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It never says that you got an excellent result, so not sure what you are referring to. It either says "you believe X has learned something" or "you believe X has not learned anything". If it says they learned something is because their skill went up at least 1 point. Skills also work a bit different than traits and abilities. Since the initial skills (pre-training) are based on the traits and skills the system shows you the value that you would think their skill is based on their traits and abilities plus result of training. This is an approximation and the system will use this until you learn the actual skill value is learned (which will happen eventually after a successful training session). This is not acknowledged in the dialog because it's too complex to explain but it happens.
Sometimes it says something like "Great! Good results are always welcome". I interpret it as if you found the perfect traits/training combo.
 

DyreMezza

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I run in to this odd bug with the new update(1.11)
I did the fcuk training before and completed it.
I want to train the same girl in giving blowjobs next
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After the training is done ,it gives me this information:
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Hope this helps
 
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TotalFluke

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Send Text -> Ask to meet up/Ask where she's at -> Meet up -> Propose Relationship. You then get the "Now you are boyfriend and girlfriend so you should kiss" notification, which leads to the sex after the relationship has started.
Ok, so the issue is that the gossip is not added when the two people are already involved in a relationship. Originally I wasn't allowing relatives to get into relationships at all, which made that check correct. But that changed at some point. I'm not sure if I forgot to update the gossip logic or meant to change it so that now everyone knows that you are banging your sister so no need for a gossip. There needs to be an opinion penalty for that but I'm not sure how to handle it. Will need to think more about it.

I already did that, to no avail. The folder "runtime/tfel" is empty anyway, in my game installation as well as in the downloaded game archives (I just checked 1.09, 1.10 and 1.11 zip files). Overwriting 1.11 with the previous version makes the game run
again.
I have several character / image packs installed in my "characters" folder (all downloaded from the forum). Can they mess up things? Although as I said they all work with 1.10.
Images have nothing to do with it so that's not it. Anyway, sorry I read your initial posting wrong. The error message seems to indicate that it's trying to run a 1.10 TFL file instead of the 1.11. Is as if it didn't install that one file. Can you try downloading the 1.11 game version again and installing it? After you do, look at the file tfel/owner_actions/owner_init.tfl and make sure that the timestamp on it is 3/22/2025.

Sometimes it says something like "Great! Good results are always welcome". I interpret it as if you found the perfect traits/training combo.
No, that message means that the training worked and her skill improved by at least 1 point.

Gabean, you are killing me with your empty posts, they don't show when replying to. Anyway, your employee's stats seem fine so that wasn't it. Did you by any chance changed the AI Costs Factor option setting? I think you set it to 4 which is the max value allowed and that's multiplying her desired salary by that amount. It makes the math work out. It shouldn't be using that multiplier in this situation, so I will fix that, but in the meantime, set it back to 1 or something close to it.
 
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welshhorse

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As always great update.
Just a quick strange one, I did the following old friends husband quest line, and the husband went to the park and met up with me (as in my character picture and name), which was somewhat odd, lol.
 

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I cannot figure this game out. All the guides to making money (which is far more difficult than it should be) say you need singers and hostesses. I follow the guides, I keep staff low, I get a singer. Doesnt boost income at all. I get a hostess. Earns about as much as I get selling alcohol. Come salary time and I'm thousands more in debt with nothing to show for it.

I want to like this game, I love the premise but it either needs to be easier to make money or the process to make money needs to be MUCH better explained.
 

devil999LEXX

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few things

bug found
when you interac with a char and found out that she is a virgin, and dont bang her soon, there is a chance that she will lose virginity to someone else, and in that case when you have sex with her, she will not lose virginity to you, but ye she will have listed rumor is virgin in her description.

can we have new game plus plus ? in which we will have allready laws passed for striptese so game name actualy make a sense.

idea
when you open doors at restrooms in your clubs, pls add more ineractions to it, like try to convince them to threesome, make a scene if you will here your girlfriend...etc.
 

devil999LEXX

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now i encoutered nasty bug.
i started new game with opinion to select look of special chars, so i selected my sister...only to find that after some it changed image to someone completly diferent some time later.
and i use all image packs.
 
