Dessolos

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But I have to be fair/admit, that Nami just rubs me the wrong way. Till now, she is way to annoying for my taste. That may be change with future updates but at this point of the story I straight out can't stand her. Don't ask me why, I will not be able to give you a satisfying answer.
Funny thing is I actually loved Nami for her comedy. But the last update when on the Bella path at least I started to dislike Nami a bit cause of the whole kitchen scene when Bella is over at the MC's house. I get the feeling I'm gonna end up liking her less and less on the Bella path in Season 2
 
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yossa999

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Damn youre really butthurt.

Feel free to ebolarate how and why the removal of the nami jacuzzi scene damaged the story or their relationship progression lol. I miss a few scenes too but this one really isnt it, its such a porn scene with everyone right next to them in the house.
The story was irrecoverable damaged when Marla's gun license was suspended. Now it's just agony. :Kappa:
 

BobTheDuck

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And the reworked/adjusted scene, where the MC and Nami talks about Nick in Nami's room, I think the new one is way better, way more sense, then the previous one, where Nami was topless.
That's the thing for me, once I got over the differences, I felt I cared more about Nami than previously. But I also can understand why people are upset that their main LI has been altered. The changes are mainly affecting Nami after all, more other dialogue changes are minor, and most other cut scenes are like one or two renders. Nami does get far more of her path changed than any of the others.
 

Krytax123

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A lot of very good points! One of the cringiest scenes in this VN was the part in the bar before Bella date where MC explains to Joff why he doesn't tell Nami about the guy hitting on her. Suddenly he's all "I'm doing social experiment" and "I'm big brain behind the curtain, muahahahaha!" and all that crap. That was such a random scene that the first time I got to it I was just blinking and going "huh?" It served no purpose, came out of nowhere, was completely at odds with the entire game before it and with the character and didn't appear again, nor had any influence.
Thats just Nika but he behaves like that all the time, it isnt really a surprise. The whole Holgerson/bella plan is the same thing, he talked to Amber and Bella about it too.

Nika isnt flawless and its kind of a hubris and overconfidence (william is similar) often thinking he's smarter than he really is or simply not having the whole picture. There are multiple times where we can read his thoughts, feels very smart, yet we know this is kinda dumb.

I mean .. look at the date in the restaurant with bella, it doesnt work out ..

But you arent supposed to read that and think "damn he's smart!" his ideas are often kinda crap.
 

Mr_Mister

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Don't bother., These people aren't speaking out of ignorance. They know damn well the amount of content that was cut or changed. They are posturing. Their intent is to shift the narrative and make it flow on this thread as they want it to. In a manner that is more positive to Ocean and the game. Problem is, not everyone is as daft as they think we are.
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PaxHadrian17

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I can't quite put my finger on why, but this scene is one of my favorites. The first time I watched it, it just hit differently. You can sense the first hints of Bella's feelings for the MC. There's nothing overly complex about it - no spectacular animations or anything like that. It's just a few seconds long, but it left a lasting impression on me...
One of the aspects of Ocean's work I appreciate is his use of facial expressions.

I agree - Bella's initial reaction to the MC's injury was Not what you would expect of someone who did not care at all for the MC.

She covered it up pretty quickly and tried to resume a more dispassionate attitude, but her gut reaction was there for all to see.

Sometimes, it is easy to miss the small facial expression changes; I get caught up in reading the dialogue and not paying enough attention to what is happening in the renders, and I will go back to double check and spot the facial expression change or (and this has happened several times) - I suddenly spot one of Sasha's friends appear in the background - not Stalking the MC but close at hand.

Ocean's clever use of easter eggs in the background of various scenes adds to my sense of - there is more going on than I know and I get Damn curious!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

Dessolos

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Sometimes, it is easy to miss the small facial expression changes; I get caught up in reading the dialogue and not paying enough attention to what is happening in the renders, and I will go back to double check and spot the facial expression change
This happened to me when it came to the Bella cinematics my first time I played the game I just played the game. However on my 2nd playthrough I saw Bella in a new light and she passed everyone by a mile in terms of characters I like even ones from other games. Because I paid more attention to her facial expressions and everything else happening in those cinematics. It really felt like there is some subtle detail in those or even a small story within them to tell that is up for personal interpretation. To me those cinematics make Bella feel like one of the most romantic LI ive seen in an AVN even tho her story isn't the most romantic compared to some others.
 

