yossa999

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I feel Ocean has made a rod for his own back making the MC THAT broken and it came home to roost this episode. This episode the Bella route reached the point where them two should be sexual. Bella wants to fuck, the MC wants to fuck, they’re close now, they’re attracted to each other, share a goal, they’re similarly broken to the point of getting one another, they decided to have something casual with the potential for it to be serious plus it's the end of the first season. The build up there is done. This really feels like the point that made sense for it to happen.

Without mentioning it's simply not very satisfying to be playing an MC that outright can't fulfill his part of the dynamic it'd be like playing a FPS where the MC can't shoot guns due to PTSD there's a limit on how long that can work. The real reason I feel is the whole “no sex” made Ocean feel he couldn’t give one route sex as it removes justifications for why it isn’t there on any other route. It feels like no sex and broken MC have become more like principals to follow rather than something that adds to the story.

Basically I feel Ocean shat the bed with this episode. It also ain't a great sign that it looks like routes will basically spin their wheels until all the routes are at the point sex makes sense. It feels a bit absurd.
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Man, I think now you've felt a little bit of what MC feels because of his heart dick problems. Frustration, misunderstanding, a feeling of helplessness due to the fact that he isn't able to change his state immediately. Just recall it, that the author constantly focuses our attention on this in the game, and we always brush it off with “yep, sure, broken emo, mental problems, okay, now cut the crap and give us a quality time with <waifu_name>."

Well, he has a perfect moment with Bella in chapter five and so what? And nothing. But isn't that what he was trying to explain to Nami after they left the bar at the end of Chapter 3 before his date with Bella? That it wouldn't work out even if Bella wanted to spend the night after the date with him. That this panic shit won't go away with the snap of a finger. That's why he's willing to take the therapy sessions with Amber seriously instead of just bullshitting to her and pranking the nosy Bella.

And these attacks hit him hard, he had a few exciting moments with the girls at Vic’s - he'll have to run to the bathroom to catch his breath and regain his composure. The same shit in the reading club, a panic attack out of the blue (not really, there are events that provoke this) He can’t cope with this yet. Do you think it would be a good idea for him to try to please Bella in this state in another way, even if he can't get a boner? If he panicked after a slight physical contact earlier.

The dude is still sick and taking the first steps towards recovery, but most of us don't pay much attention to it, as if it were some kind of background decoration or a strange outfit, a minor element of the story. But this is one of the main plot points so far, and many scenes in the game are affected by this.
 

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A yes, that's totally how setraline works :ROFLMAO:

I love the game to death but for a game that prides itself with how it handles mental health, that scene with the antidepressant was just a stretch like damn (then again it is a porn game but that besides the point)
SeRtraline, but yes, you are right it does take a while.
 

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Way to much meta irony about there being no sex scenes, I would not be surprised if Ocean opens 6x1 with a lewd scene. If it was just one, or two mentions I would think that its just Ocean taking the piss about the usual 'trolls', but it happened too on the nose and multiple times in this update, it feels more like self deprecating humor at this point.
 

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Way to much meta irony about there being no sex scenes, I would not be surprised if Ocean opens 6x1 with a lewd scene. If it was just one, or two mentions I would think that its just Ocean taking the piss about the usual 'trolls', but it happened too on the nose and multiple times in this update, it feels more like self deprecating humor at this point.
We know - because the Author Himself told us - that 0.6 (and maybe 0.7 too) still won't have sex scenes.

And that's not meta irony: it's a scene where an embittered young woman is venting her frustration about the fact that her man is impotent. Which is not a trifle, I guess.

That's majestic, guys: we have an adult game where the MC is impotent.
 
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Damn reaction limit (y)
Man, I think now you've felt a little bit of what MC feels because of his heart dick problems. Frustration, misunderstanding, a feeling of helplessness due to the fact that he isn't able to change his state immediately. Just recall it, that the author constantly focuses our attention on this in the game, and we always brush it off with “yep, sure, broken emo, mental problems, okay, now cut the crap and give us a quality time with <waifu_name>."

