Uriel ☁

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What's going to be the difference between chapter 4 beta and the full chapter 4?
Ch4 full is the rework of Ch1, doubt there'll be some new story content.

Basically after this and the next story update there'll be a new version with the rework of Ch1 (the next one) and Ch2 (after Ch4.5). There're no plans to rework the following chapters.
 

Multi27

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will there be porn in the future? i am completely ok with a slow-burn that takes it's time to actually develop it's characters and relationships, but if there will be none at all, i'm not interested
 
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Go to the compressed * link on the first page
That should bring you to the FAPMaster369 comment about compressed version that has a link to the HOWTO create a MacOS build.
That should be this link



If you can't apply the tutorial to make your own MacOS build, try to ask again here for someone to make one for you.



If you ask her nicely on the proper route, Bella might wear it for you one day...




It's only a few render left to do (less than 200) compare to a whole update (3000+ render+story+coding etc) so it shouldn't take that long. A week or two... end of July max! (I'm not specifying the year for potential lawsuit purposes...)
Thank you! Soo much!
 

Jacey.ci

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will there be porn in the future? i am completely ok with a slow-burn that takes it's time to actually develop it's characters and relationships, but if there will be none at all, i'm not interested
This type of crap is getting annoying.. then just don't play the game and go on the hub. Like fr? This generation is a lost cause man :ROFLMAO:
 

ExDeath730

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I don't know. I've only played reworked version. I like Miru very much. Her personality is very likable. I think she will be my favorite LI.
Ah, sweet summer child. The original Miru was a trainwreck of a LI, i actually don't consider her a LI because of how badly she was writen. The new one, at least from the prologue, seems miles better, but... Believe me, wait for the real best girls of that game to show up before passing judgement. Let's just say that even the reworked Miru is worse than some of the best LIs of that game in the old version.

Agh, I personally hate when that happens XD Not only I (me, I solely, me as a person, just talking about MY personal preferences, don't eat me alive) found Miru the least 'attractive' cause I couldn't like her personality, then I went back to old WIAB and realized that she was plain annoying and her model was the less... physically appealing. Same happened in WVM, you start with a girfrield (who again, I find the most physically unattractive in the game), but you also can't get rid of her or break up with her. In old WIAB there was a point where you could get rid of Miru, but at this point the damage was done: She already did tons of childish things that got MC in trouble, and despite being annoying, I'm a softie who hates to break Miru's heart, even if she's a fictional character and I don't like her that much :p .
Gotta admit new Miru is miles better than the original, but it still sucks that we have to stick with her when I personally (and I assume some others as well) just want a blank slate. However, the story, visuals and music are so good that I still got hooked enough to keep playing and waiting for updates.

Also, on another topic.... SG's reworked scenes look great, but I gotta agree with Bella's change of outfit, gonna miss her casual tee and her shorts.
Me too. It's kind of hilarious how it's always the most annoying character. Regarding WIAB, honestly? To make myself feel better, i basically let her cheat with the ex-boyfriend (like it was hard, basically, if the MC wasn't a sex machine with her, or had balls to cut her antics short, she would fall into another dude's dick. Girl was easier than NTR games female protags), so when one chapter later, i could end things with her, it felt justified (not that the MC knew, she was too much of a coward to actually confess, lol). After that i set my sights on the lawyer, those Alexandra Daddario level eyes were too appealing.

Now, on topic, i'm stoked for how things are going with this game. Even if the update schedule isn't the best, you can see how much better Ocean became as a Writer comparing this game with the old WIAB.
 

Deathcon1000

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First time I have ever commented on this site. I honestly just downloaded this on a whim, never heard of the dev before and the fact that it was tagged with no sex scenes as of chapter 4 actually got me intrigued, so thought I'd give it a go. Need to say this has become the #1 AVN on my list. The storytelling is phenomenal, the women ACTUALLY have personalities which is missing in 90% of the games that are made, there is hours of content already, renders are some of the best I've ever seen as well. The MC is actually an interesting character with his own issues/flaws, and I love that. Even if I don't get any sex scenes in this game for another year, I'm good with that, so long as you keep giving me a great story, with amazing characters. No matter how long it takes you to finish this Ocean, I'll be here ready to download any new updates. If you release on Steam, I'll buy it day one. Keep up the amazing work!!
 

Lorenz1

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Let's just say that even the reworked Miru is worse than some of the best LIs of that game in the old version.
I played the old version. Whom are you talking about? Katie was annoying as fuck and that's pretty much it for developed love interests.
 

Old Man Al

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I played the old version. Whom are you talking about? Katie was annoying as fuck and that's pretty much it for developed love interests.
The asian girl you live with at the beginning, before your family calls, is Miru.

€: Ok, just got that I understood your question wrong. You were asking about whom the interesting LI from your familiy is. No idea, 1. it was too long ago. 2. I didn't find anyone THAT appealing as far as I remember. Aside from looks that is, but that seems to be a mentaly very unhealthy family, which is nothing that I find very appealing to begin with.
 
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Lorenz1

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I have a feeling that this scene was not supposed to be so damn erotic.

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Also, a Zara appreciation post. Cause why the fuck not.
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I am really surprised I am enjoying this character so much. Zara is honestly great. Also, she is bi (or seems to be), so ya know. Bella/Zara/MC seems possible.
 
