Jonathan Y

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Everyone being a superhuman is boring, the stakes and tension gets less. If Mia, Emily etc become superhumans then where's the "humanity" left? It would be far more interesting from a readers and storyteller perspective if not everyone has a superpower. Imagine how much more tension there is if someone breaches Mia Lishi's lab that is mixed with support superhumans and regular humans? The immediate increase of tension. How will they survive? Have they laid out any traps? Will there be a cool scene like when Alice attacked Kenny? I mean just imagine it from this too, how fucking cool would it not be to have a Guts human hunting monsters with developed human technology? Michael filled that role for a while and it was fucking EPIC.


About Jake putting in that command, its highly likely that its broken considering MC is now a very strong tier 3 and the difference between tier 2 & 3 is immeasurable.
Oh man now that you mention it. Michael's fights were the absolute peak in the series for me, maybe it also reminded me of Berserk so that's why, but him going toe-to-toe with a superhuman and a monster was so hype to watch.
The story has to progress, I get that, but ever since he got his powers I doubt his fights will be as entertaining to read as those two were when he was still a human.

I'm also afraid in the future, we might be headed to where fights are in the same vein as Sylla vs Indra, way over the top abilities, massive explosions of power, fulll Dragonball style stuff which I just don't find as fun to watch/read.
Part of the reason I hope Bernhardt, Malik, and Bendrix will get clapped, I just feel that after a certain power level is reached, fights become boring and unimaginative.
 

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Oh man now that you mention it. Michael's fights were the absolute peak in the series for me, maybe it also reminded me of Berserk so that's why, but him going toe-to-toe with a superhuman and a monster was so hype to watch.
The story has to progress, I get that, but ever since he got his powers I doubt his fights will be as entertaining to read as those two were when he was still a human.

I'm also afraid in the future, we might be headed to where fights are in the same vein as Sylla vs Indra, way over the top abilities, massive explosions of power, fulll Dragonball style stuff which I just don't find as fun to watch/read.
Part of the reason I hope Bernhardt, Malik, and Bendrix will get clapped, I just feel that after a certain power level is reached, fights become boring and unimaginative.
I don't exactly think we're going to become universe busting characters throwing suns and planets at our opponents (even if technically we might be strong enough to be able to), because the narrative is so constrained to Earth. In addition, our powers don't really lend themselves to big anime explosions. Sylla's powers will likely be mostly out of our reach, as she is a purespawn whereas we are half and half. From what I'm seeing, the MC seems to be taking the path of being like a nexus for everyone, at least in a non-Corruption route, whereby he can leverage the connections he forms with his friends to reach new heights. Things will likely get significantly more extreme in terms of scale though, Class A monsters are where we start talking about things nukes can't really deal with, so we'd be reaching city level feats. Luckily, anything significantly above that is just hax, not raw power.
 

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Oh man now that you mention it. Michael's fights were the absolute peak in the series for me, maybe it also reminded me of Berserk so that's why, but him going toe-to-toe with a superhuman and a monster was so hype to watch.
The story has to progress, I get that, but ever since he got his powers I doubt his fights will be as entertaining to read as those two were when he was still a human.

I'm also afraid in the future, we might be headed to where fights are in the same vein as Sylla vs Indra, way over the top abilities, massive explosions of power, fulll Dragonball style stuff which I just don't find as fun to watch/read.
Part of the reason I hope Bernhardt, Malik, and Bendrix will get clapped, I just feel that after a certain power level is reached, fights become boring and unimaginative.
I dont got anything against people progressing, i got something against everyone become broken like some boring shounen. We need a hierarchy of strength within our squad and everyone becoming a tier 5 superhuman is boring asf.
 
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obibobi

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I dont got anything against people progressing, i got something against everyone become broken like some boring shounen. We need a hierarchy of strength within our squad and everyone becoming a tier 5 superhuman is boring asf.
I don't see any of them catching up with the MC outside of a unique plot development, but that will probably be singular, everyone else will be some degree behind.

