VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[AlexFXR]

That she is very, very, very, very poor. And if we point out that Nojiko has more money than they say in the game, and we point out as a clue that they are in that (elite) university, Mila would be a plot hole (unless there are additional explanations, quite a few).

As far as I remember the plot, Nojiko’s children study at a regular university. Bella's neighbor and those who offended Mila study at an elite university.

 

[John972]

Are you starting to argue again? Why can I afford to buy a 2nd floor house that is much larger than Nojiko’s and I have 2 cars, although the salary is the same as that of an ordinary doctor? If you don’t know how to go to the healthcare website and see all the information, you don’t know the prices, you don’t know the salary, you don’t know the standard of living, explain how you can have a dialogue with you on this topic? I'm not interested in arguments and meaningless conversations.

Don't light a match while you are gaslighting...

It's not about me. I asked you to backup what you claim are specific plotholes with actual game scenes and/or dialogue. You can't because you are imposing your unsubstantiated opinion... so you GASLIGHT to deflect!

To be honest, who gives a flying fuck what you can afford to buy in your particular part of the world. It's totally irrelevant. Other parts of the world have really expensive housing in sizeable cities, even housing stock built in the 40s-70s.

Hey, I drive on the opposite side of the road to SG, but you don't see me bitchin' or moaning about it, claiming it's a game plothole.

To reiterate: YOU CANNOT SUBSTANTIATE NOJIKO IS A MEDICAL SPECIALIST EARNING $200,000, WHO LIVES IN A HOUSE WORTH $50,000.

Bye...

 

[KekWGgWP]

The best review for me is reading my peers talking about them into their threads, and the signatures.

You can find gems by following the rabbit role from people you pay attention.

What turns me away from games is having a trope I dislike.
If people would day what they dislike most about SG would be lack of sex.

A simple one. Barring only the perpetually horny.

Literally me

 

[Bombmaster]

Don't light a match while you are gaslighting...

It's not about me. I asked you to backup what you claim are specific plotholes with actual game scenes and/or dialogue. You can't because you are imposing your unsubstantiated opinion... so you GASLIGHT to deflect!

To be honest, who gives a flying fuck what you can afford to buy in your particular part of the world. It's totally irrelevant.

Hey, I drive on the opposite side of the road to SG, but you don't see me bitchin' or moaning about it, claiming it's a game plothole.

To reiterate: YOU CANNOT SUBSTANTIATE NOJIKO IS A MEDICAL SPECIALIST EARNING $200,000, WHO LIVES IN A HOUSE WORTH $50,000.

Bye...

This discussion is ongoing so I'm just ask shamelessly. Is the house Nika live rented? Or Nojiko owns it.

The money is on the land deed if the house is old and battered don't matter.

 

[Acsuka]

I didn't read the reviews, I discovered this VN some time ago on the updates page and decided to try it.

From the first moment I loved the renderings, the animations (even if I think they are a little slow and there are too many transitions), and the story that slowly unfolded as we progressed.
I can't wait to get even further with the story, I think it's beautiful so far.
I wish Ocean to be able to continue his project and I wish him all the best.

And hopefully you're young, because this amazing story will be around for many years before it ends...
If you believe in miracles, this is your place...

 

[Doomyk]

A little theory about the situation with Amber. It may be that was no big secret and Najiko simply did not want Nika to know about their acquaintance, so that he could be comfortable and as honest as possible with Amber during therapy and nothing else. However, it’s ironic, but this is exactly what triggered and alerted Nika and now he can really find something that Naji is really trying to hide.

 

[RNasc4444]

As far as I remember the plot, Nojiko’s children study at a regular university. Bella's neighbor and those who offended Mila study at an elite university.

This is actually a plot point that needs to be explained eventually. As far as I understood you are right, the Uni our main characters are attending is a regular one. Why would the children of powerful, influential and rich families such as Ayua, Bella and Zara be attending a regular college when they could be attending an elite one? And why does the major ZPR sponsorship happen in that particular college and in the same year the main cast is starting their college life?

 

[Doomyk]

This is actually a plot point that needs to be explained eventually. As far as I understood you are right, the Uni our main characters are attending is a regular one. Why would the children of powerful, influential and rich families such as Ayua, Bella and Zara be attending a regular college when they could be attending an elite one? And why does the major ZPR sponsorship happen in that particular college and in the same year the main cast is starting their college life?

Cause Ayua-Zane,Sasha-Petrova. Why is it weird that they go to a college that belongs to their clan? It would be stranger if they went to a rival college.

