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JariloLivy

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Mia looking fine as hell in this red swimsuit. I don't see how anyone can hate this Angel. :love:

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People generally find her less attractive compared to the other main girls. I believe this is largely because MC is able to get close to her too easily, which makes her affection undervalue. In terms of appearance, she’s just as stunning as the other girls. One key difference is that she already has a deep emotional foundation with MC, which means MC doesn’t need to make much effort to win Mia over.

On the other hand, for the other girls, players must go through the process of getting to know them alongside MC. This process gives players a sense of having truly invested effort, which makes them cherish the emotional connections with these other girls more. This is also where MC and the player diverge—when it comes to Mia’s relationship, the player and MC are not aligned. MC already knows Mia, and their bond wasn’t built through the player’s efforts. In this sense, Mia can be seen as the “easy mode” of the game, while the other girls represent the more challenging modes. Of course, this is just an imperfect analogy.

This perspective is something I rarely see discussed as a reason why Mia is less popular. Personally, I really like Mia, but I also understand the common criticisms people have of her—such as her insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. I did feel the pressure from her during my playthrough. So, I don’t think these criticisms are unreasonable. On the contrary, I feel the same with them.

If I recall correctly, during her introduction, we can sense her repressing her desires when she writes about her hopes for the future. I think she’s someone who deeply yearns to fly free but is weighed down by worries about reality. At the same time, she’s incredibly kind, always striving to suppress her anxieties. For example, her interactions with Sophie evolve from guardedness to friendliness. And when she realizes her unintentional mistakes, she immediately wants to apologize to Sophie. To me, this shows she is truly a kind-hearted girl—just someone who finds it hard to let her guard down. She’s far from the exaggerated “yandere” stereotype that some people portray her as.

I believe that as the story progresses, we’ll get to know her even better. I hope everyone can be kinder to her. It’s fine to favor other main girls more, but please don’t overly criticize this kind angel.
 

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Great, just what the game needs :HideThePain:. If it doesn't take too much development time should be fine, still, I think the devs should focus on the story instead of pointless features like a dress-up simulator :HideThePain:
It's already done, they just have to add the dress pols to the game as a sideshow or whatever. No extra work at all.
People generally find her less attractive compared to the other main girls. I believe this is largely because MC is able to get close to her too easily, which makes her affection undervalue. In terms of appearance, she’s just as stunning as the other girls. One key difference is that she already has a deep emotional foundation with MC, which means MC doesn’t need to make much effort to win Mia over.
I think it's a matter of her story role not her looks or personality. She's cute and has a dump truck ass, she would be wife material irl, but the game pretty much forces her on you since the beginning. Sometimes when you take something for granted it loses value. You have to chase the other girls and that's part of the appeal I think.
 

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Great, just what the game needs :HideThePain:. If it doesn't take too much development time should be fine, still, I think the devs should focus on the story instead of pointless features like a dress-up simulator :HideThePain:
Yeah, agree...

Different clothes mean x times number of renders per any given scene (where x is the amount of clothing choices).

Adding a clothing simulator seems a strange choice given the criticism the Devs received over the l-o-n-g development time for the last update. Surely a clothing simulator will increase development between updates.

What next? A volume-like slider to change the MC's cock size?
 

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Different clothes mean x times number of renders per any given scene
Hmmm i don't thing that's what it is tho. Seems more like a photo mode where you can't fit and pose the girls, in the menu or something (like a characters/models viewer in some games). I don't think it's gonna impact the game what so ever.
 
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Hello, everyone!
This week was heavy on coding and rendering. We've been working on a new feature for the in-game laptop that'll allow you to dress the characters and design your own outfits. It's a dress-up simulator! Right now it only includes the main girls but we might choose to add some side girls too.
The dress-up simulator has potential to expand a lot with multiple poses and clothing options in the future, but for starters we're focusing on the clothes already in the game. Ever wondered what Sophie would look like in a red bikini? Well, now you can find out!
Soon we'll get to progress to the individual girl scenes. These are always nice to work on as there is only one character on the screen to focus on, at least most of the time. The rendering rig has also been keeping busy! During the last update, problems started piling up around this time as the outdoor scenes became little bit problematic, but it's smooth sailing now.
We also worked on Freeplay and Ember content, as well as going over the plans for a lewd scene.

