Hahn1900

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I'd really like to know the reason(s) behind this decision. I may be wrong but the way I see it if he'd concentrate on SG alone the updates would come faster, he would then gain more patrons for sure and thus more money for more/better equipment, beneficial to both WiAB and SG. But maybe he's planning on having them interconnect at some point and that might be why... I dunno.
Nah cant imagine that those two games will ever be "merged" or something. They are so different in just everything, besides renderquality.

MAYBE some characters from one game will have a cameo in the other for a short notice... to show that its the same universe (like Melody, DmD, Sunshine Love for example) but i dont think so... wouldnt add anything to the games.

Why Ocean decided to develop both games at the same time? Well i would say... they startet with WIAB, i played the "old" version once, wasnt my thing... than i stumbled over SG and wondered how it can be that the quality is so different... obviously they improved a lot in making renders/animations/cinematics And they startet to remake WIAB completely. To bring it up to the level of SG in technically quality so to speak...

They never intented do drop one game over the other. And i think it has something to do with "not getting bored" it can be very exhausting to write just von VN for many years... Most DEVs just quit at some point, or dont have any ideas anymore. Or are going over to just milk the patreon site with making wallpapers and rather small updates with nearly no progress at all, cause they dont know how to progress their game, have no ideas to finsih it, and no ideas to start a new one... dont know why so many patreons stay behind these DEVs. But well, thats another story...

So i think Ocean makes both games at the same time to stay "inspired" cause both games are so different. The remake of WIAB was necessary cause the "old" game was kinda a mess at some point and the render quality was way behind SG... and i think they want to use the same software and so on for both games to make it easier to create content for both.

and we should not forget... Oceanlab is NOT a one-man-show as far as i know that was the case at the start of WIAB but not anymore.

I think too that if they would focus on one game, to make faster and bigger updates for it, it would lead to more supporters... but maybe not? Maybe its a good strategy too to deliver to very different games to widen the "target group" i dont know.

Maybe they are just to fond of the two games and cant let one go for the other.

Let me say it like this... if the quality of storytelling and overall quality stays high like this, and we at least get an SG update every 7-8 months... well i can live with that.

Just one thing... MAYBE it would be agood idead to cut the fantasy board game sessions way shorter... it was really nice and well made, but lets face it... it was the major part of chapter 4, and i think most people dont care about that, they want content with the actual real characters ^^

In some other games there were some parts like this too, but were a lot shorter, it a nice distraction, and iam fine with it... but not that long please. Was to time consuming.
 

Hahn1900

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Will give this a go, loved Where It All Began (was that ever completed?) so I'll hope we have some content in this story should be good.
It was restarted a while ago, complete rework and new aproach. Will get another update soon...

ITs still not my thing, but overall i like it more that the old one.

WIAB and SG will be developed at the same time.
 
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GeladoFeitan

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So the chapter 3 will not have a remake? i think there some scenes from chapter 3 have the old college stuff(when bella as seeing MC hurt after fighting with sai)
 

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In other news... I really wonder how Chapter 2 is going to be reworked. Everything from Bella's breakdown to Mila's bullying. I wonder how these are all going to be changed. Not to mention Bella and MC breaking into The Holgerson's house and committing theft and vandalism(basically starting their subplot). A lot more things happened in Chapter 2 compared to Chapter 1, so I hope it doesn't take too long to rework it all.

More specifically, I wonder how this scene will play out in the rework. To those on mobile... don't open this spoilerღ
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nosleepx

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I love this game, so far it's one of my most favorite games on here but I feel it could use some more spicy scenes, I think the most sexual scene so far has only been the jacuzzi. I don't think it should turn into just full blown sex scenes every second, there's so many hot characters and has awesome story telling but there are so many moments where at least something (sexual in nature) could have been added, that it feels like a shame that you aren't getting to do literally anything at all, with any of them.

Can't wait for the next chapter, hope it will be a little bit more spicy.
 
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Yvier the Duck

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In other news... I really wonder how Chapter 2 is going to be reworked. Everything from Bella's breakdown to Mila's bullying. I wonder how these are all going to be changed. Not to mention Bella and MC breaking into The Holgerson's house and committing theft and vandalism(basically starting their subplot). A lot more things happened in Chapter 2 compared to Chapter 1, so I hope it doesn't take too long to rework it all.