 

[John972]

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This is actually a plot point that needs to be explained eventually. As far as I understood you are right, the Uni our main characters are attending is a regular one. Why would the children of powerful, influential and rich families such as Ayua, Bella and Zara be attending a regular college when they could be attending an elite one? And why does the major ZPR sponsorship happen in that particular college and in the same year the main cast is starting their college life?

Although not fully clarified yet in the game, there's another college seemingly more elite than ZPR - Jackson & Schwartz College.

Vanessa, Mario Holgerson, Antony Reus, and Melanie Ceril go there. Zara told the MC: "Have you ever heard of the Jackson & Schwartz college? My sister and her boyfriend go there and you need some serious money to be accepted."

 

[RNasc4444]

Cause Ayua-Zane,Sasha-Petrova. Why is it weird that they go to a college that belongs to their clan? It would be stranger if they went to a rival college.

Maybe I'm missing something but like I said the ZPR sponsorship is new. They mention it multiple times right? Was there any previous link between that college and their families? I've never played WiAB so there is plenty of lore I don't know about.

 

[AlexFXR]

Why don't you address that to Ocean himself this topic? you have his Discord published and Patreon too if you are donating to him, ask him about that.

I think that he is the one who can give you a determinant answer if you aren't satisfied with other users answers.

He's developing 2 games at the same time, and I don't believe he can finish them. And I’m not going to wait 25 years for the games to be ready. If Ocean develops only one game at a time, he will immediately receive money from me.

 

[KekWGgWP]

He's developing 2 games at the same time, and I don't believe he can finish them. And I’m not going to wait 25 years for the games to be ready. If Ocean develops only one game at a time, he will immediately receive money from me.

Uh i think you misunderstood me, i didn't told you to donate to him if you don't want to, i offered you his Patreon as a way of communication in case you already donate to him so you can ask him about Noji's financial situation.

 

[Bombmaster]

This is actually a plot point that needs to be explained eventually. As far as I understood you are right, the Uni our main characters are attending is a regular one. Why would the children of powerful, influential and rich families such as Ayua, Bella and Zara be attending a regular college when they could be attending an elite one? And why does the major ZPR sponsorship happen in that particular college and in the same year the main cast is starting their college life?

We could gather our collective brain and find some inconsistencies from the plot, the college bit should be a reasonable tuition and with ties with the mentioned families.

He's developing 2 games at the same time, and I don't believe he can finish them. And I’m not going to wait 25 years for the games to be ready. If Ocean develops only one game at a time, he will immediately receive money from me.

Maybe if the reception from wiab is shallow in comparison to SG by his own initiative he puts SG on the driver seat.

Change comes from within

 

[AlexFXR]

Don't light a match while you are gaslighting...

It's not about me. I asked you to backup what you claim are specific plotholes with actual game scenes and/or dialogue. You can't because you are imposing your unsubstantiated opinion... so you GASLIGHT to deflect!

To be honest, who gives a flying fuck what you can afford to buy in your particular part of the world. It's totally irrelevant. Other parts of the world have really expensive housing in sizeable cities, even housing stock built in the 40s-70s.

Hey, I drive on the opposite side of the road to SG, but you don't see me bitchin' or moaning about it, claiming it's a game plothole.

To reiterate: YOU CANNOT SUBSTANTIATE NOJIKO IS A MEDICAL SPECIALIST EARNING $200,000, WHO LIVES IN A HOUSE WORTH $50,000.

Bye...

Again you start arguing... You don’t know the usual things that most people know, are you suggesting that I teach you?
1- Have you seen the material of the house? This tree is only used in poor houses.
2- Have you seen the size of the rooms? I think there is no need to explain anything here.
3- Have you seen the general condition of the house and repairs? It's horrible.
4- Did you see the furniture in the house? Cheap furniture from Ikea seems luxurious compared to what is in Nojiko's home.
I hope now your questions will disappear.

 

[Doomyk]

Hell, even trolls can be useful. Nika mentioned to Nami about moving to this house. However, the time frame is unknown, when exactly they moved. I definitely forgot the flashbacks with Summer, but is this the same house or a different one?

 

[AlexFXR]

Uh i think you misunderstood me, i didn't told you to donate to him if you don't want to, i offered you his Patreon as a way of communication in case you already donate to him so you can ask him about Noji's financial situation.

You're right. Apparently I misunderstood you. I thought you were suggesting that I give money to Ocean so that I could ask him my question.

