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The anniversary is actually on the 13th of February. We found out on stream that WW released the game earlier on Patreon. As for the plan, he's going to do a sort of award stream. Things like Best fights, Hype moments, Biggest L in game and so on. You can ask tomorrow for more information during stream.
 

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The anniversary is actually on the 13th of February. We found out on stream that WW released the game earlier on Patreon. As for the plan, he's going to do a sort of award stream. Things like Best fights, Hype moments, Biggest L in game and so on. You can ask tomorrow for more information during stream.
Biggest L has to be Cole, dude lost with over 3K power difference iirc
 
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Biggest L has to be Cole, dude lost with over 3K power difference iirc
Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.
 

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Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.
The eye aint even complete tho, so its understandable those Ls.

Cole not only loses twice to the MC ( on his 3rd and 4th with Deryl), he also got NTR'd by the MC and lost his jaw. Dude can't catch a break, I almost feel bad for him.
 

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Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.
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The eye knowing he has no chance of winning.
 

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Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.
Cole was 3k and mc is around 500-600 at that time so deryl and him would be like 1200 maybe still cole has a 1800 powr Gap and still almost 3 times the power in comparison to deryl and mc combined.Still as my meme said The eye be wilding he be on that faith Run.
 
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The eye aint even complete tho, so its understandable those Ls.

Cole not only loses twice to the MC ( on his 3rd and 4th with Deryl), he also got NTR'd by the MC and lost his jaw. Dude can't catch a break, I almost feel bad for him.
That's not a good excuse. The Eye intentionally goes out there incomplete and believes he'll win until he gets stomped. That's an L. Especially when he already knows the outcome, apparently. Yet, still chooses to go like he's going to succeed anyway.

Cole was 3k and mc is around 500-600 at that time so deryl and him would be like 1200 maybe still cole has a 1800 powr Gap and still almost 3 times the power in comparison to deryl and mc combined.Still as my meme said The eye be wilding he be on that faith Run.
I guess? But Cole ain't some higher being with infinite power while connected to his higher plane of existence. Along with being in a position to know of alternative outcomes. The Origin legit has a massive head start by knowing what's going to happen and still comes out with an L against his enemy.

If anything, Cole would be 2nd after that.
 

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That's not a good excuse. The Eye intentionally goes out there incomplete and believes he'll win until he gets stomped. That's an L. Especially when he already knows the outcome, apparently. Yet, still chooses to go like he's going to succeed anyway.


I guess? But Cole ain't some higher being with infinite power while connected to his higher plane of existence. Along with being in a position to know of alternative outcomes. The Origin legit has a massive head start by knowing what's going to happen and still comes out with an L against his enemy.

If anything, Cole would be 2nd after that.
I just see eye as retarded bro it knows it will lose but it is like maybe this time it will work.
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That's not a good excuse. The Eye intentionally goes out there incomplete and believes he'll win until he gets stomped. That's an L. Especially when he already knows the outcome, apparently. Yet, still chooses to go like he's going to succeed anyway.
Eye doesn't read the future now does he? it's an ancient being that has been waiting for a really long ass while and finally has a chance with our MC so ofc he goes out there and break free if the player picks the wrong choices. He doesn't know it all and it's suprised to see OP mfers like the big 3 and Deus isn't a normal lvl 4.

Now we really going to compare that to Cole? Dude had a rough child hood under Brannon's care, crushed hard on Ella his whole life and tried to get her attention only to have our chad MC come in like a wrecking ball and ruin his whole world. C'mon dude who's the biggest loser between those two?
 
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I just see eye as retarded bro it knows it will lose but it is like maybe this time it will work.
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What's fucked up is, those are just the two attempts we know about. That Eye probably got so many other Ls that we don't see, it's probably insane. Hell, it might've actually went insane because of that and just jumps at any chance now.

Eye doesn't read the future now does he? it's an ancient being that has been waiting for a really long ass while and finally has a chance with our MC so ofc he goes out there and break free if the player picks the wrong choices. He doesn't know it all and it's suprised to see OP mfers like the big 3 and Deus isn't a normal lvl 4.

Now we really going to compare that to Cole? Dude had a rough child hood under Brannon's care, crushed hard on Ella his whole life and tried to get her attention only to have our chad MC come in like a wrecking ball and ruin his whole world. C'mon dude who's the biggest loser between those two?
Why are you repeating the same thing I already said like that would make a difference? I already put the context of Deus having more power than Nico at Level 4 to show he's not normal. That doesn't change anything though. Origin knows he lost to Deus, even if you don't do that dead end or have the stats for it. That means he has some level of awareness of the many outcomes out there.

He also flat out states that MC isn't ready for him to take over, but accepts anyway if MC agrees. Just because he's impatient doesn't disqualify his bad decisions. A L is a L. He lost twice to Superhumans as a God. Hell, Lexi even turned his power back on him, before he had to smack her across the dimension. What are we even talking about here?

So no, I don't think Cole is worse than that. You're free to believe he is, but I'm a bit different. We're talking about one of the Gods in the entire setting doing dumb shit against Superhumans. A Level 4 losing to a Level 3 isn't even unheard of in the game. Hell, Level 4 Ella somehow beat Hex and cheesed Valravn after catching him during his ritual. That's two S Class monsters. Is that a bigger L? Even though Valravn lost his heart. He still should've won since he killed the previous Chosen of the 3rd, who was likely much stronger.
 
