BenoTF25

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I'm already on Monster World arc with a new save in preparation for the(hopefully) soon update, i only began to play SH on Oct I think, so I have not been around since the beginning of this arc, that by some comments on this thread, is widely seen as longer than it must have been, still it offer quite a lot of interesting info, but mostly interactions, that hit more on a re-read.

Mainly Doll-Ella's, in particular two things she said put me to think, when talking about how they became Super Humans, she mention that a ton of Monsters showed up during her infection, as far as i know, that has only happen with her, the second is when everybody talk about how was their first time, Ella just said sum like 'You don't want to know, trust me', and that was after Alice and Michael own already messed up tales, worse still, Ella don't think twice to say out of pocket stuff, so she keeping that to herself make me think that was stuff out of nightmare, that I really hope is unrelated to Tanos or her ascension.
 
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Blaze_Lumini

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...I have a theory that she will either absorb the doll Ella when they meet to regain her power (a la Deryl) OR by the time they meet...
...I have a similar theory: I think that Ella genuinely is dead, but she plans on using the MC's powers to revive her... ...But Ella did tell Cole that she would give literally everything of herself to her chosen one, in a way that he interpreted as romantic but to me sounded sacrificial...

...I think that's why Ella baited out an attack from Nyx, not because she could survive it but because it would guarantee an intact corpse for the MC to eat. Ella wouldn't get that with Malik or Nico. She's not waiting for the negative energy to fade so she can stand up...
From everything I see of Ella, she goes into everything with a plan. As cocky as she comes off, she's not as arrogant as she makes herself appear. The short story on Patreon "Journal entry: Future Plans..." gives a lot of contextual clues as to what was going on in Ella's head before the battle of diamonds. Losing the effigy and needing to have Deryl make a new one put her behind schedule to a critical degree. While ultimately she was successful (with her objective... the ritual?), she for some reason chose to stay and fight. She went into the fight fully understanding she was going to die. And she planned to fight (and die?) by "Captian Mommy" from the beginning. I'd say things went a little off the rails when Nico ended up being far more of an issue than bargained for and "Captain Fire" broke out of his containment sooner than expected. (Apparently, Eisheth was supposed to attack Malik too to keep him at bay for a time.)

So my thoughts on this are:
-Ella talked about how she knew all about the monster that gave Nyx her powers. She planned to die the way that she did, by Nyx's hands. And from what words we hear from dead Ella from both the Body Path and Shen's dream in Fantasy Path, I'd say things are still going along with Ella's Plan.
-Something that has bothered me for some time is Bailey's mention of seeing on the TV monster a short dark-haired girl seemingly discussing something nefarious with Dr. Xanthe. Super vague and something easily missed had we not eaten Bailey when asked.
-To a lesser or greater degree the doll is sharing memories with Big Ella. Whether that Big Ella is dead Ella in dreamworld or a very alive Ella from Earth... who knows? But as Juscaa mentioned, it will probably lead to doll Ella being absorbed by big Ella at some point.
-Maybe Ella's end goal IS for MC to merge with her, as Dinoflaggelate said. Makes some sense since even Origin form MC stated it needed Ella to be whole.
 

Blaze_Lumini

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I'm already on Monster World arc with a new save in preparation for the(hopefully) soon update, i only began to play SH on Oct I think, so I have not been around since the beginning of this arc, that by some comments on this thread, is widely seen as longer than it must have been, still it offer quite a lot of interesting info, but mostly interactions, that hit more on a re-read.

Mainly Doll-Ella's, in particular two things she said put me to think, when talking about how they became Super Humans, she mention that a ton of Monsters showed up during her infection, as far as i know, that has only happen with her, the second is when everybody talk about how was their first time, Ella just said sum like 'You don't want to know, trust me', and that was after Alice and Michael own already messed up tales, worse still, Ella don't think twice to say out of pocket stuff, so she keeping that to herself make me think that was stuff out of nightmare, that I really hope is unrelated to Tanos or her ascension.
Yeah, even the early game sex scene with Ella and Tenticles has her mentioning how "it was just like her first time, more or less. Emphasis on less". That comment and how she didn't want to go into her story makes me think the same... Honestly, I'm expecting some super fucked up shit on the same level or worse than how we found the twins. Between that and the time MC and Ella likely spent together during his month running away, I imagine players are about to become a lot more sympathetic to her.
 

