RNasc4444

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Returning to AVN, now three of the rather popular AVNs that I am following are in the process of reworking the initial chapters. These AVN developers are complete incompetents. :cautious:
Depends. Are they simple visual updates? Are they a remaster with minor tweaks to improve the narrative without changing it? Or are they "Ocean Reworks" that do a complete 180 on the characters and story?
What can I say, wander around the bazaar, look at the prices, maybe you will find something cheaper and better than Ocean's. :KEK:
Better is easy. Cheaper? Can it get cheaper than free?
I'm down if Ocean is willing to pay me to play his games :LOL:
 
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dameromexxx

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While I can't say that you don't have reason to think so, you very much do, I really hope Ocean moves on. Please smoothing sailing from here on out. I really like but if he keeping add and cutting stuff it will kill the game for me. So maybe I am being naive, but I am hoping for the best.
I think the time it takes to do all this is the biggest problem. How not to overthink or overanalyze how to block new inspiration how not to get new ideas when you have access to new technological toys that you didn't have before. As he claims he wrote the whole story but producing it in a dull and mechanical way for over 10 years is a simple recipe for turning your life into a joyless festival of grindness and numbness.
It's a bit like the curse of being a psychic like Alice from Zero End when you know every move you make for the next dozen or so years you will burn out very quickly and lose the desire to continue

Let's start with the fact that the biggest mistake was made at the very beginning the very concept of making 5 games creating one universe over the course of over 20 years is pure madness for a single developer if Ocean Lab was a collaborative project created by four artists called Atlantic, Pacific. Indian and Arctic sharing one studio each creating their own game and sharing ideas with each other, then we can say that we are heading towards our goal, in our situation we can only hope that our crazy journey into the unknown will be a joyride
 
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Joan6969

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We are optimistic. I would add one month to each.

WiaB 2025/04
SG 2025/06

Maybe the workstation will speed up the process, but I think that is only natural for Ocean spend a few days playing with it.
Just one month huh? Yeah.....well your best bet is to not put a date on anything from this Dev.
Nothing against the man I love his work. But never go by any dates from him
or anyone else. You will be disappointed if you do. I'm just going by history....and
I just know I'm gonna hear...."but work-station!" lol!:rolleyes:
 
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Penfold Mole

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Is "SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip" not the main file? I have no idea but you can;t extract it with the regular unzip utility on Arch Linux at least.

Path = SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Type = zip
Physical Size = 10361821024
64-bit = +
Characteristics = Zip64

I guess the unzip command can't touch a zip64 file, I've just never come across it before.

$ unzip SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Archive: SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
warning [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: 6066496255 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
(attempting to process anyway)
error [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: start of central directory not found;
zipfile corrupt.
(please check that you have transferred or created the zipfile in the
appropriate BINARY mode and that you have compiled UnZip properly)

Strange you say the Ubuntu one works, because I have the exact same version on Arch and it shits itself. Humm.
It is the main file, I just wasn't sure you were talking about this file and not about something else. We have a whole bunch of other files also in the OP and elsewhere posted in the thread. You didn't specify what were you talking about.

I'm not sure any more where I downloaded the file, was it the MEGA link or GOFILE, but they should be identical and the file hash is

$ sha256sum "SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip"
10b200326c09d339216fff7677650637eb841dab4d8511591a710287babf68e6 SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip


What's yours? We have to make sure we have the same file and that yours isn't a broken partial download.
Also, I didn't get any error messages from unzip while extracting it.
 
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AlexFXR

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As he claims he wrote the whole story but producing it in a dull and mechanical way for over 10 years is a simple recipe for turning your life into a joyless festival of grindness and numbness.
There is a good cure for this, you need to go to work in a supermarket as a salesperson or a loader for a low salary. I am sure that in less than a month he will be cured and will want to run away. :KEK:

Let's start with the fact that the biggest mistake was made at the very beginning the very concept of making 5 games creating one universe over the course of over 20 years is pure madness for a single developer if Ocean Lab was a collaborative project created by four artists called Atlantic, Pacific.
You've greatly underestimated the timeframe. I recently read a Patreon discussion about the appearance of sex scenes in SG. They calculated that for the MC to have sex with all the characters at least once, it would take about 10 years of development. If you add the relationship with LI, you can easily add another 10-15 years, and that's not counting the main plot of the game. It turns out that it will take about 25 years to finish SG, and that's 1 game out of 5 in the Ocean's universe. So you're right, it's not realistic to create 5 games for Ocean or any other developer, to be honest, many doubt that with the current pace of development, Ocean will be able to finish SG. Such development times are not encouraging.
 

dameromexxx

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There is a good cure for this, you need to go to work in a supermarket as a salesperson or a loader for a low salary. I am sure that in less than a month he will be cured and will want to run away
I know about it but I'm more trying to understand why it takes so long and why so many changes

Ocean has an imagination that allowed him to write a very long story in the form of a script. To realize it in the form of AVN it takes many years. So he starts creating it chapter by chapter the same imagination that allowed him to write the whole thing forces him to constantly introduce corrections to look for more optimal or natural looking solutions he is not able to maintain a fast pace producing renders in a mechanical way to an existing script leaving it intact many players are tired of having to adapt to the introduced changes additionally very long development time is still getting longer and longer.

The production of this game is a vicious circle that causes the time needed to complete it to get longer and longer. Ocean is like a doggy chasing its own tail.

It's easier to make changes to AVN when your target time to finish is 4-5 years even if it slows you down by a year or two you'll still make it SG is simply too long to mess around too much

Generally, I am not against searching and trying to constantly improve something, but in this case, each change introduced gradually reduces the chances of completing this story
 

Landro2340

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They calculated that for the MC to have sex with all the characters at least once, it would take about 10 years of development.
If Ocean doesn't let me do this to Mila in Season 2:

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I will personally go to Germany and begin the Ocean Stalker arc which will create even more delays, you hearing it here first folks.
 
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