Weekly summary:
  • 89 renders
  • Ember dialogue
  • Dress-up simulator
  • Main girl bios/gallery

Other news
The poll for Mia's swimwear has ended and #4 was the overwhelming favorite across all tiers! No need to break out the calculator this time. We've also attached the images to this post in case you want to have a closer look.

Becca from Ember had a little gift for you last weekend!
The special renders will also continue this month.

Cheers and have a great weekend!
Robison & Npx
maybe its just me, but the devs just had major backlash because of a lackluster update, and the main plot not really going anywhere, so I'm wondering who on their team decided that the dress-up feature should take priority over actually moving the game along.
thoughts, chat?
 

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maybe its just me, but the devs just had major backlash because of a lackluster update, and the main plot not really going anywhere, so I'm wondering who on their team decided that the dress-up feature should take priority over actually moving the game along.
thoughts, chat?
Them working on that dosn't mean it take priority on the game Plus working on little side project is always good for the mental when you work for years on something. Also you guys bashing the game all the time is getting old, can we not move on? :)
 

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People generally find her less attractive compared to the other main girls. I believe this is largely because MC is able to get close to her too easily, which makes her affection undervalue. In terms of appearance, she’s just as stunning as the other girls. One key difference is that she already has a deep emotional foundation with MC, which means MC doesn’t need to make much effort to win Mia over.

On the other hand, for the other girls, players must go through the process of getting to know them alongside MC. This process gives players a sense of having truly invested effort, which makes them cherish the emotional connections with these other girls more. This is also where MC and the player diverge—when it comes to Mia’s relationship, the player and MC are not aligned. MC already knows Mia, and their bond wasn’t built through the player’s efforts. In this sense, Mia can be seen as the “easy mode” of the game, while the other girls represent the more challenging modes. Of course, this is just an imperfect analogy.

This perspective is something I rarely see discussed as a reason why Mia is less popular. Personally, I really like Mia, but I also understand the common criticisms people have of her—such as her insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. I did feel the pressure from her during my playthrough. So, I don’t think these criticisms are unreasonable. On the contrary, I feel the same with them.

If I recall correctly, during her introduction, we can sense her repressing her desires when she writes about her hopes for the future. I think she’s someone who deeply yearns to fly free but is weighed down by worries about reality. At the same time, she’s incredibly kind, always striving to suppress her anxieties. For example, her interactions with Sophie evolve from guardedness to friendliness. And when she realizes her unintentional mistakes, she immediately wants to apologize to Sophie. To me, this shows she is truly a kind-hearted girl—just someone who finds it hard to let her guard down. She’s far from the exaggerated “yandere” stereotype that some people portray her as.

I believe that as the story progresses, we’ll get to know her even better. I hope everyone can be kinder to her. It’s fine to favor other main girls more, but please don’t overly criticize this kind angel.
Another aspect to this perspective is that what the player and MC experience are different, so the player formulates different reactions than MC, leading to many "WTF?" comments. MC has this back history with Mia which is slowly being revealed which informs why he is the way he is around her though there are huge missing pieces (did they have a fight? did MC have a total blackout and not remember anything that happened with her after the party so she's in hate/love with him?). The other side of this is that the player sees things that MC does not, Mia's sidelong looks (at the pickup location, on the stairs, the couch and watching MC hanging out at the pool), her sulking on the stairs (if you didn't leave the pool earlier), etc. which leads the player to formulate an opinion of Mia that the MC can't add in to his experience. So yeah, some people think she's psycho creepy and others think she's pining away.
 