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I cannot figure this game out. All the guides to making money (which is far more difficult than it should be) say you need singers and hostesses. I follow the guides, I keep staff low, I get a singer. Doesnt boost income at all. I get a hostess. Earns about as much as I get selling alcohol. Come salary time and I'm thousands more in debt with nothing to show for it.

I want to like this game, I love the premise but it either needs to be easier to make money or the process to make money needs to be MUCH better explained.
The fastest way to start turning a profit is to go into debt and pay it off daily to minimise interest payments (Pay Off Loan does not advance time).

Provided you're fast-tracking the club to three room-based revenue streams (Bar / Kitchen / Entrance -- build one at a time for financial stability) and hiring at a sufficient Lewdness for the lowest wage possible, you'll get out of debt even before it's time to start hiring Singers.

I used to prioritise key traits / attributes from the very start, however there's too many RNG factors at play to do things that way and it takes far too long. Just fill each role with one warm body and don't expand your business hours on days other than Saturday (OK to open Sunday evening for the extra day's revenue).
 

TimTheGrim

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Images have nothing to do with it so that's not it. Anyway, sorry I read your initial posting wrong. The error message seems to indicate that it's trying to run a 1.10 TFL file instead of the 1.11. Is as if it didn't install that one file. Can you try downloading the 1.11 game version again and installing it? After you do, look at the file tfel/owner_actions/owner_init.tfl and make sure that the timestamp on it is 3/22/2025.
I followed your instructions. No change. Same error message. The only folders I left untouched were "characters" and "/runtime/save files". And my old config file (which should be fine since it has been in use since V1.09).
 

XulOnTuesday

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I think the logic of percentage of club revenues is broken. I owe 10% of my club revenue, but wind up paying 10x the revenue. It looks like the line set $rev = club:c.revenue * 30 * $pct; is missing a * 0.01 to convert to percent. However, it could be a save compatibility thing.
 

sappho

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The fastest way to start turning a profit is to go into debt and pay it off daily to minimise interest payments (Pay Off Loan does not advance time).

Provided you're fast-tracking the club to three room-based revenue streams (Bar / Kitchen / Entrance -- build one at a time for financial stability) and hiring at a sufficient Lewdness for the lowest wage possible, you'll get out of debt even before it's time to start hiring Singers.

I used to prioritise key traits / attributes from the very start, however there's too many RNG factors at play to do things that way and it takes far too long. Just fill each role with one warm body and don't expand your business hours on days other than Saturday (OK to open Sunday evening for the extra day's revenue).
So lewdness is the key stat not skill? I recruited a bartender with reasonable skill in serving and a cook with reasonable skill in cooking thinking that would help make more money...
 
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So lewdness is the key stat not skill? I recruited a bartender with reasonable skill in serving and a cook with reasonable skill in cooking thinking that would help make more money...
Lewdness will bring people in the door and raise your fame, which in turn allows you to charge more.

Skill will raise satisfaction, which in turn builds fame and allows you to charge more.

In the beginning, you're much more likely to find a high Lewdness (1 stat) worker than one with the ideal traits / attributes / skills (2-5 stats), even for training later.

By not building your fame quickly, you're going to languish with income of less than $50 per open time slot for a long, long time.
 
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Hubs_in_hose

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Couple of oddities, I'm sorry if they have been mentioned before.

When engaging in groping etc. if you as the NPC if they want to go somewhere more private, and they decline, you don't get the option to ask again. But you can continue in the public place. Seems like until you move to a private location, that should always be an option.

I've seen several times when there is MM sex, it treats the "have sex" option like someone is getting penetrated in their vag. Many times after "having sex" with another male character, when selecting "want to fuck XXX/have XXX fuck you in the ass" they will refuse.

