The choice is not:Something > nothing at all
Over a year- the last very small update was in January 2024:A game is referred to being dead this long between updates. It's been like a year now? One year to release an update? When did the last update come out 4th Feb?
Hahahaha, believe in bullshit. Why anybody would sub is beyond comprehension. A year between updates. No excuse
I will say this as an absolute:
This game's delay has nothing to do with the way the choices and path are written and coded. There's no "getting overwhelmed" going on. The delay is purely due to Atem having less time to work on it. Motivation is not his problem. If he followed any of the solutions people have provided so far to change the game for their own preference and convenience, his motivation to make the game would vanish.
So, as the poster right above me said:
The choice is not:
- Stormside As Atem Wants It But Slower - vs - Stormside As Other People Want It But Faster -
The choice is between:
- Stormside As Atem Wants It But Slower - vs - No Stormside
And that's what the choice has always been.
Please stop trying to armchair-dev Atem. Until he got ultra-busy, he's always been very communicative and helpful, both to his own game's community and to the dev community in general. If you personally don't want to keep supporting him this long between updates, that's fine. You don't owe him your support.
But he's said what he's said about the update pacing, and he's said what he's said about the girls' paths and the game respecting the player's choices. Given the game's quality so far, I'd say he's earned the respect of taking him at his word.
so to get SOME of his vision he has change it completely?I just hope something changes, like everyone else here who actually wants to see at least SOME of where Atemsiel's vision is going.
tbf some game (avn) famous one or not so famous one, do have a yearly update cycle for whatever reason.A game is referred to being dead this long between updates. It's been like a year now? One year to release an update? When did the last update come out 4th Feb?
Hahahaha, believe in bullshit. Why anybody would sub is beyond comprehension. A year between updates. No excuse
i really do think it is you that need to delete your post LMAO, you clearly misunderstood his wordso to get SOME of his vision he has change it completely?
The best time to delete your post was before you hit send, the second best is right now.
And which of all the possible options do you think he should pursue? There are three paths for each LI (plus he can reject them). Does he randomly choose a path for each LI depending on what he feels like? Does he choose the same path for all of them? What happens to those who don't want that path?but better to convert to kinetic than to just get overwhelmed and abandon.....I really like the characters and the setting but it feels like 3 dif avn shuffled together...just imho
That he hasn't finished does in no way mean there has been no progress.3. the last post in patreon (december 2024), stated that because of his perfectionist, he hasnt finish the script for the next update yet........ so no progress AT ALL in more than 10 months....
I'm going to assume that the people who are paying are doing so because they want to. I don't think they are threatened or anything like that. If they are still paying after a year, I don't see why we should be the ones complaining about it, they had plenty of time to leave if they wanted to.to be honest this whole mess of people start complaining could be avoidable if only atem paused the patron billing after realizing that there are no progress after months or if he didnt have the time to develop the game instead of leeching of his patron only to say that there are no progress at all in more than 10 month
tbf some game (avn) famous one or not so famous one, do have a yearly update cycle for whatever reason.
the problem with atemsiel are
1. they start to ghost their patron, no patreon post in between month for example no post at all in september 2024; November 2024 and january 2025. i wont count discord chat as a form of communication (even he also start to hide in discord). this is the very clear and bad sign of a game that will soon be abandoned
2. instead of focusing in developing the game, Atem start a side patreon projekt (poll based render) to "appease" some (undestandable) people that start becoming impatient. only to drop the side projekt after 2 months of running.
3. the last post in patreon (december 2024), stated that because of his perfectionist, he hasnt finish the script for the next update yet........ so no progress AT ALL in more than 10 months....
TBH, i am amazed by his loyal paid patron that give atem a minimum 1,2k per month or 120k per year even though atem clearly said that there are no progress in more than 10 months LMAO
wth are you talking about man lol, i didnt defend him nor the patron who still sub, i just stated the situation of his patreon. i already stop sub to him since long ago after the very first sign.What are you talking about exactly. Not in make belief. You made it up. Because you believe in it?
Any other game is dead. But this game has your beliefs. You want it. It's not dead. Promise?
Atem strung you all along. For subs. Otherwise in a year a whole year he'd release something, anything. OH no. But you still believe that guy, because it isn't dead, you wanted it
i am not complaining, just as i said, i am amazed by their willingness to pay for the sub for a dev that already starting to ghost themI'm going to assume that the people who are paying are doing so because they want to. I don't think they are threatened or anything like that. If they are still paying after a year, I don't see why we should be the ones complaining about it, they had plenty of time to leave if they wanted to.
my bad, i mistook the post from another HS avn that the dev has the same/similar problem and both make a christmast post. but i still stand on my point 1 and 2.That he hasn't finished does in no way mean there has been no progress.
In the October update on Patreon he writes that he has
" Around 4500 renders
Just over 93,000 words (In dialogue. I have no idea how many lines of actual code.)
Around 200 animations"
ready for the next update. This does not sound like "no progress." We even see some of the renders in the header for the post.
I agree, I would have liked to see the update sooner, but your argument is simply wrong. If he is actually working on this full time, then he needs to eat, and so, money. He also need to upgrade his set-up to render some scenes, which requires money. Support him or don't, but stop lying.
I am just saying. It's been a year. Somebody deleted my post in this topic on something I know about it. Not discussing, or the forum nazis will delete.wth are you talking about man lol, i didnt defend him nor the patron who still sub, i just stated the situation of his patreon. i already stop sub to him since long ago after the very first sign.