Well, he has a perfect moment with Bella in chapter five and so what? And nothing. But isn't that what he was trying to explain to Nami after they left the bar at the end of Chapter 3 before his date with Bella? That it wouldn't work out even if Bella wanted to spend the night after the date with him. That this panic shit won't go away with the snap of a finger. That's why he's willing to take the therapy sessions with Amber seriously instead of just bullshitting to her and pranking the nosy Bella.

And these attacks hit him hard, he had a few exciting moments with the girls at Vic’s - he'll have to run to the bathroom to catch his breath and regain his composure. The same shit in the reading club, a panic attack out of the blue (not really, there are events that provoke this) He can’t cope with this yet. Do you think it would be a good idea for him to try to please Bella in this state in another way, even if he can't get a boner? If he panicked after a slight physical contact earlier.

The dude is still sick and taking the first steps towards recovery, but most of us don't pay much attention to it, as if it were some kind of background decoration or a strange outfit, a minor element of the story. But this is one of the main plot points so far, and many scenes in the game are affected by this.
You summed it up pretty good.
It's not his wiener that is faulty, his brain can't cope.

Friends and relatives of mine have experienced situations where they'd rather jump out the window than go through the motion of what lies ahead.
 

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We know - because the Author Himself told us - that 0.6 (and maybe 0.7 too) still won't have sex scenes.

And that's not meta irony: it's a scene where an embittered young woman is venting her frustration about the fact that her man is impotent. Which is not a trifle, I guess.

That's majestic, guys: we have an adult game where the MC is impotent.
It's alright brother, he'll get another pill of sertraline and his boner appear to exist.
 

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We know - because the Author Himself told us - that 0.6 (and maybe 0.7 too) still won't have sex scenes.
Did he tell that after he revealed that the no sex thing(as some already suspected) is not entirely for immersion purposes and in fact very much about keeping it away from the adult tag on steam? :unsure:
 
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Did he tell that after he revealed that the no sex thing(as some already suspected) is not entirely for immersion purposes and in fact very much about keeping it away from the adult tag on steam? :unsure:
We've known for ages (years?) that there'd be no sex in season 1.

The no genitals in season 1 is new, the reasoning for which has been explained by Ocean & others multiple ties.
 

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We've known for ages (years?) that there'd be no sex in season 1.

The no genitals in season 1 is new, the reasoning for which has been explained by Ocean & others multiple ties.
No, what I asked is what Otto said that its confirmed that even next 2 chapters after S1 will not feature lewd stuff.
 

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No, what I asked is what Otto said that its confirmed that even next 2 chapters after S1 will not feature lewd stuff.
Before that. He told it before 4.5 full came out, at least.

It makes sense, after all: the no sexual intercourse until now is totally for plot reasons. Since Amber's therapy won't solve Nika's issues overnight, it's crystal clear that we (and Bella) will have to wait for a while.
 

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We know - because the Author Himself told us - that 0.6 (and maybe 0.7 too) still won't have sex scenes.
Please don't tell me you're serious... Wtf is he going to do with Mila? Genuinely just sleep?

I understand his impotence from a story perspective but if this is going to remain a pre-teen VN Ocean better be cooking some Pinkcake/Caribdis-tier lewds for 2027. His broken dick is annoying, cant imagine someone with Bella's personality tolerating it irl.
 

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I have a game breaking error after the end of last update in the Nami path… anyone got that? In the Bella path it didn’t occure…
 

Ottoeight

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Oops, I missed that, did he really say the start of season 2 would be lewd-free?
No sex scenes don't mean no lewd scenes. We saw fondling boobies before he self-censored.


Please don't tell me you're serious... Wtf is he going to do with Mila? Genuinely just sleep?

I understand his impotence from a story perspective but if this is going to remain a pre-teen VN Ocean better be cooking some Pinkcake/Caribdis-tier lewds for 2027. His broken dick is annoying, cant imagine someone with Bella's personality tolerating it irl.
What did you expect? his little fellow is dead. As Bella said, let's hope Amber's therapy will help him (sooner than later). Most likely we won't see any "action" before the therapy session in the cabin (I bet it will be a decisive moment).
 
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