VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[Grimnir098]

While MC does have regeneration, Evander's ability is destruction. The matchup does not lend itself to last long, because well it is destruction. Now if Evander was power, I would be more understanding. If any spawn could hope to end things fast without say teleporting someone or due to overwhelming power difference it is destruction, reasons why Danica struggles if the initial burst does not do the job sort of helps back up the statement a bit but I know Evander has more going, specially on defense.

Do you not remember that fight or something? Evander's ability may be destruction, but it's not like that prevents MC from regenerating, or even slows it down. You know what does slow it down? Michael's radiation.
The reason MC has a bad matchup with Evander isn't because Evander has the destruction trait, it's because Evander's entire body is covered in destruction so physical attacks literally have no effect on him, aside from maybe knockback depending on the attack, which means MC can't really do anything against him.
Another thing that helped MC is that he can fly and Evander can't. As soon as MC realises this, Evander becomes extremely predictable (at least on his own) because he needs to jump to reach MC, meaning he can only move in a straight line at a steady speed and unable to stop whenever he's trying to attack.

And yeah Deryl lacking his chimeras and his stone is him with his pants down but it sort of isent a good look all the same, he gets redemeed in Cole fight in more ways than one. Something similar could be said for Cole going full retard due to realizing he has something in common with Will Smith. Which is why rather than win a fight that should had been his, loses and evolves only to then have to deal with Deryl, still loses because he was still going full retard.

It's a fine look unless you're braindead. This is like saying a swordsman took a major L because he lost a swordfight... when his sword was broken before the fight started.
Cole is completely different because being retarded is not an excuse, while not having your most powerful weapon is.

 

[Dark T-Rex]

The reason MC has a bad matchup with Evander isn't because Evander has the destruction trait, it's because Evander's entire body is covered in destruction so physical attacks literally have no effect on him, aside from maybe knockback depending on the attack, which means MC can't really do anything against him.

Evander’s destruction field can destroy physical objects that touch him, but it can’t eliminate the force of an object if he’s hit hard enough. Evander felt the impact when the MC hit him with 4 trees at once.


It’s the same with Michael; he can absorb kinetic energy with his powers, but he can’t stop the force of it, not entirely.

 

[JicioJ]

Idk, maybe its fanboyism but I think MC couldve dealt with any of the twins alone, with Evander, flying and batting him with random things and with Devana he already got a good hit that pierced her stomach, her body also isn't strong, being from creation.

 

[shujuku]

Don't get the hype around apostles tbh. The big three H.E.R.Os would destroy them imo. We see the full extent of two apostles, (Mom is undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage) and they don't look much stronger then Ella. Id say are a bit weaker to as strong as other HERO leaders. Until I see Indra pull out a plank lightning he ain't beat any of the mutated spawns.

Deus clearly ain't normal so idk how you even quantify his powers as of now and Bernhardt is part of the big three.

lmao dude the apostles cant even manifest because they are too OP and everytime they try to manifest they use some budget 1% of my total power avatar that gets incinerated because it cant contain their presence. Apostles are definitely stronger than any hero and ATM the only one with slight potential is Henri who has the same power as someone before and because that human had the potential to slightly threaten the Apostles and stand on their power level they got exterminated. You can read on this when Henri and MC climbed the tower where MC at the top asked the agglomeration of mankind 1 question that it answered. Of course if you save here you can ask it multiple questions and get all the answers

 

[Landro2340]

lmao dude the apostles cant even manifest because they are too OP and everytime they try to manifest they use some budget 1% of my total power avatar that gets incinerated because it cant contain their presence. Apostles are definitely stronger than any hero and ATM the only one with slight potential is Henri who has the same power as someone before and because that human had the potential to slightly threaten the Apostles and stand on their power level they got exterminated. You can read on this when Henri and MC climbed the tower where MC at the top asked the agglomeration of mankind 1 question that it answered. Of course if you save here you can ask it multiple questions and get all the answers

I think the bro u replying to got the Apostles confused with the Chosen, which is why I agreed with his post, the chosen are overhyped way too much imo, the Apostles are a different beast and that's when shit will truly hit the fan in the story imo.

 

[GarefT]

Wasn't expecting to find such a gem. Love it's artstyle and character design (big titties), it is just very refreshing to see something different (and nice). I also find the pacing of the writing just right for me. I really enjoyed it! Though I would say I liked Alice's art much better before the update, (the most early design) seemed to give me the best vibe about her. Would love to see more work from this dev in the future, looking forward to it!

 

[jjtom000]

The Eye gets memories from all of the surrounding monsters and Goliath. That's while boasting about having power beyond Level 5 and his connection to his higher plane giving him inexhaustible power.... He was in no way weaker than Lexi. Especially when he could've killed Goliath and Lexi can't penetrate him because of his size. That is embarrassing.

Like I said though, you're more than free to say Level 4 Cole is worse for losing against two Level 3s. That's fine. However, I think the Origin is much worse and there's really no way you'll convince me otherwise.