The mentioned and showed that not all powers are suited for direct confrontation, so someone like Claudia or Emily, if they get turned can still be relevant, but just not on the action side of things. Emily's really fallen by the wayside despite being one of the poster girls and if she is turned, I do hope her focus is non-combat.
 

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a >92% compression rate :oops::oops:
also, i kindly request that superhuman meme with the "you" "that gay shit" miss me with that shit pls
 

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I don't see any of them catching up with the MC outside of a unique plot development, but that will probably be singular, everyone else will be some degree behind.

The mentioned and showed that not all powers are suited for direct confrontation, so someone like Claudia or Emily, if they get turned can still be relevant, but just not on the action side of things. Emily's really fallen by the wayside despite being one of the poster girls and if she is turned, I do hope her focus is non-combat.
I'm just hoping WW finally gives us a muscle girl, or a girl who looks visibly toned or buff. It's a weird bit of dimorphism, where the male superhumans become these absolutely shredded and tall Greek figures, while female superhumans barely change, if at all. The only thing that seems to change is their tit size increasing.
 

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I'm just hoping WW finally gives us a muscle girl, or a girl who looks visibly toned or buff. It's a weird bit of dimorphism, where the male superhumans become these absolutely shredded and tall Greek figures, while female superhumans barely change, if at all. The only thing that seems to change is their tit size increasing.
Well there's Clover, there is that H.E.R.O chick who is a spawn of Goliath and lost an arm against Eisheth ( forgot her name ), and the new monster girl who tried to kill Alice is also pretty muscular.
 

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I'm just hoping WW finally gives us a muscle girl, or a girl who looks visibly toned or buff. It's a weird bit of dimorphism, where the male superhumans become these absolutely shredded and tall Greek figures, while female superhumans barely change, if at all. The only thing that seems to change is their tit size increasing.
That's not weird at all, the female greek figure of a goddess isn't shredded, the archetypical female superhero isn't shredded. They are idealized humans, men are buff, women are sexier. Muscle women, same as Demi's shorty appearance, are niche in appeal.
 

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I'm just hoping WW finally gives us a muscle girl, or a girl who looks visibly toned or buff. It's a weird bit of dimorphism, where the male superhumans become these absolutely shredded and tall Greek figures, while female superhumans barely change, if at all. The only thing that seems to change is their tit size increasing.
He did but dodn't forget muscle women are Michael's type so, conflict of interest
 

obibobi

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Do you think Mc will be able to weild all power by the end?
I hope not and it sticks within his powerset, it's not as if an upgraded version of his powerset will not be very impressive, look at some of the things Ella and his Mom could pull off.

The MC also joked that maybe he will get to a point where he can devour the world, possible foreshadowing for one of the more darker endings.
 

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He probs will wield everything at some point, same could be said for creation as a whole. The thing is if he is at say level 5, he will be able to wield it at say level 3 ish, only at the level of someone he can rofl stomp generally or easily enough at least. But in the hypothetical if he gets creative he can make disgusting combos to compensate for the lack of power, this is where skill, being smart and cooperation come into play. Otherwise he just gets outclassed by sheer power by whatever his equivalent on other elements like Fantasy or Destruction. So him at level 4 would be able to combo a bunch of level 2 into a coherent chimera strategy/ability of sorts.

Of course this is just speculation based on how copy abilities are usually treated in media, it is either not balanced cough Yuta in JJK or it is there but does not matter all that much for some reason or another such as the case of Kurapika, could had just as well won through conjuration alone theoretically and he still sucks at the other nen domains anyway so his Emperor time is not that overwhelming. Used the nen reference to highlight that sometimes it is better to just stick at what you are good at rather than spread yourself too thin. Either way he needs to basically ask mommy Aglaeicwif how to mind rape in the mind world or something similar, throw in a sex scene plox since he wont fuck his own mom.
 
