Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0-wip.5791] [Kompas Productions]

[mattius77]

is there any point in even playing this game? what's the point when we literally have less content now than we did a year or so ago. aren't we just better off playing on the older builds?

For my purposes I considered the game more or less 'complete' once MC uncovered the mystery of his father's death.

All that stuff about school and the prom and the dating system and pregnancy.....I found it all kind of silly, but to each their own. So yes, for my purposes the game was done at the point when DC started this tech update stuff. There were a handful of female characters that MC might have been able to get with that he hadn't yet (at least not fully), but they screamed "DLC". I found the game somewhere around v0.12 iirc, it would be interesting for someone else to look at the changelog and see how much there was at v0.12 and compare it to how much of the game has been reworked to date in the tech update. Is he keeping pace with his own rate that he put out new content when he was inventing it out of whole cloth?

 

[McSlut]

i wonder if anyone has asked DC if he knows that if he keeps going at the current pace the tech update will take another 5 years or so at least and what his response would be

think about it, he said he will finish debbie in 2 months and it will take him a year probably but only if he can finish everything with the next update which isn't even a sure thing

like does he think he can speed up development someday, that was his original promise with the tech update right?

 

[neub1i]

i wonder if anyone has asked DC if he knows that if he keeps going at the current pace the tech update will take another 5 years or so at least and what his response would be

think about it, he said he will finish debbie in 2 months and it will take him a year probably but only if he can finish everything with the next update which isn't even a sure thing

like does he think he can speed up development someday, that was his original promise with the tech update right?

whatever this guy says he will do, he wont. he said that the debbie arc would be finished and released in the january update. there has been now an additional update after that and it's still not even close to being finished.

there is so much unfinished material, from teachers, Roxxy, Eve, Diane, main story, pizza and car shop, bank, beach and so on, that it's save to assume that by the pace he is going right now it probably will take him until late 2026 if not deep into 2027.

Forget this guy and this game. Stop following it. Stop supporting it. Return in a couple years and maybe have a complete updated game with some extra scenes who arent actually worth it, based on those "extra" scenes he has put in the game so far.

Whatever he says, is complete crap. Dont trust this guy. He is a scammer.

 

[Count Morado]

like does he think he can speed up development someday, that was his original promise with the tech update right?

No. It wasn't. You know it wasn't.

It was not. There are many goals for the tech-update, but adding content was not the prime reason. People made that assumption because code revisions would -hopefully- make the code more efficient and less of a mess to work with for future updates.

Spoiler: Original Goals of the Tech Update

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Forget this guy and this game. Stop following it. Stop supporting it

Best response.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

i wonder if anyone has asked DC if he knows that if he keeps going at the current pace the tech update will take another 5 years or so at least and what his response would be

think about it, he said he will finish debbie in 2 months and it will take him a year probably but only if he can finish everything with the next update which isn't even a sure thing

like does he think he can speed up development someday, that was his original promise with the tech update right?

Why don't you ask him? Be the change you want to see, instead of asking others to do the work for you.

 

[Ts3qc6vxccMYZzonphTE]

i wonder if anyone has asked DC if he knows that if he keeps going at the current pace the tech update will take another 5 years or so at least and what his response would be

think about it, he said he will finish debbie in 2 months and it will take him a year probably but only if he can finish everything with the next update which isn't even a sure thing

like does he think he can speed up development someday, that was his original promise with the tech update right?

my man does not give a fuck hes just treating the game as a cash cow and i dont blame him retards keep paying for literally nothing

 

[Count Morado]

my man does not give a fuck hes just treating the game as a cash cow and i dont blame him retards keep paying for literally nothing

And without those subscribers, DarkCookie would still have to work for other people and only spend free time working on Summertime Saga, with maybe 1 other person (Sploosh) helping him. There wouldn't be a v0.20.16. it would still be back at v0.15.0 or some such.
So instead of insulting the subscribers by projecting your entitled insecurities, perhaps you should consider thanking them for subscribing... Or not saying anything at all.

And I say this as a person who has never subscribed to any adult game dev.

 

[neub1i]

And without those subscribers, DarkCookie would still have to work for other people and only spend free time working on Summertime Saga, with maybe 1 other person (Sploosh) helping him. There wouldn't be a v0.20.16. it would still be back at v0.15.0 or some such.
So instead of insulting the subscribers by projecting your entitled insecurities, perhaps you should consider thanking them for subscribing... Or not saying anything at all.

And I say this as a person who has never subscribed to any adult game dev.

it seems to me that you have more respect for those subscribers than DC has.

 

[Count Morado]

it seems to me that you have more respect for those subscribers than DC has.

Naw. It's just that I comprehend their role in our ability to have adult games in development.