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Why are you repeating the same thing I already said like that would make a difference? I already put the context of Deus having more power than Nico at Level 4 to show he's not normal. That doesn't change anything though. Origin knows he lost to Deus, even if you don't do that dead end or have the stats for it. That means he has some level of awareness of the many outcomes out there.

Well, my memory is foggy cuz I haven't played in a minute, but the whole point is, the Eye itself doesn't know it all, I remember the last dead end when Bernhardt killed him, he was quite suprised that 3 beings like those are allowed to live. That isn't an embarrasing L there IMO.

On the Battle of the Diamonds dead end, the eye itself is weak and desperately trying to find something (possibly Ella and someone else) for some unknown reason and runs into Lexi who's a complete lvl 5 superhuman and Deus who is clearly not normal, another L that isn't embarrasing and is justified. Sure you may argue the Eye being retarded but in none of those cases struck me as a huge L or OMG A GOD LOST TO SOME GRUNTS.

Cole in the other hand, he lost to the MC because he threw caution aside, he kept falling for MC and Deryl's tricks through the entire fight for an embarrasing defeat. It stings even more 'cause he didn't even get killed and is now a lab rat for Tanos.
 
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Well, my memory is foggy cuz I haven't played in a minute, but the whole point is, the Eye itself doesn't know it all, I remember the last dead end when Bernhardt killed him, he was quite suprised that 3 beings like those are allowed to live. That isn't an embarrasing L there IMO.

On the Battle of the Diamonds dead end, the eye itself is weak and desperately trying to find something (possibly Ella and someone else) for some unknown reason and runs into Lexi who's a complete lvl 5 superhuman and Deus who is clearly not normal, another L that isn't embarrasing and is justified. Sure you may argue the Eye being retarded but in none of those cases struck me as a huge L or OMG A GOD LOST TO SOME GRUNTS.

Cole in the other hand, he lost to the MC because he threw caution aside, he kept falling for MC and Deryl's tricks through the entire fight for an embarrasing defeat. It stings even more 'cause he didn't even get killed and is now a lab rat for Tanos.
The Eye gets memories from all of the surrounding monsters and Goliath. That's while boasting about having power beyond Level 5 and his connection to his higher plane giving him inexhaustible power.... He was in no way weaker than Lexi. Especially when he could've killed Goliath and Lexi can't penetrate him because of his size. That is embarrassing.

Like I said though, you're more than free to say Level 4 Cole is worse for losing against two Level 3s. That's fine. However, I think the Origin is much worse and there's really no way you'll convince me otherwise.
 

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Like I said though, you're more than free to say Level 4 Cole is worse for losing against two Level 3s. That's fine. However, I think the Origin is much worse and there's really no way you'll convince me otherwise.
Fair enough, I suppose. I give the Eye a break cuz he isn't complete and lvl 5 superhumans aren't to be slept on, if anything it reinforces my belief that the big 3 at HERO will be the final challenge for the MC in a full corruption playthrough. (Yeah in the current arc I don't think the Chosen will win that war vs HERO lol).
 

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Don't get the hype around apostles tbh. The big three H.E.R.Os would destroy them imo. We see the full extent of two apostles, (Mom is undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage) and they don't look much stronger then Ella. Id say are a bit weaker to as strong as other HERO leaders. Until I see Indra pull out a plank lightning he ain't beat any of the mutated spawns.

Deus clearly ain't normal so idk how you even quantify his powers as of now and Bernhardt is part of the big three.
 
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Don't get the hype around apostles tbh. The big three H.E.R.Os would destroy them imo. We see the full extent of two apostles, (Mom is undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage) and they don't look much stronger then Ella. Id say are a bit weaker to as strong as other HERO leaders. Until I see Indra pull out a plank lightning he ain't beat any of the mutated spawns.

Deus clearly ain't normal so idk how you even quantify his powers as of now and Bernhardt is part of the big three.
Well technically, the Apostles we see are avatars of their true forms in the higher plane. I recall some mention of how the Lord of Dark is purposefully preventing those Apostles of whom their avatars have been killed from reforming. We know Valravn has killed at least three, with someone else (I think Indra) having killed another three.
 

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The theory I have on the Eye and why it jobs is this. The eye by default has awareness to what happens to him on other timelines. For this knowledge to occur, he has to act up so that he hopefully gets information. Kind of like doing a run to see what happens, knowing full well that victory is essentially assured. If it represents evolution while it cannot see all the outcomes and pick best one like Ywach with the allmighty, he still gets wisdom from previous runs like pick an MC for a time loop story.

Tempted to argue the biggest L is how poorly Deryl does vs Devanna. MC would had still lost to Evander solo. Shen being there guarantees defeat. Its just that MC has a bad matchup vs destruction and still puts up a better fight than Deryl did vs another creation spawn of the same level. Just feels like he was straight up stronger as a monster, it takes for the monster world for him to be back at his monster level somewhat. It feels like a massive L to me since its a mirror match basically.

The eye I would argue is just gathering info or having fun disregarding the consequences. The Eye lacking the ability to gather info across timelines would make him a bit of a jobber. Not sure if he has it since my knowledge of the lore is limited.

Cole just went full retard in every sense of the word, which to be fair to him makes sense given as far as he was concerned, MC got that Ella pussy while Cole did not. If he was thinking straight he would not had gotten into that fight to begin with or had managed to win it while he still could, similar to Anakin vs Obi-Wan in EP 3 in the going full retard department.
 
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