Well, as long as we are happy...That's a really good idea... I just hope people doesn't get it wrong and think that's a nicer name for a mental clinic...Or a weird sect
For high sales
I don't think Nojiko's attitude will ever be different from Patreon's and Steam's present attitude.
The point that her treatment of Mario raises is that she is cruel and capricious. Sure Mario is weak, but she exploits his weakness for her own amusement. While going out with Mario, she undresses in front of Nika to see if she can seduce him, so very capricious and not loyal. Mario is her toy because he is weak, and she views all men as the weaker sex. She simply hasn't someone like Nika who can reject her. Currently this makes Nika a curiosity and someone she can't ignore - but ignoring her charms, he threatens her view of the world.
You both are so exaggerating her tendency to be a dominant. Having power over her partner doesn't necessarily mean she will force him to wear a buttplug 24/7. Mario is weak, he gave her that opportunity and she used it. Just forget about him for a second and pay attention that she told Nami to use her body to her advantage. You might say that's her another manipulation, but that doesn't mean she doesn't believe what she said. She actually seems to be a very transparent person who expresses her real opinion and isn't afraid of a negative reaction. That's one of the things I like about her. I can't remember a single moment when there was any insincerity in her words. If there was, then point it out to me. Regardless, she literally applied her advice to Nami on Nika and failed. She tried to do it again in the scene with Mila, and if Nika was rude to her, she even looked very offended like "I'm teasing you and you don't appreciate it, wtf"
All I'm saying is that I can easily picture her being more submissive as long as she sees herself in charge. To the point where she gives Nika a blowjob and for her it's a subtle form of power that she has over him. I think instead of making her that ultra-dominatrix it would be more accurate to describe her as some kind of femme fatale. She fits that type very well.
Aren't you forgetting that from Vanessa's perspective, Bella approached her, trying to pull her into Bella's intrigue and use her? She realized that fast and played a brainless bimbo to find out more about what Bella's game and goal are and how exactly is she trying to use her. Why the hell should she be honest or even friendly towards people who are trying to use her?
We don't really know what her goal is with the games with the Holgerssons. Maybe she is using Mario, maybe Mario wants to be used? I'm not judging before I have more information.
But she does deceive the people around her with her behaviour. She tried to trick MC too until she realised he was figuring her out. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's a kind of trap from those who are trying to manipulate her (this pattern of behaviour is probably a result of past events related to her mother) and Bella fell into it.
I agree with almost everything you said. But she said that she sees most men as the weaker sex, not all of them. Whether she thinks that Nika is a bug in the system that needs to be fixed I have no idea. It's too early to judge, but we'll see.
Shit, they really got me this time)
Responding together as you both make the same point. I'm not a Bella fan. Bella being deceptive does not make Vanessa's deception any less deceptive. Vanessa could have been honest and still called Bella out, Vanessa could have just not engaged with Bella, there are so many options to not be deceptive. Vanessa leads Bella on because she love mind games. It's not about tit for tat, responding to fire with fire or anything. Ethics is an independant status that we should hold to regardless of anyone else's two-faced antics. All Vanessa's behaviour towards Bella shows is that she like to play deceitful, manipulative games, which is 100% her character throughout the game. At the point that Vanessa meets Bella, how does she know why? We know why, but Vanessa defaults to ...something because she thinks Bella's someone she can leverage, without even knowing (at that point) why Bella's approaching her. If she does know, is she storing the information for future blackmail/leverage? She is not being transparent or sincere in her first interaction with Bella, regardless of Bella's intentions.
Nika would be wise to notice how she treates Mario as being her default mode of behaviour.
I am literally am too old for that kind of gag, even if I was born yesterday apparently....
Funny. Vanessa and Bella are a couple. They work together. And Vanessa is in charge. Vanessa's target is not Mario, but Stefan himself. Vanessa plans to seduce him. When Amber gets ready to go visit the Holgersons, Bella is not angry because Stefan might seduce Amber. She is worried that when Amber sees Vanessa, she will understand what is happening and will interfere with Vanessa. Vanessa is at a level where she can say that money is not the main thing. For Vanessa, money is not a goal but a means to achieve goals, and believe me, she is very active and will not go with the flow.Responding together as you both make the same point. I'm not a Bella fan. Bella being deceptive does not make Vanessa's deception any less deceptive. Vanessa could have been honest and still called Bella out, Vanessa could have just not engaged with Bella, there are so many options to not be deceptive. Vanessa leads Bella on because she love mind games. It's not about tit for tat, responding to fire with fire or anything. Ethics is an independant status that we should hold to regardless of anyone else's two-faced antics. All Vanessa's behaviour towards Bella shows is that she like to play deceitful, manipulative games, which is 100% her character throughout the game. At the point that Vanessa meets Bella, how does she know why? We know why, but Vanessa defaults to ...something because she thinks Bella's someone she can leverage, without even knowing (at that point) why Bella's approaching her. If she does know, is she storing the information for future blackmail/leverage? She is not being transparent or sincere in her first interaction with Bella, regardless of Bella's intentions.