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Also, regardless of M/F if the MC and NPC have been engaging in every sex option, the NPC will often ask if the MC wants to "move to the next step"
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These don't make sense.
 
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So lewdness is the key stat not skill? I recruited a bartender with reasonable skill in serving and a cook with reasonable skill in cooking thinking that would help make more money...
I'm not really an expert on how to make money because I usually get bored after 5-6 months, but I know how not to lose too much money in the first months.

Hire a bartender who:

- is willing to work for around the minimum wage

- has lewdness = 80+ and is not too bad with sociability and focus or

- has a good combination of lewdness + sociability + focus.

Forget the service skill: it can be improved with books and training, but you can't improve traits (sociability, in this case) and it's very hard to improve abilities (focus + lewdness).

If you want to be extra stingy, do not hire a janitor until you're fed up with doing maintenance yourself, or unless it becomes impossible to do it yourself.

If you read the in-game help, you'll see that every room has a "lewdness factor", which means that lewdness is important for bartenders, waiters, singers… but not so much for cooks and janitors.
 
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Hire a bartender who:

- is willing to work for around the minimum wage

- has lewdness = 80+ and is not too bad with sociability and focus or

- has a good combination of lewdness + sociability + focus.

Forget the service skill: it can be improved with books and training, but you can't improve traits (sociability, in this case) and it's very hard to improve abilities (focus + lewdness).

If you want to be extra stingy, do not hire a janitor until you're fed up with doing maintenance yourself, or unless it becomes impossible to do it yourself.

If you read the in-game help, you'll see that every room has a "lewdness factor", which means that lewdness is important for bartenders, waiters, singers… but not so much for cooks and janitors.
Right... considering the RNG nature of the game one can't count on finding a bartender as prescribed - in fact I agree with the analyze - so the only viable option is to cheat the stats of the bartender and keep doing so with the first singer and waitress...
I'm not sure the developer intended this but frankly I see no other option.
Will continue to cheat away with my employees just to see how the game progresses but clearly there must be some game rebalancing on the way.
 

TotalFluke

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I run in to this odd bug with the new update(1.11)
I did the fcuk training before and completed it.
I want to train the same girl in giving blowjobs next

After the training is done ,it gives me this information:


Hope this helps
Thanks will fix. Happens when you already maxed the fucking skill and it didn't gave that option. Everything is off by one in that case, so pick the second entry and it will use the first one shown.

As always great update.
Just a quick strange one, I did the following old friends husband quest line, and the husband went to the park and met up with me (as in my character picture and name), which was somewhat odd, lol.
That is strange and I can't figure out how it happened. There's code specifically to avoid this situation, which is not working but don't see how. Will keep an eye on it.

few things

bug found
when you interac with a char and found out that she is a virgin, and dont bang her soon, there is a chance that she will lose virginity to someone else, and in that case when you have sex with her, she will not lose virginity to you, but ye she will have listed rumor is virgin in her description.

can we have new game plus plus ? in which we will have allready laws passed for striptese so game name actualy make a sense.

idea
when you open doors at restrooms in your clubs, pls add more ineractions to it, like try to convince them to threesome, make a scene if you will here your girlfriend...etc.
The rumors don't go away unfortunately. They go away after a time, but there's no process by which an event causes a rumor to disappear. Haven't come up with a solution to that. Just a bad design that's not easy to fix at this time.

Thanks for the other suggestions. Will add them to the list to consider.

now i encoutered nasty bug.
i started new game with opinion to select look of special chars, so i selected my sister...only to find that after some it changed image to someone completly diferent some time later.
and i use all image packs.
Do you have more details on this? Did you interact with her with the new look and then it changed?