More specifically, I wonder how this scene will play out in the rework.
Bella's breakdown probably doesn't change a lot, only upgrade Bella and the room but the rest is perfect, and Mila's bullying can be just her and the MC talking outside the cafeteria. My problem is with Victoria. She was a happy crazy girl in chapter 1 and 2 and now in the rework is... realistically normal. I prefer that, of course, old Victoria cringe me a lot, but now is practically a different character, and she needs more work than any of the others FMC in the game. I'm sure Oceans has thought about it and that's why chapter 4.5 and the rework of chapter 2 are coming together, but I'm worry 'cause Victoria can be the most important girl for the MC (not counting Nami), probably because Summer was the other side of the coin, a fatal accident instead, that's why the MC help her in the rehabilitation clinic and why she is the girl Oceans chose to have the same eraser than Summer, but just now is only a hot girl in a game with a lot of hot supermodel girls.
 

Balfurusse

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I dont know about you guys, but i sur liked to see Sasha and Zara romancable... So far i didnt get the difference between Dark and Light side... Will it comes later?
 

EvilMojito77

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So let me get this straight Ocean's reworking ch2 and did already rework ch1 for the steam release? If that's it good for him, he deserves it
 

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I dont know about you guys, but i sur liked to see Sasha and Zara romancable... So far i didnt get the difference between Dark and Light side... Will it comes later?
I think the dark/light side stuff is removed with the rework. At least, as far as I have seen in the walkthrough, it is gone completly from the reworked chapter 1. And as it doesn't play a role in later chapters I guess it will be gone from the reworked chapter 2 as well.

Good thing too imo, there are already enough girl branches in there.
 
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I'm an impatient dude with too much free time atm, so better quickly forget about the game again, otherwise the wait for new content and story progression will be too painful. Beautiful renders, lots of great characters and interesting dates/events already teased. The time it will take until every LI gets their deserved attention. :HideThePain:

Still, this is Maja, Kate and Nojiko appreciation post.
 

nicholas88888

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This is a bit depressing the game looks fantastic but no scenes for three years. I get having a story I prefer it but give me something.
 
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Razrback16

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This is a bit depressing the game looks fantastic but no scenes for three years. I get having a story I prefer it but give me something.
Don't worry, you're not alone. I believe the scenes will come eventually, this game just prioritizes more realistic emotional / relationshp buildup. I'm looking forward to Amber relationship + scenes. :cool:

Hang in there.
 
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jamesonwulf

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Hey, I'm having a problem pertaining the sound in cutscenes and video's in your game.

The sound of cutscenes or videos that have their own audio build in don't play. I can see the the video and hear an intermittent cracking and popping noise but any other sound of the video is silent. I can hear the separate audio of the game like the music tracks or ambiant sounds, but not the one included in the webm file of the cutscene.
I extracted the archives and played the videos on my media player and there the sound was perfectly clear but in game it failed to be audible.

I'm playing your game on windows 7. Any help would be apreciated
 

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Bella's breakdown probably doesn't change a lot, only upgrade Bella and the room but the rest is perfect, and Mila's bullying can be just her and the MC talking outside the cafeteria. My problem is with Victoria. She was a happy crazy girl in chapter 1 and 2 and now in the rework is... realistically normal. I prefer that, of course, old Victoria cringe me a lot, but now is practically a different character, and she needs more work than any of the others FMC in the game. I'm sure Oceans has thought about it and that's why chapter 4.5 and the rework of chapter 2 are coming together, but I'm worry 'cause Victoria can be the most important girl for the MC (not counting Nami), probably because Summer was the other side of the coin, a fatal accident instead, that's why the MC help her in the rehabilitation clinic and why she is the girl Oceans chose to have the same eraser than Summer, but just now is only a hot girl in a game with a lot of hot supermodel girls.
You're right about Vicky, she needs a lot of work. Right now, the personalities she displays in Chapters 1 & 2 are night and day. Her character is a lot more realistic and reacts the way you'd expect someone who just got paralyzed from the waist down to react. I mean it's normal to see people in denial, but she was still frighteningly positive for someone who'd just experienced a life-changing event.

About the most important girl, I think it's more about who you pursue. An argument can be made for Bella, seeing as both she and MC experienced a traumatic event when they were younger(that made them develop so many issues down the line), and like MC's said in the last update, they aren't two pieces of the same puzzle, they're the same piece. So far, Bella organically fits the best with the MC. She's also a better fit for him than any other girl(at least from what we've seen so far... still super early in the story). By the way, Bella's breakdown can change a lot. In which ways? We don't know. The rework of Chapter 1 changed her a lot, and she wasn't even given that much screentime. Chapter 2's different because she's basically in our face for most of the chapter.
 
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The moment I saw that DnD (D&D? Whichever people use)-esque RPG (Roleplaying Game) gun, my immediate thought was:
That's a compensation gun!
 
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