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Xanthe did say that in order to use other monsters' abilities instead of just their body parts he would need to transform his own energy or life force, which would weaken him. I think what he meant by that was that his ability to transform is a result of the energy currently flowing through his veins, but that energy is also responsible for his regeneration, it's not like he has two different sources of power for his Memory and Body abilities. However, to use other abilities he would either need to spend some of his energy to transform the energy to his chosen monster or superhuman, and if that transformation is permanent, he would lose some power permanently for his regeneration, shape-shifting and memory abilities. What this means is that his total amount of power would not decrease, but it would be divided and the monster energy he can use for his shapeshifting cannot be used for his other abilities. As a result, he would need more power in total to have the same amount of monster energy available for shapeshifting before his transformation. For example, let's say the Mc has 600 monster power, he transforms 100 of that power to Valravn's darkness. The Mc still has 600 power, but he can only use his 500 power for shape shifting before he runs out. As a result, the MC's shape shifting powers have weakened despite his total monster power pool not changing at all.

However, if the ability to transform his energy and use other abilities is temporary like the Silats, then he will be burning through far more power than before, because he will need to constantly spend energy on it like his other transformations, and his efficiency will take a nosedive. Unlike Michael, the Mc doesn't have any rapid direct methods of recovering his energy, his digestion might be fast, but it wasn't instant in the Cole fight, when Deryl fed him.
 

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Took a while to to play this update. But here are some thoughts:

1) Micheal is obviously the MVP this update. We got to learn so much about him. Kinda sad that even this friendship is a means to an end to gather strength for him. But the story seems to heavily implying that he will find true strength when he finally understands the true meaning of friendship. Bro is actually top five characters in the game. Also perspective changing to him at the end actually gave me chills.
Like I'm pretty sure all of the exact things i was complaining about in this thread about Micheal a little while ago got answered.
2) Liz is fucking op af lmao. She is basically cheating with that power. Also i thought she could only teleport between bodies of water, how did she create it? (did Amber create it? must've missed it).
3) I'm so fuckin glad the update didn't end with Micheals death being up in the air. I would actually fucking lose it otherwise.
4) Truly sad as i finally accept that Emily was a side character all along. Ella is getting better and better every update, I can admit she is gonna be a on MC's side.
5) I don't know what the humans existing in the monster world at one point means, but I'll let WW cook.

Finally, sincerely hope next update won't be the half way point of the game. As much as I like this game, another four years of story seems much. Hope its like 70% complete atleast.
 
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Oh man now that you mention it. Michael's fights were the absolute peak in the series for me, maybe it also reminded me of Berserk so that's why, but him going toe-to-toe with a superhuman and a monster was so hype to watch.
The story has to progress, I get that, but ever since he got his powers I doubt his fights will be as entertaining to read as those two were when he was still a human.

I'm also afraid in the future, we might be headed to where fights are in the same vein as Sylla vs Indra, way over the top abilities, massive explosions of power, fulll Dragonball style stuff which I just don't find as fun to watch/read.
Part of the reason I hope Bernhardt, Malik, and Bendrix will get clapped, I just feel that after a certain power level is reached, fights become boring and unimaginative.
Michael was pretty much the Batman of this universe for a while. Now hes Superbatman.
 

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Nothing in the series was more fun and imaginative than Ella running the H.E.R.O gauntlet. Most people love the reality bending over the top fighting. It gives you much more options to write their fights. Micheal killing the monsters as a human was pretty cool to see, but you can't really keep repeating that. You gotta give him powers at that point.

Sylla vs Indra wasn't the best for me either, but that's because Indra is a pretty boring fighter, loved seeing Sylla in action though. I feel bad for Micheal cause I think out of the entire superhuman main characters, he has the most boring powers, at least for now. It fits him, but the others can do so much more with their powers. I'll reserve judgment on the Twins for now but drowning monsters was pretty cool.
 
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