DrakoGhoul

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-Something that has bothered me for some time is Bailey's mention of seeing on the TV monster a short dark-haired girl seemingly discussing something nefarious with Dr. Xanthe. Super vague and something easily missed had we not eaten Bailey when asked.
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Why would Xanthe talking to Nico bother you? They're always plotting some secret mission together. Just like with the Aos thing with Klaus and the Hex dimension weakening device. Something even Malik wasn't aware of at the time.
 
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Something that has bothered me for some time is Bailey's mention of seeing on the TV monster a short dark-haired girl seemingly discussing something nefarious with Dr. Xanthe. Super vague and something easily missed had we not eaten Bailey when asked.
I totally forgot about that part. I just went back and checked, and Bailey says that Bramon said to the short dark-haired girl "something about alternative subjects, and a new body". Yeah, if that's not about reviving Ella, I will be very surprised.
 

DrakoGhoul

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I totally forgot about that part. I just went back and checked, and Bailey says that Bramon said to the short dark-haired girl "something about alternative subjects, and a new body". Yeah, if that's not about reviving Ella, I will be very surprised.
Could just as easily be about finding more Apostle shells. Something Aglaecwif mentioned as HERO objective.
 
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Could just as easily be about finding more Apostle shells. Something Aglaecwif mentioned as HERO objective.
Oh yeah, that could be. I guess I'm just cognitively biased right now because I'm already thinking about Ella reviving. Thanks for reminding me of that possibility. It does seem more likely.

Actually, now that I think about it, it might even be about making an Apostle shell. Eisheth would have just told Bramon about how the Apostle's avatars are made out of existing bodies at the time Bailey would be watching the TV monster. Maybe he's not saying "there's a new body to retrieve" but "the Apostles make new bodies for themselves", and he's talking with Nico about a plan he has to study that process. Bailey also says that Bramon was upset over a vote not going his way, and H.E.R.O. are on board for collecting existing Apostle shells. But if Bramon wanted to intentionally summon an Apostle into a body, that they'd vote him down on.
 

BenoTF25

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Yeah, even the early game sex scene with Ella and Tenticles has her mentioning how "it was just like her first time, more or less. Emphasis on less". That comment and how she didn't want to go into her story makes me think the same... Honestly, I'm expecting some super fucked up shit on the same level or worse than how we found the twins. Between that and the time MC and Ella likely spent together during his month running away, I imagine players are about to become a lot more sympathetic to her.
In all honesty, I hope if that is really the case, WW limit himself to only a talked recall not showing it, I don't really consider myself a sensitive person when it come to certain things taking place in fiction, even less of an H Game, but men, on one in which I genuinely feel the characters, something of that nature would seriously come to me as messed up, and as much as I wouldn't want to believe is that way, seeing those comments from Ella, and how much she hates Tanos, make me think is the more likely option
 

Blaze_Lumini

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Why would Xanthe talking to Nico bother you? They're always plotting some secret mission together. Just like with the Aos thing with Klaus and the Hex dimension weakening device. Something even Malik wasn't aware of at the time.
I love that you just show Nico in all her glory as a counterpoint. Fair enough! :LOL:

Oh yeah, that could be. I guess I'm just cognitively biased right now because I'm already thinking about Ella reviving. Thanks for reminding me of that possibility. It does seem more likely.

Actually, now that I think about it, it might even be about making an Apostle shell. Eisheth would have just told Bramon about how the Apostle's avatars are made out of existing bodies at the time Bailey would be watching the TV monster. Maybe he's not saying "there's a new body to retrieve" but "the Apostles make new bodies for themselves", and he's talking with Nico about a plan he has to study that process. Bailey also says that Bramon was upset over a vote not going his way, and H.E.R.O. are on board for collecting existing Apostle shells. But if Bramon wanted to intentionally summon an Apostle into a body, that they'd vote him down on.
The timing of it seemed to point more towards ell..........Wait a minute. What if the short dark-haired girl was Charlie? And she was talking about her brother to Dr. Xanthe? That would line up pretty well with the actual dialogue. I'd be surprised she decided to take the plunge and risk it, but after talking to Deryl maybe Charlie came to a decision? Maybe she has something to negotiate with Dr. Xanthe to bargain for her brother's back or his recovery?
 
