage of the recent power vacuum left behind by the death of Sterling father. You don't actually need anyone to replace his father, they just need to adjust to life without him to fill that power vacuum. It doesn't necessarily mean they'll enter a sexual or romantic relationship with anyone. And even if Ophelia did start dating again it doesn't mean that her new boyfriend would ever get involved with Brenna or Catherine in any type of relationship outside of a paternal one.


As for Kevin he'd find happiness if he'd just go somewhere else and leave the family alone, it's only the fact that he's Ophelia's stalker that he hasn't done so.

 

[Guts97]

Could Sterling and Annabelle's daughter be Ophelia 2.0 with blue eyes?
I'd like a what-if on that.

 

[pinkie96]

It does when the guy stalked her for years hacked her accounts and repeatedly tried to black mail. Not everything has to has incest for you to directly have a stigma against it.

As I already said "Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son."

I never said it didn't have stigma. I'm saying that it has a hell of a lot less. So you can't compare Sterling's progression when he had that taboo working against, didn't have the wine and gas, and doesn't perfectly fit Ophelia's dom kink.

You guys like Ntr so your insisting that the scene could happen, but no.

Consider just for a moment that the reason you're in denial about this could be because you don't like ntr

Ophelia doesn't even like Kevin to be around her. She's not even going to get to the point where the gas effects her because she'd leave him at the front door and wouldn't care about his apology.

You realize that in canon after Kevin is exposed Ophelia invites Kevin into her home to do a seminar on cyber protection for everyone lol

And I find it ridiculous that the conversation has even got to the part and that people are taking "kevin's true ending" as anything more than a joke just because it suits your fetish.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

From her perspective she was extremely horny and had the hottest sex she's ever had. Once she shows up to tell Kevin about their son Kevin is jacked, has his own place and a good job. The stigma preventing her from giving into her desire to shag Kevin was gone at that point.

It's like the saying "it's not sexual harassment if it's welcome."

It would be interesting to put Sterling in Ophelia's place for comparison. We may get to see something like this with Eileen in chapter 13: a sexy but awful person using underhanded means. I wonder whether she'll find redemption like Kevin? I'm guessing not.

 

[pinkie96]

It's like the saying "it's not sexual harassment if it's welcome."

It would be interesting to put Sterling in Ophelia's place for comparison. We may get to see something like this with Eileen in chapter 13: a sexy but awful person using underhanded means. I wonder whether she'll find redemption like Kevin? I'm guessing not.

Yeah I don't see her having a redemption. Kevin tried to do evil things because he was obsessed with getting sex but he failed. Eileen purely wants to and succeeds in terrorizing and ruining her victims lives.

 

[sstrangemd]

Yeah I don't see her having a redemption. Kevin tried to do evil things because he was obsessed with getting sex but he failed. Eileen purely wants to and succeeds in terrorizing and ruining her victims lives.

Did Eileen do something other than bang Brenna's boyfriend? It's been a while so I forgot

 

[storm1051787]

As I already said "Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son."

And I already said that doesn't matter. It's not about Stigma it's about rapport. Ophelia hates Kevin and doesn't want anything to do with him. It's unlikely that she's going to look past all the issues she's had with him repeatedly over the years just because he got in shape, Kevin is the least likely character in the entire game for Ophelia to do anything with.

In the case of Sterling the only thing stopping Ophelia was the incest Stigma. In case of Kevin it's not his apperance that's the issue, but the fact that he's a stalker who harassed for years

Consider just for a moment that the reason you're in denial about this could be because you don't like ntr

You're the one unironically insisting something that's already been confirmed non canon by the dev multiple times is canon because the dev made a joke. If you like ntr and like the idea of Kevin cucking Sterling I've got no problem and really don't care. It's your insistence that it's completely sound and valid alterative canon when we've already been told it's not is ridiclous to me.

You realize that in canon after Kevin is exposed Ophelia invites Kevin into her home to do a seminar on cyber protection for everyone lol

You have somethings out of order. The Cyber protection Seminar happens before Ophelia's ntr scene with him and before she says she never wants to see him again. The Cyber protection seminar is literally so they don't have to deal with another Kevin in the future.

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[Fayn Arawn]

Did Eileen do something other than bang Brenna's boyfriend? It's been a while so I forgot

I'll have to replay the scene between her and Brenna, but the way I remember it is Eileen has always used sex as a tool/weapon to get what she wants, and she hates Brenna (for succeeding without using sex?). So she cheated with Brenna's boyfriend to hurt her, and is now trying to hurt Brenna again through her family, including planning to rape Catherine.

 

[jamiehmcw91]

What if Drew returns for Catherines birthday but this time she is full futa with a reproductive system and willing to get girls pregnant.

I'll have to replay the scene between her and Brenna, but the way I remember it is Eileen has always used sex as a tool/weapon to get what she wants, and she hates Brenna (for succeeding without using sex?). So she cheated with Brenna's boyfriend to hurt her, and is now trying to hurt Brenna again through her family, including planning to rape Catherine.

When did Eileen try and plan to rape Catherine?

 

[newdawn75]

Now I'm at a part in the game where I'm supposed to go to tv room at 8pm for a movie with brenna which is 20:00 and the event wont trigger even tho all other reqs are met.

 

[panzermaster]

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Ok guys, I think I have earned the right to say JACKPOT :

someone wants sisterly love :

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[panzermaster]

To anyone who wishes to know, YES it was long and exhausting to get there, managing to have a shot where both characters faces and body are visible but not naked to not activate the censorship...

I have more that are already prepared, I will release them tommorow. Here is another one for those who want more.
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[Vexx120]

As I already said "Shagging Kevin doesn't have the same stigma as shagging Sterling who is her son."

I never said it didn't have stigma. I'm saying that it has a hell of a lot less. So you can't compare Sterling's progression when he had that taboo working against, didn't have the wine and gas, and doesn't perfectly fit Ophelia's dom kink.

Consider just for a moment that the reason you're in denial about this could be because you don't like ntr

You realize that in canon after Kevin is exposed Ophelia invites Kevin into her home to do a seminar on cyber protection for everyone lol

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Facts

 

[mooncasterdk]

next update when?

 

[dartred]

next update when?

Confirmed dropping this month. No exact date, so just set expectations for last day of the month.

 

[Gwimmly]

second one looks like they were revealing they've been working together all along lol.

That would be a crazy ntr plotwist lol. Although she always came off as the most kinkiest/lewd of all the girls i feel like. Even before all of the aphrodisiac shenanigans. Like seriously she talks about having dildos for every hole even before Hunter arrived I'm pretty sure? Hunter said in the shed what if that he knew Brenna would be the first to fold to the pressure of lust. She is my favorite PV girl by far but she always has that sly(or slutty as Hunter calls it , in the same shed what if) smile like she is being devious or knows much more than she lets on. That's why i kind of wish we got to visually witness the girls interacting with Hunter more like we got to see early on. That's why I like when Hunter's name is dropped during conversations with the girls. Usually them making fun of him, but maybe it's all just an act?

Also another thing why the hell did Hunter pump Sterling full of growth hormone again? Hunter could have exposed himself to the girls showing that he had the largest dong all along which alongside the aphrodisiacs would of pretty much sealed the deal. Instead he made Sterling OP final boss


Has WWG ever made some small Easter egg like connections between some of the what if alternate universes? Like do any of the what ifs share canon with one another? I think I saw this spoken of here before but cannot remember. Anyway would be cool to see something like that if there are any more what ifs in the future. Or even a ntr bad end plotwist but that would conflict with the story a bit too much maybe.