Hell I haven't even played an adult game for a couple of months and I only follow a handful. There are people here who play adult games several hours per day and follow well over 100. If there are no subscribers, then there are much fewer games for the coomers and gooners.

 

[McSlut]

Why don't you ask him? Be the change you want to see, instead of asking others to do the work for you.

i don't care enough anymore tbh but i thought maybe somebody else asked him this already

 

[neub1i]

Naw. It's just that I comprehend their role in our ability to have adult games in development.

Hell I haven't even played an adult game for a couple of months and I only follow a handful. There are people here who play adult games several hours per day and follow well over 100. If there are no subscribers, then there are much fewer games for the coomers and gooners.

following and games that get continous updates are two different things. I know 4 games out of the wincest area that get updates right now... AWAM, summertimesaga, straitened times, and symphony of the serpent.

any other game is either abandoned, finished, or the developer is a one man show releasing some 0.0001 version every 4 months excusing himself that he doesnt do much and he sorry to his subscribers.

There might be other games without the wincest, those exist, dont interest me though.

So what i am saying, there are literally only 4 games right now worth mentioning of having a decent development structure, while also a subscriber base that one could say they are living off that income.

With that said, it's quite a joke when developers, or lets keep the topic at Summertime saga, it's a joke when DC has a decent income, has a team of people working on this game, promises update goals, not even what we expect, what he promises, and not slightly misses that goal, he flat out underperforms that one might actually sit here and ask him, WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THE PAST HALF A YEAR?

one might argue that the game is for free and no one has to give him money, but wherever i go, here, reddit, doesnt matter, no one is happy with this development, except the lone 20 circle jerking in his discord and stream, glazing the guy on a daily basis.

The subscribers are his boss. they expect a product. and i honestly believe most subscribers forgot they even pay this guy on a monthly basis. Imagine paying 1$ or 5$ a month, A FUCKING MONTH, for a game that hasnt changed since 2022. literally. Dont come at me with the tech update. Thats like paying 5$ a month for Starcraft 2, while in comparison, sc2 has much more to offer as a game, than STS will ever do because lets face it, once you played through it, it's over.

 

[Count Morado]

The subscribers are his boss. they expect a product.

You posted a wall, but the key point here is that you are completely wrong with this statement.

They are not his boss. Patreon is very clear the role of subscribers - they are fans who like what a creator is doing and like their vision. As such they are welcome to support the creator in their endeavors through subscriptions. In return for their subscriptions, creators may offer benefits such as discord access and roles, private stream access and/or other offers. some creators include their game as a benefit. Dark cookie doesn not and never has. DC makes the game available for free for anytime to download.

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If a subscriber to DC expects the game or certain content or certain release schedules, they have fooled themselves... Not DC

 

[PayneToTheMax]

i don't care enough anymore tbh but i thought maybe somebody else asked him this already

Doesn't look it. It all depends on how impacted these people are by their payments. But hey, maybe Trump's tariffs are gonna make people consider blowing money on less necessary services, if day to day shit that actually gets imported will see a pretty huge price hike.

 

[ajankia]

Please finish this game and start a new project, it been soo many years

 

[Count Morado]

Please finish this game and start a new project, it been soo many years

See:

Since DC himself said he never wants to "complete" it, always adding more and more, it's accurate to say the game will never be finished.

 

[GhostOf0nyx22]

Wait, when did they remove Diane's story ? Is this a glitch ?

 

[txe320]

Wait, when did they remove Diane's story ? Is this a glitch ?

No. Remake.

 

[gam2000]

Love how the garden minigame has been added but being paid for it, which happened to be the whole point in anyone bothering to do it, is still not there. Oh it shows you earned X amount for the task but it never credits that amount to your money at all. If that is broken then why waste my time wit the rest of the crap update at all. I will check back again in 8 years. Maybe by then he will have most of the First part of the story actually added in. This game now is the worst one out there. Its on a lower bar than the Bad Bobby games.

Actually, you can get paid, although, at this point you don't need the money, unless you want numerous GFEs with Jenny.
So, after you clean the garden, you can click on Diane and ask her for your accumulated wages and she will pay you.

 

[LordEmping]

following and games that get continous updates are two different things. I know 4 games out of the wincest area that get updates right now... AWAM, summertimesaga, straitened times, and symphony of the serpent.

Corection symphony of serpent not wincest tho

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

Corection symphony of serpent not wincest tho

Na, it is when the Patch drops. Usually the Patch in Lust Epidemic and Treasure of Nadia was updated nearly every Update but since Genesis Order, the Patch Makers just wait a couple of updates or until the game is completed to drop the Incest Patch.
NLT himself relies on Patreon and Incest is not allowed there.