 

[John972]

This discussion is ongoing so I'm just ask shamelessly. Is the house Nika live rented? Or Nojiko owns it.

The money is on the land deed if the house is old and battered don't matter.

There is no direct answer about ownership/renting. There is no mention of renting or a landlord, even during the Ch 5 infestation fiasco.

The MC says he wants to "...help Nojiko with the money aspect," and it's often implied that money is tight. However, it's not explained where most of Nojiko's salary goes (rent/mortgage/loans/tuition fees?).

Some people interpret the house as "battered" or rundown because it isn't a modern build. It appears renovated inside (kitchen/bathroom).

 

[Bombmaster]

There is no direct answer about ownership/renting. There is no mention of renting or a landlord, even during the Ch 5 infestation fiasco.

The MC says he wants to "...help Nojiko with the money aspect," and it's often implied that money is tight. However, it's not explained where most of Nojiko's salary goes (rent/mortgage/loans/tuition fees?).

Some people interpret the house as "battered" or rundown because it isn't a modern build. It appears renovated inside (kitchen/bathroom).

Thanks, always interpreted this bits about money being short more about having low disposable income or savings.

I could agree about Nojiko having a good upbringing and now is living paycheck to paycheck.

The story already made clear she is going to probably follow the hypergamy and Marry into money security.

 

[hermit_tr]

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Chapter 2/Chapter 5 - Dev Log #3

Hello,

So... For those that are only interested in the current status of the Full version, all renders have been created. (Still need to go through the queue.)
Which means postwork has started.

Old Chapter 2 had 1150 renders...
I expected around 500-700 renders for the first part of it.
I'm now at 900+ renders. Oops.
I do think I did more than 50% of Chapter 2. (Probably around 65%)
Means: The second part will be done faster. (Comes with Chapter 5 full.)

There are a ton of comparisons down there... I'd normally not show this many previews but... I know that some people won't play the new Chapter 2 (Part 1), so yeah... More previews than usual.

This is the last dev log about the Ch4.5 Full.

2. Amber Treats
I made some changes to the Treats.
Quoting the last WiAB Post:
"I have to make a change to the Treats. It was always meant, to only show previews to the 5$ and above supporters... But I never stuck to it.
I like involving every supporter in actual game news.
From now on, Previews will be for every supporter tier, doesn't matter if they are nudes or not.

But the treats are a bonus for higher tiers. So I will release them for the 10$ tiers and above.
Check the normal Amber previews down below first... Then the Treats.
You can find the NSFW Amber Treats

Next Log's treat will be Nami.

3. Comparisons (All images 4k are in a ZIP file attached below)

Old Bellchen classroom. (After Marla assigns you together.)​

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New​

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Old Bellchen Home
(Warning: DBD Killer #3)​

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Old "Me and the boys."​

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New "Me and the boys... and a girl."​

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Old Vic (Sorry, removed the hug.)​

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New​

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Old Amber #1​

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New Amber #1​

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Old Amber #2​

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New Amber #2​

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Who dis?​

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Old Amber #3​

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New Amber #3​

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(Now check the Amber Treats to see what's beneath.)
There are also quite a few new immersion renders/scenes.​

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Stuff that wasn't in the old CH2.

I expect Chapter 2 Rework to end with 1800-2000 renders after Chapter 5.
I don't know how I managed to almost double the render count... But here we are.

The Full will be out before the next Log.
Then we're approaching Chapter 5... A Chapter that I've been looking forward to for a very long time...

- Ocean

in the "old me/new me" part, is he Oceanlab ?

btw, I just realized that the appearance of Sasha and her bodyguard in ch 5 was taken from here
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Only Sasha's dress model is slightly different

 

[Nurikabe]

I am still not sure why this is an issue, but there are a lot of reasons a physician may not have a lot of disposable income. True, most U.S.-based physicians make a more than adequate income. But it is clear that the author is from Germany, the setting may be intended to be the U.S. or some non-descript neutral place, but the influence of Germany is strong (they call it 'football'). The living conditions in other places are not always easy to determine, especially broken down by occupation.

Physicians have enormous student loans. Many of them have to work for a good amount of time before they pay them off and are able to purchase their own practice. This family has two college-aged kids which is a major expense. And Nojiko raised them on her own, assumedly while going to a university to obtain her medical degree.

Again, I don't see why this matters. The point being made in the story is that the MC and Nami are not at the socioeconomic status of many of their fellow students and love interests. That is all that is necessary in order to enjoy the story as told.