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The timing of it seemed to point more towards ell..........Wait a minute. What if the short dark-haired girl was Charlie? And she was talking about her brother to Dr. Xanthe? That would line up pretty well with the actual dialogue. I'd be surprised she decided to take the plunge and risk it, but after talking to Deryl maybe Charlie came to a decision? Maybe she has something to negotiate with Dr. Xanthe to bargain for her brother's back or his recovery?
No, Bailey said the girl had large breasts. Which doesn't narrow it down by a lot in this game, since there are a ton of dark-haired big-breasted short girls. But it does mean that Charlie, at least, is out of the running.
 

BenoTF25

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There really are a ton of things set up for happening on earth that probably are gonna pop up when the MC and the Group finally come back, I trust on Weird World handling such large number of plots well, but seriously, is gonna be a lot before Ver 1.0.

In particular i'm really curious about if Aglaecwif is really gonna use her offspring with the MC as a living weapon, since during her scene she mentioned something along the lines of wanting a son that could challenge even the Gods, i really hope is not that way, because I don't want my boy Malik having the worst record among the three natural lvl 5, but would be kind of funny(on a narratively fucked up way) if once we got back to his fight with Aglaecwif, he is already defeated by the MC's son/daughter
 

DrakoGhoul

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No, Bailey said the girl had large breasts. Which doesn't narrow it down by a lot in this game, since there are a ton of dark-haired big-breasted short girls. But it does mean that Charlie, at least, is out of the running.
It actually does narrow it down. At least in HERO. Nico is the only short stack with black hair and big tits. She's around 5'6. Nyx is taller than her. And depending on how you interpret the short part. She's the only one with short, black hair.

Of course, Bailey could be talking about a member we haven't seen like Melody. But I feel like there's only really Nico who fits the bill. That's on top of us knowing Xanthe likes to have her assist him with his sus stuff he's doing.
 

DenimRat

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Haven't played in a long time, based on it being v0.996 I'm thinking we're close to the end? Was thinking about just waiting for completion, anyone know how close it is to being finished? In terms of updates, not time. I saw the latest Patreon post.
 

txe320

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Haven't played in a long time, based on it being v0.996 I'm thinking we're close to the end? Was thinking about just waiting for completion, anyone know how close it is to being finished? In terms of updates, not time. I saw the latest Patreon post.
I thing we don't know. Everybody can guess. For me, I think we are maybe at half point in game, maybe a little past that.
 

jjtom000

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Every time someone says that I always ask where the misinformation is.

Rarely, if ever, does someone actually point out actual misinformation so we can correct it :KEK:
Oh I remember two examples just off the top of my head.

The first one is that on Himavat's page, the wiki claimed that Dexter said that multiple nukes can kill a Himavat, while he never said that. What he said is that even a regular mountain would take hundreds of nukes to destroy, and a Himavant is far more durable than a regular mountain. So in reality, hundreds of nukes would do basically next to nothing to a Hivamat, not to mention killing it. The person who wrote it probably didn't pay much attention to the dialogue or the monster classification lesson in HERO.
The second one is from Goliath's page, where the wiki stated that Goliath's punch hit with the force of a nuke or sth, while what the game actually says is that the shockwave from Goliath's punch can be compared to a nuclear explosion, not the force of the hit itself. In fact, the hit itself should be magnitudes stronger than nuclear explosions since it completely obliterated a Hivamat, something impossible for nuclear weapons to do.

And these are just the ones I remember from my 10 or so minutes on the wiki, I would probably find much more if I continued browsing. Also I'm just talking about misinformation, and the "theory/speculation treated as lore" problem is even more staggering. It's so incessant that I would probably exceed the word limit talking about it and I honestly don't care enough to do it lol.
 

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Nope, with what happened to WeirdWorld, can be at the end of the month, or next month, maybe even the other. But, I wouldn't be surprise if the update drop in like mid-April.
Before the power outage, WW said the update would be out this month. Given that lasted for roughly a week, it should be mid-April at the latest.
 
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