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each update he adds less content wtf? i remember debbie having bunch of scenes but now barely anything whats going on with this game?
I think it might have something to do with the patreon rules. I read online that incest is now banned on patreon. That is, if the game production team dare to add incest to the game, their patreon account will be banned and they will not receive sponsorship money. Of course, this is just a rumor, but there are a lot of ways to get support without patreon …………
 
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each update he adds less content wtf? i remember debbie having bunch of scenes but now barely anything whats going on with this game?
But based on what they've seen on this patreon post, there's been a lot of change within their game production team, and it seems they're using AI to make cg scenes for their games now. Taking past abandoned games as the wrong reference object, it is likely that this game will follow in their footsteps, if the sponsorship chain has a slight problem ………… Of course, this is purely a personal opinion, I have sponsored before, but not since version 20.16... Because that's when things started going wrong with the production crew
 

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But based on what they've seen on this patreon post, there's been a lot of change within their game production team, and it seems they're using AI to make cg scenes for their games now. Taking past abandoned games as the wrong reference object, it is likely that this game will follow in their footsteps, if the sponsorship chain has a slight problem ………… Of course, this is purely a personal opinion, I have sponsored before, but not since version 20.16... Because that's when things started going wrong with the production crew
Considering we just had a screenshot of DC autistically draw the entrance of another place in the mall, I think your AI assumption is pretty null and void. Almost like you're purposefully lying. Really gets the noggin' joggin'.
 
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I think it might have something to do with the patreon rules. I read online that incest is now banned on patreon. That is, if the game production team dare to add incest to the game, their patreon account will be banned and they will not receive sponsorship money. Of course, this is just a rumor, but there are a lot of ways to get support without patreon …………
The whole incest stuff was years ago.. that's why landlady/tenant trend exists now.. What he meant with his question is that last update felt a lot smaller than the previous one.. and tbh, he's right. I don't know what's going on, but DC fails all the things he's set out to do.. Teachers? For some reason not all of them.. Debbie? what? 6months still not done?
But based on what they've seen on this patreon post, there's been a lot of change within their game production team, and it seems they're using AI to make cg scenes for their games now. Taking past abandoned games as the wrong reference object, it is likely that this game will follow in their footsteps, if the sponsorship chain has a slight problem ………… Of course, this is purely a personal opinion, I have sponsored before, but not since version 20.16... Because that's when things started going wrong with the production crew
Where did that AI stuff came from? I've been in one of his streams, he talked about AI as a tool, yes, but in a way to use assets already provided and touch up from a human in the end. Never seen anyone talking about stuff being drawn by AI for DC himself.

You're like a dude in a bad watching a football game talking shit players are bad and you could do better while clearly talking out of your arse
 

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The whole incest stuff was years ago.. that's why landlady/tenant trend exists now.. What he meant with his question is that last update felt a lot smaller than the previous one.. and tbh, he's right. I don't know what's going on, but DC fails all the things he's set out to do.. Teachers? For some reason not all of them.. Debbie? what? 6months still not done?
As I recall there was something recently about DC rewriting the story to go from the "*wink-wink*-Landlady-and-Roommate-but-you-know-what-I-mean" to turning them into an actual landlady and roommate, with no incest insinuated. Might be mistaken though.
 

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As I recall there was something recently about DC rewriting the story to go from the "*wink-wink*-Landlady-and-Roommate-but-you-know-what-I-mean" to turning them into an actual landlady and roommate, with no incest insinuated. Might be mistaken though.
You are mistaken, though based upon the way you are wording your comment... I could be mistaken.

What I do know is that as late as last fall, they talked about how they have always been cognizant of the script so that at some point should they take the game off Patreon, it would easy to revert relationships. That hasn't changed.

I don't actually watch the streams, but it was said in the same stream where DC and the team said that Debbie would be the focus of the updates until her story arc and art was brought up to date. Looking at my past comments, that discussion happened 16 September 2024.

Of course, we are aware that even the thought of removing Summmertime Saga off Patreon is over a decade away.
 
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The whole incest stuff was years ago.. that's why landlady/tenant trend exists now.. What he meant with his question is that last update felt a lot smaller than the previous one.. and tbh, he's right. I don't know what's going on, but DC fails all the things he's set out to do.. Teachers? For some reason not all of them.. Debbie? what? 6months still not done?
There's a few reasons.

What I call the "code team" have improved in the preview tech update era (there's no longer a 1-2 month delay between DC drawing something new, and posing it and putting it into game updates now), but they're still painfully ineffective.

However, art really is the bottleneck now. DC just doesn't draw enough in the two month periods. He does draw off stream, but likely not anywhere near as much as he should, and he shows little motivation to kick it into a higher gear. Add to the fact that this cycle DC got caught up in drawing "continuity" scenes (e.g. if Jenny is pregnant when DC gets knocked out by the mob, she'll show up in appropriate look), of which there were several of these.

It's funny, DC used to say "art is the bottleneck" frequently back in the day. Make no mistake, it was a bottleneck, but his code team was awful, and he was just using it as a way to deflect from them and the idea he needed to hire more help. Now that it is far more the bottleneck, Mr. "I spent over a year drawing 16:9 backgrounds for locations that won't be used for the next 5 years" doesn't mention it so much anymore.

As I recall there was something recently about DC rewriting the story to go from the "*wink-wink*-Landlady-and-Roommate-but-you-know-what-I-mean" to turning them into an actual landlady and roommate, with no incest insinuated. Might be mistaken though.
It was one of his co-developers who sort of mentioned something like that. To be honest, having played this update, this is actually far more *wink wink* than the prior one. Honestly, the incest patchers have likely had a far easier time than they imagined, with many instances of just swapping out "landlady" for "mom/mother" and it flowing perfectly. I have no idea if they changed their mind, or if he was on one.
 

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Just saw this:
Seems that maybe AI will be able to solve DC's bottleneck
It's his enjoyment of drawing for this game is what keeps him going, it appears. Using AI would remove some of what he enjoys the most. You know what happens when a person isn't allowed to do what they love? They stop and go find something that allows them to do what they love.
 

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Where did that AI stuff came from? I've been in one of his streams, he talked about AI as a tool, yes, but in a way to use assets already provided and touch up from a human in the end. Never seen anyone talking about stuff being drawn by AI for DC himself.

You're like a dude in a bad watching a football game talking shit players are bad and you could do better while clearly talking out of your arse
People making up shit on the internet? Say it ain't so!
 

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it would be great if AI finally gets to the point that we can just upload the game and add and influence it ourselves. I was told in movies that once AI gets connected to the internet it becomes Jarvis in the matter of seconds. it's been years and still it only produces the most mundane pictures.
 
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