Similarly, there is no ethical way to justify how she exploits Mario's affection for her own purposes. She is blueballing him into wearing a buttplug, doesn't matter that she justifies it to herslef by also wearing one. She is manipulating him into doing something he would unlikely choose for himself by withholding sex, implying that if he submits to her antics, he'll get a reward. She's grooming him for her own amusement, while looking down on him. Is that the basis for a healthy, loving relationship? Sure, hold off sex if you're inclinded to treat it as something special, but leveraging it like that, knowing he would be ashamed if it got out (while telling people she's just met, please let it get out she thinks) while dangling a carrot of a reward - she actually cheapens their relationship. Sex becomes transactional, and a reward for how much he endures. And the first moment she meets Nika, she's attempting to seduce him and cheat on weak, faithful Mario, further abusing him. So she dumps Mario to be sincere? Or does she continue being manipulative and deceitful?
Even throwing out the knowledge of Mario's buttplug is a double game. She can test Nika and Nami's integrity to find out what kind of people they are - if rumours spread about Mario, she knows from where. She's a pretty stand up girlfriend
The fact that she is friendly is another misdirection. She knows Noji is important to Nick, so she is the dutiful host. Don't forget that she knows about Bella and Nika, but says "I don't think we share the same social circles" when Nika says he thinks he's seen her before. More misdirection. She triggers Zara to be more competitive towards Nika, then actively bets (the driver's license) against her while knowing what their mom did to Zara, belittling her own sister for the sake of a stranger she's just met - playing games with her sister's mental health.
She applies social darwinism to ther ethics, and that ubermensch mentality is something I despise. Weak people shouldn't be exploited even if we don't like them - or should Vic be exploited like Mario too? Or Damian? How does Nika respond as someone with crippled emotions? He supports Damian to further his own goals (well, baskets), and he has many choices to be kind to Vic, and it seems cruel to me not to take the chance to be supportive.
On the social darwinism, her "I'll never need to work, I'll see where life takes me" attitude also shows she's really entitled, and she's into Mario as a gold digger. Zara still has goals, Vanessa plans to float through life amusing herself at other's expense. If she doesn't go for Mario, does she just sponge of daddy Nick? Her plan for her future is to manipulate people so she can be indolent in her lifestyle.
Nika also doesn't judge Vanessa by what Bella's seen, which is why he calls her to call off interacting with Vanessa, because he realises how manipulative Vanessa is. But I still love this to describe her:
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I am literally am too old for that kind of gag, even if I was born yesterday apparently....
Ayua is checking his penis because they all just got done talking about it in the changing area and they are teenage girls, so it would still be something on the mind because of the subject matter.
This is Ocean's genius. He gives you a simple answer and you accept it. In fact, his simple answer is not always correct. For example, many see Ayua as the daughter of Mira and Willy. In reality this is not the case. But wait and see.
share with us your great knowledge of the family tree of Zane.
Well, you are a cunning one. The game will be made for at least another 27 years.
Ocean has a talent for finding trouble. If everything goes as you say, then just a giant wave of crap will rise.
As I say The simplest answer. Ocean doesn't work that way. The answer may be the most unexpected.
Hmm, I don't know if you can "feel" what a rendered model "feels" because they don't "feel" anything at all. You are the one "feeling" the feels you feel because of the words that were written and your mind + soul putting the words into a feeling you, yourself understands.
A: No, even Kat or Lucas's children would probably call Katie aunt, rather than second aunt. But for a female Zane to be Ayua's mother requires an asian father, which is nowhere visible yet. There are currently two asians in WiaB that we know, so Willi or Lucas would have to be the father with current information to call Katie an aunt, but only Willi if she's a Zane. If Dylan was the father, Katie would be a sister.
I think you meant 'Miru, or her sister'. For Ayua to be Dylan's daughter, Katie would be her sister, not her aunt. The only cases for Ayua to be Katie's niece are adoption, Willi as father with an asian mother or Leia as mother with an asian father. Lucas, Kat or Joe are out as potential parents, as they're not Zane's but whatever name Joe's family goes by: Helen is Zane by marriage, Scarlet is Helen's sister. Or it could be one of those randoms mentioned by Kat at the farm while on the hay, but that's an incredibly long bow to draw (most likely called some form of cousin then?)