Mr_Mister

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Think you need to add a couple of decades to that year, dude. We sure as hell ain't getting finished season 2 in just 5 years.
Ocean won't be able to finish this vn because even the characters are getting older in real time , so by the end of season 2 they'll look like on their 50's and on season 3 they'll start dying because of old age.
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Vic ep#3 , Vic ep#4 , Vic ep #5
 

Winterstale

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This happened to me when it came to the Bella cinematics my first time I played the game I just played the game. However on my 2nd playthrough I saw Bella in a new light and she passed everyone by a mile in terms of characters I like even ones from other games. Because I paid more attention to her facial expressions and everything else happening in those cinematics. It really felt like there is some subtle detail in those or even a small story within them to tell that is up for personal interpretation. To me those cinematics make Bella feel like one of the most romantic LI ive seen in an AVN even tho her story isn't the most romantic compared to some others.
During my first playthrough, it felt like I missed out on about 70% of the visuals because I was so engrossed in the text. I'm more accustomed to straightforward books without all the rich visual content...

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PaxHadrian17

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Don't bother., These people aren't speaking out of ignorance. They know damn well the amount of content that was cut or changed. They are posturing. Their intent is to shift the narrative and make it flow on this thread as they want it to. In a manner that is more positive to Ocean and the game. Problem is, not everyone is as daft as they think we are.
There is one narrative now - Summers Gone Season 1 - it is what Ocean published on Steam/is releasing on Patreon/SS.

There are multiple perspectives.

Agree with some of those perspectives and not others - that is all good -- Each of us gets to have A perspective and discuss it here on this forum.

Like/dislike the rework done for Steam - that is fine.
Like/dislike the music - that is fine.
Like/dislike the changes from the old, darker version of the MC from 3 years ago - that is fine.

For those who keep pointing out all the things they don't like about Summers Gone - that is fine.

For those who keep pointing out all the things they like about Summers Gone - that is fine.

Agreement/disagreement with the positions of others makes no one daft.

It does mean that there are differences of opinion - that is fine.


There is no F95 Crusader's Award for forcing others to a particular point of view - there is only discussion.


If someone is truly bothered by another's negative opinion of Summers Gone - put them on ignore and move on.

If someone is truly bothered by another's positive opinion of Summers Gone - put them on ignore and move on.

If someone Truly hates what Summers Gone has become - why stay?

Time has value and I know I have left threads/stopped supporting devs when, IMO, the dev/AVN/thread went off the rails and stayed there.

For those who want to keep focusing on what Summers Gone used to be - that is fine.

I'm enjoying Summers Gone Season 1 - what is - and looking forward to Season 2 - what will be - continuing with Ocean's dev log tomorrow.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

Don Sucio

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Pffff, i just finished the season 1... Why most of the character´s lifes are so sad? It really affects me, i started playing it excited and happy but now a part of me is empty (and not only because now we have to wait god knows how much for a new chapter).

I´m not going to lie, i liked it so much, i even left aside Fallout 4 for two days for SG, but is true that i feel that the game without the censorship would be much better, specially in Nami path. Anyway i think Ocean has done a very good job.

I have taken screenshots of some scenes that for reason caught my attention and i have written my thoughts:
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About Sasha i don´t know what to think about her, i want to like her but i find her more difficult than Bella, she is like a rock... I know she has a big trauma and her helping Nika in the book club was nice but i need to know her more for have interest in her.

And Bella´s sister!?!? I thought she was dead or something! I suppose she is in a vegetable state

Now i have some serious doubts about Katie and William being mentioned in the game, i suppose they are the same as in WiaB, but older? It just confuse me.

I don´t know why Nika hasn´t told Bella already that Vanessa is really smart and she could have played her, she is very dangerous

Last but no least important i want Maja proof her fetish on Nika I want all spicys fetishes in the game :devilish:. I even want Zara to punish Nika making him eat her feet if he plays her like a fool again :devilish:
 

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Pffff, i just finished the season 1... Why most of the character´s lifes are so sad? It really affects me, i started playing it excited and happy but now a part of me is empty (and not only because now we have to wait god knows how much for a new chapter).
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