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Another aspect to this perspective is that what the player and MC experience are different, so the player formulates different reactions than MC, leading to many "WTF?" comments. MC has this back history with Mia which is slowly being revealed which informs why he is the way he is around her though there are huge missing pieces (did they have a fight? did MC have a total blackout and not remember anything that happened with her after the party so she's in hate/love with him?). The other side of this is that the player sees things that MC does not, Mia's sidelong looks (at the pickup location, on the stairs, the couch and watching MC hanging out at the pool), her sulking on the stairs (if you didn't leave the pool earlier), etc. which leads the player to formulate an opinion of Mia that the MC can't add in to his experience. So yeah, some people think she's psycho creepy and others think she's pining away.
It's the "childhood friendship becoming love" trope. Some people don't like that, especially in a non-harem game. But it has its fans. And Mia's fucking hot imo
 

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It's the "childhood friendship becoming love" trope. Some people don't like that, especially in a non-harem game. But it has its fans. And Mia's fucking hot imo
If Sophie wasn't there then Mia would be my go-to, so nothing against her. I think that if we (as players) didn't see how sulky and petulant she is that more people would elevate Mia as an LI. We don't get that perspective on the other girls as much which might taint some people's opinion. If we saw Sophie writing in a notebook "I hate that bitch Eve and hope she dies" with lots of different drawings of ways Eve is getting horribly killed then I would drop her down at least one notch (because, damn that body and those eyes make up for a hell of a lot!).
 
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maybe its just me, but the devs just had major backlash because of a lackluster update, and the main plot not really going anywhere, so I'm wondering who on their team decided that the dress-up feature should take priority over actually moving the game along.
thoughts, chat?
i hear you brother but i think that's more of a kneejerk reaction on our part. I don't believe for an instance that Northpx is just blissfully unaware of the current consensus of their community. Its more of a side thing that they are interested in working on while delivering what the general expectation is. Hopefully opening new opportunities for future content while not burning their passion out.

Did anyone ask for it? Definitely not but I doubt its actually screwing with their goals for some real story and scene progression. Now if we get TOASTERGATE 2.0 then you're right and my entire existence is put into question.
 
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Hmmm i don't thing that's what it is tho. Seems more like a photo mode where you can't fit and pose the girls, in the menu or something (like a characters/models viewer in some games). I don't think it's gonna impact the game what so ever.
I really hope that is the case.

Having a customized gallery (i.e. "clothing simulator") as a means to view the renders they've already made via their Patreon clothing polls is a lot more palatable than an "app" that allows the player to choose what clothes the LIs wear in-game. I still think it's unnecessary eye-candy, but it wouldn't severely impact development time once set up.

In my rush to judgement, I interpreted the original posts on here as the greater of the two evils.
 
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I really hope that is the case.

Having a customized gallery (i.e. "clothing simulator") as a means to view the renders they've already made via their Patreon clothing polls is a lot more palatable than an "app" that allows the player to choose what clothes the LIs wear in-game. I still think it's unnecessary eye-candy, but it wouldn't severely impact development time once set up.

In my rush to judgement, I interpreted the original posts on here as the greater of the two evils.
Changing what the girls wear in the story/game based on a user menu would require an astronomical number of parallel renders for every clothing combination, so I think this is more of a "paper doll" app where you can pick. Most likely the renders are clothing tests they have already done (like the poll samples that they put out for voting) so will create little or no backlog in the graphics output that might delay the actual game-required renders. Also the code portion may have been a side task they can accomplish waiting on renders to complete and be plugged into the storyline for testing and fixing, so isn't stealing time from main progress. if they are leveraging an existing gallery function with some minor customization the development effort would be minimal.
 
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Changing what the girls wear in the story/game based on a user menu would require an astronomical number of parallel renders for every clothing combination, so I think this is more of a "paper doll" app where you can pick. Most likely the renders are clothing tests they have already done (like the poll samples that they put out for voting) so will create little or no backlog in the graphics output that might delay the actual game-required renders. Also the code portion may have been a side task they can accomplish waiting on renders to complete and be plugged into the storyline for testing and fixing, so isn't stealing time from main progress. if they are leveraging an existing gallery function with some minor customization the development effort would be minimal.
Yeah, i feel like it's more along the lines of opening the girls profiles on the laptop and you can see all their information. Then you can change their shown profile picture with this dress-up...thing...they have planned.
 

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I originally played this at 0.3 and decided to check back in when it was more "substantial." Have we hit "substantial" yet?
 
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