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Lorenz1

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The cigarettes are her only negative.
She is also a full of mixed signals broke daughter of a whore and an alcoholic, with neurosis regarding things thrown at her and a criminal record. The only thing going for her is her looks. How her mother hadn't roofied and sold her ass so far is beyond me. Like, honestly, she even dresses like a hooker most of the time.

So far as "bad romantic option" go, Mila is the single worst choice. She is going to end up dragging MC into her misery. Only Vanessa is worse, I think.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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She is also a full of mixed signals broke daughter of a whore and an alcoholic, with neurosis regarding things thrown at her and a criminal record. The only thing going for her is her looks. How her mother hadn't roofied and sold her ass so far is beyond me. Like, honestly, she even dresses like a hooker most of the time.

So far as "bad romantic option" go, Mila is the single worst choice. She is going to end up dragging MC into her misery. Only Vanessa is worse, I think.
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Meushi

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Also, a Zara appreciation post. Cause why the fuck not.
Zara is great, now that we've got to know her a bit.

That being said, please put those images in a spoiler. Fifteen full size images in one post is far too many, it kills the page load time, especially on mobile.
The only thing going for her is her looks.
Nonsense, Mila's best feature is she's a lovely, caring person. Being hot is an added bonus. And Jeff will beat the shit out of MC if you mess with her.
 

Lorenz1

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Nonsense, Mila's best feature is she's a lovely, caring person. Being hot is an added bonus. And Jeff will beat the shit out of MC if you mess with her.
Will he also beat the shit out of the court system, pay the fines for her, pay for her apartment to move out, beat up her parents and solve other issues? Cause she is a black hole of misery that MC can't solve, only get sucked into.
 
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Meushi

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She is also a full of mixed signals broke daughter of a whore and an alcoholic, with neurosis regarding things thrown at her and a criminal record.
Will he also beat the shit out of the court system, pay the fines for her, pay for her apartment to move out, beat up her parents and solve other issues? Cause she is a black hole of misery that MC can't solve, only get sucked into.
No need:
Mixed signals - What mixed signals? If you pursue her she's up front about liking the MC but isn't ready to sleep with him. Perfectly normal, they just met. Dressing provocatively and/or being flirty != fuck everyone.
Mila's parents - Immaterial. Soon as she moves out they're a non-issue. There's already a plan to do that by moving into a shared flat. MC isn't expected to pay her bills, they're looking for part-time jobs to pay for it. MC doesn't necessarily have any money either at this point.
Neurosis - Have you not been paying attention, everyone in this game is screwed up? Mila isn't nearly as messed up as Bella for starters.
Criminal record - Mila doesn't have a criminal record. She may or may not have been charged depending on how you play, for something the MC did. Even on the path where she is charged, MC is already working on getting her out of it. I see little chance she'll be convicted, unless there's a future option for the player to throw her under the bus. Even if that happened that'd be player choice, nothing to do with Mila.

Your whole take on her character & situation seems off the mark to me, but you do you.

PS: thanks for putting those images in a spoiler.
 
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I am really surprised I am enjoying this character so much. Zara is honestly great. Also, she is bi (or seems to be), so ya know. Bella/Zara/MC seems possible.
Yeah, I absolutely love this scene when the MC and Nami are about to leave to Vici. Zara is sitting at the table, she is so relaxed after the jacuzzi (although we could say that she is also relaxed at the deeper level because the awkwardness of all this "meet the soon-to-be-stepsiblings" situation is faded away). So, instead of stress she is having a good time, and she is being in the playful mood and even feeling like a flirting a little with the MC. It's so cool that the Ocean is painted the whole picture of the characters feelings and their relations dynamic just with the couple of frames and a little dialogue, it's one of the reasons why SG is the best.
 

fishbrain

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So I finally played the latest. Didn't expect to need a new save but easy enough to run through. It seems like a few scenes/choices were removed like the entire first gym scene and other bits and pieces from previous updates. Overall this game is still way up there for me, but I'm not a big fan of the extended scenes for role playing games or basketball, that just distracts from the story for me. Also I still think most of the cinematics while breathtakingly beautiful are unnecessary. Can't help but wonder how much time would be shaved off updates without those.
 

Old Man Al

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So I finally played the latest. Didn't expect to need a new save but easy enough to run through. It seems like a few scenes/choices were removed like the entire first gym scene and other bits and pieces from previous updates. Overall this game is still way up there for me, but I'm not a big fan of the extended scenes for role playing games or basketball, that just distracts from the story for me. Also I still think most of the cinematics while breathtakingly beautiful are unnecessary. Can't help but wonder how much time would be shaved off updates without those.
That is a retorical question at best, Ocean deems the cinematics necessary to set the mood (it is here where the music is used to the best extend imo)/use them as part of storytelling etc. (and hell he does nail it with them), so they are an important part of the art puzzle that Ocean delivers. Also think of the devotion that Ocean pours in every part, but especially the cinematics. I daresay that without them they would loose a big part of the whole and Oceans work would not stand out the way it does on this site.
 

fishbrain

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That is a retorical question at best, Ocean deems the cinematics necessary to set the mood (it is here where the music is used to the best extend imo)/use them as part of storytelling etc. (and hell he does nail it with them), so they are an important part of the art puzzle that Ocean delivers. Also think of the devotion that Ocean pours in every part, but especially the cinematics. I daresay that without them they would loose a big part of the whole and Oceans work would not stand out the way it does on this site.
I can certainly see both sides of the coin.
 
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