I followed your instructions. No change. Same error message. The only folders I left untouched were "characters" and "/runtime/save files". And my old config file (which should be fine since it has been in use since V1.09).
Ok, no idea then. Obviously the issue is that you are trying to run the 1.11 game but it's trying to load at least one file from version 1.10. I guess I would just install it in a whole new directory. And then manually copy there the save files from the old one.

I think the logic of percentage of club revenues is broken. I owe 10% of my club revenue, but wind up paying 10x the revenue. It looks like the line set $rev = club:c.revenue * 30 * $pct; is missing a * 0.01 to convert to percent. However, it could be a save compatibility thing.
Thanks, yes, it is broken and that's the fix. It's not a save issue, so you can update the code like you suggested.

So lewdness is the key stat not skill? I recruited a bartender with reasonable skill in serving and a cook with reasonable skill in cooking thinking that would help make more money...
Lewdness and the skills are both important. I didn't meant for it to work this way but early on lewdness is way more important that the skills so prioritizing lewdness is all you should do. However, early on, there may not be many choices. You don't lose money when the club is not open, so it's not hugely important to hire someone fast, but at the same time, the earlier you get started the earlier your fame starts to build up. Fame builds up over time, so even a having a low lewdness bartender (say around 0) is probably better than waiting for a higher level one. A typical strategy I use is hire the first > 0 lewdness bartender I find and start building the kitchen right away. Don't waste money training them. As soon as the kitchen is ready, look for a new bartender with higher lewdness and when you hire them, move the current low-lewdness bartender to cook.

Right... considering the RNG nature of the game one can't count on finding a bartender as prescribed - in fact I agree with the analyze - so the only viable option is to cheat the stats of the bartender and keep doing so with the first singer and waitress...
I'm not sure the developer intended this but frankly I see no other option.
Will continue to cheat away with my employees just to see how the game progresses but clearly there must be some game rebalancing on the way.
You are welcome to cheat as much as you want. That's why I made possible to do so. However, you don't have to cheat to get a profitable club. While play testing I've started dozens of games and I never cheat and I can always get the club to become profitable in 10-12 months, depending on how the council votes laws. By the time you get singers allowed, between the added fame of having one singer and the entrance cover charges you should be in the black. I can usually do this and keep the debt under $25000. The RNG does play a factor and some games are easier than others but not once have I felt that the hand dealt was unreasonably hard.

Now, to get there faster you can do three simple things that use your time:
* Give employees as many days off as possible. When they don't show up to work, you do the work for them. When multiple ones take the same day off, always prioritize the entrance since that's all profit, then the bartender, then cook and finally waitress.
* Don't hire janitors until you can no longer keep up with the maintenance yourself. By the time you are doing it twice/day and that's still not enough, then it's time to hire a janitor.
* Get as friendly as possible with the commissioners. The better you know them and the more they like you the easier will be to convince them to pass laws. Focus on the 4 with the lowest will power. Make sure that they like entertainment jobs (helps to get the singer/dancer/stripper and hours laws) and that they hate sharing/helping others (helps with the tax laws).
 
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devil999LEXX

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1.The rumors don't go away unfortunately. They go away after a time, but there's no process by which an event causes a rumor to disappear. Haven't come up with a solution to that. Just a bad design that's not easy to fix at this time.

Thanks for the other suggestions. Will add them to the list to consider.

2.Do you have more details on this? Did you interact with her with the new look and then it changed?
1. well, there are rumors that mc took her virginity, so it posible to modify it to that it will include other chars too ?

2. if i recall corectly that i didnt interact with her after start of game, mayby only she send me some message via phone, and thats all. it was my first intereaction with her in real, that i noticed that she have totaly different pic.
and when i did go to earlier save, i noticed that close to her name is ? instead of her pic, only when clicked on her to find it was different pic there too, just some girl with mask on her face.

and when thinking about new game, will it be possible to add body type preferences generation there ?
i dont know how others, but i dont especialy like womans who weight more than me, but i know there are some males who have kink/fetish for that.
so preference selection/slider will fit everyone.
 
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