Mr. Weeaboo

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It's one thing to listen to community and take ideas, but then you've got to think how to actually implement them in a fun or interresting way.
It's with mistakes like this, that you see how making a game is not that simple of a deal.

endless mode doesn't mean hours of non-stop numbing gameplay. You gotta have some sense of progression, evolution, and especially randomness in powerups and enemy encounters. Each runs shouldn't feel so similar, otherwise there's no point in trying more than once.

And it should have a good pace so it doesn't actually takes 3 hours to complete. I know because that's what it took my friend to do it on the space combat challenge. He told me he had to open youtube on his second monitor to make it more bearable. I mean come on... you know you've failed as a game designer when players resort to this...

Kind of liked the game but this disapointed me a little bit.
progression, evolution, and randomness in powersup and enemy encounters...sooooo the entire game up to this point?

Also the mode uses all enemy types in one go instead of just one per scenario on the planets throughout the story, that's pretty much the epitome of randomness.
 

momoma

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Dec 31, 2018
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progression, evolution, and randomness in powersup and enemy encounters...sooooo the entire game up to this point?

Also the mode uses all enemy types in one go instead of just one per scenario on the planets throughout the story, that's pretty much the epitome of randomness.
You are misunderstanding.
I'm not talking about the poor enemy variation. It's not thrilling to wonder if I'll get an enemy that shoot lasers in a trident or a cross shape in the next few seconds.

I'm talking progression and randomness in the combat flow, randomization in weapons and powers you get, the upgrades, the buffs and penaltys you or the enemies could get.
I know there's already a global upgrading system for the ship, but how about getting one tied specifically to this endless mode, with some new perks that add a little more variety than just a x% of more damage or shield, and that you'll get to upgrade from scratch on each run with possibility of trying different builds.

I'm describing basically any decent roguelike game.

I know that I might be asking for a lot, and that would require A LOT of work. That game never intended to be anything alike to begin with. I mean, the foundation of the game is too poor gameplay-wise to suddenly make it revolutionnary.
But that's unfortunately what you have to deal with if you want an endless game mode to be fun.
Or you could waste your time building a half-assed endless mode instead of working on other aspects of the game.

And Again... It should not be this long. There isn't even a way to stop and resume a run, so it's an abberation to require the player to play 3h long, especially when it's that boring. That should be a choice from the player.

Oh well, maybe we can hope for a better game in the future if they learn from their mistakes.
 
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DicksInSpace

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You are misunderstanding.
I'm not talking about the poor enemy variation. It's not thrilling to wonder if I'll get an enemy that shoot lasers in a trident or a cross shape in the next few seconds.

I'm talking progression and randomness in the combat flow, randomization in weapons and powers you get, the upgrades, the buffs and penaltys you or the enemies could get.
I know there's already a global upgrading system for the ship, but how about getting one tied specifically to this endless mode, with some new perks that add a little more variety than just a x% of more damage or shield, and that you'll get to upgrade from scratch on each run with possibility of trying different builds.

I'm describing basically any decent roguelike game.

I know that I might be asking for a lot, and that would require A LOT of work. That game never intended to be anything alike to begin with. I mean, the foundation of the game is too poor gameplay-wise to suddenly make it revolutionnary.
But that's unfortunately what you have to deal with if you want an endless game mode to be fun.
Or you could waste your time building a half-assed endless mode instead of working on other aspects of the game.

And Again... It should not be this long. There isn't even a way to stop and resume a run, so it's an abberation to require the player to play 3h long, especially when it's that boring. That should be a choice from the player.

Oh well, maybe we can hope for a better game in the future if they learn from their mistakes.
At least you can cheese it with Fow by getting her sacrifice damage high enough and just spamming the map-wide
 

santiheavy96

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Jan 28, 2020
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Guys i just download the 1.1 and the 1.0 save file, changed it to sav and i put it in both folders but it doesn appear, any ideas?
it also happen when i tried the 1.0 version... dont know why i have no save after copy the savefile there...
 

Wamuu

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Feb 26, 2019
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I have returned. Subverse 1.1.0 Ready-to-fap save (Every scenes, every outfits unlocked)
This straight up does not work. I followed the correct address in local Data. I deleted all my previous saves. I put .sav at the end. I even turned off steam cloud. It does not unlock the new content or pandora scenes or outfits.
 

wtf798

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Jun 30, 2020
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Ok so, I just saw all the Fow-chan pandora scenes online, and I have the impression they are not at the same level as the previous animations. Some of them look kinda stiff, I don't know how to describe it.
I also expected to see her getting more mantics. She's the definition of lust herself, but her scenes look kinda vanilla when compared to other girls' scenes.

In general, I would say that if you are not a fan of the gameplay or the story, and is planning to download the game again just because of the new Pandora scenes, better to see them online. Not worth the wait and the storage on my opinion.
 
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denmarkvcl

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Feb 18, 2018
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This straight up does not work. I followed the correct address in local Data. I deleted all my previous saves. I put .sav at the end. I even turned off steam cloud. It does not unlock the new content or pandora scenes or outfits.
Are you slow? If you're using Steam version, the save is in steam\userdata\(ID)\1034140\remote
 
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