Slight correction: lvl4 Cole didn't lose to two lvl3s, he lost to 2 lvl3s plus 2(1.5?) lvl1s that have crazy hax. Without Limber stepping in Cole will melt Deyrl while MC can't do shit but watch and then he will easily kill MC and everyone else.

 

[jjtom000]

lmao dude the apostles cant even manifest because they are too OP and everytime they try to manifest they use some budget 1% of my total power avatar that gets incinerated because it cant contain their presence. Apostles are definitely stronger than any hero and ATM the only one with slight potential is Henri who has the same power as someone before and because that human had the potential to slightly threaten the Apostles and stand on their power level they got exterminated. You can read on this when Henri and MC climbed the tower where MC at the top asked the agglomeration of mankind 1 question that it answered. Of course if you save here you can ask it multiple questions and get all the answers

It's literally stated that the avatars contain all their might, the only difference from the real thing is that the avatars doesn't last

 

[Jonathan Y]

Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.

Bro the Eye, after possesing a level 2 Mc, was able to consume Michael, Deryl, Alice, and that diamond chick in a instant ( through his sentence regarding his hundreds of tails feeding on ''something'' ), he neutralized Alexis, a level 5, after a mere MOMENTS of battle, killed dozens of monsters instantly, and made Goliath submit with his mere presence alone.

Then a single evolution later he was able to consume EVERYONE in the artificial world made by the Hexenringe, correct me if I'm wrong but this includes SO many people, again, Michael, Alice, Liz, Amber, Thanos, Cole, Briar, the rune chick, Met, Rina and most of S.I.N, and since it stated he consumed everyone then it prolly means Shen aswell, and ofc the Hexenringe itself who is stated just gave up and waited to be consumed PLUS hundreds of monsters that were going rampant in that dimension, and this was MOMENTS after he got loose, think about it.

It is my understanding that he in both ressurections was looking for Ella, in pursuit of consuming / rejoining with the 3rd and 4th, hence him saying he ''needs atleast one'' of the two, when he thinks of fighting the big three.

When you consider who he lost against it is no wonder he lost, Deus literally went back in time to sever the timeline, and Bernhardt is literally the strongest being in existence bar the apostles.
You got 4 names who/can beat the eye in his two incomplete forms, 1 can literally erase you from existence by time travel and the other three are the last bullwarks of humanity. Yet FAR from complete the Eye would've stomped anyone else.

If we're being fair the biggest L goes to Valravn, dude loses his heart, botches his whole life's purpose, gets defeated and captured, then is set free only to lose to a level 2 and end up captured AGAIN.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Bro the Eye, after possesing a level 2 Mc, was able to consume Michael, Deryl, Alice, and that diamond chick in a instant ( through his sentence regarding his hundreds of tails feeding on ''something'' ), he neutralized Alexis, a level 5, after a mere MOMENTS of battle, killed dozens of monsters instantly, and made Goliath submit with his mere presence alone.



When you consider who he lost against it is no wonder he lost, Deus literally went back in time to sever the timeline, and Bernhardt is literally the strongest being in existence bar the apostles.
You got 4 names who/can beat the eye in his two incomplete forms, 1 can literally erase you from existence by time travel and the other three are the last bullwarks of humanity. Yet FAR from complete the Eye would've stomped anyone else.

Deus most likely did not go to the past he most likely went to the immaterial world ,the world of dreams where mc also can go now and from there he destroyed the eye's connection to the higher realm.

 

[Jonathan Y]

Deus most likely did not go to the past he most likely went to the immaterial world ,the world of dreams where mc also can go now and from there he destroyed the eye's connection to the higher realm.

Oh that's his power, huh, I wonder where I got time travel from damn, my bad.

 

[jjtom000]

Don't get the hype around apostles tbh. The big three H.E.R.Os would destroy them imo. We see the full extent of two apostles, (Mom is undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage) and they don't look much stronger then Ella. Id say are a bit weaker to as strong as other HERO leaders. Until I see Indra pull out a plank lightning he ain't beat any of the mutated spawns.

Deus clearly ain't normal so idk how you even quantify his powers as of now and Bernhardt is part of the big three.

Reminder that Sea humans had someone like Henri and still got BTFO alongside all the alt humans the moment 2nd decided to intervene, let that sink in.

 

[jjtom000]

Idk, maybe its fanboyism but I think MC couldve dealt with any of the twins alone, with Evander, flying and batting him with random things and with Devana he already got a good hit that pierced her stomach, her body also isn't strong, being from creation.

Nah that's fair, what's fanboyism is thinking MC can take them both easily when they've barely shown what they were capable of and the only time MC successfully dealt any damage to the twins was because of Shen's fuck up.

The coping and glazing after the twin fight were so fucking bad that in the next update, WW had to use Syla to tell the glazers to calm the fuck down and remind them that the twins had only shown a fraction of their power and the fact that they were ordered to capture Mc alive changed the whole thing.

 

[jjtom000]

Nah, he only had an upper 2k power difference. It's probably less when you factor in both MC and Deryl combined power pool. Which should come out at around 1k to possibly 1.2k.

The biggest L actually goes to Origin MC. He lost to Deus, who's noted as being Level 4 by Lisa. Though Valravn states he has more power than even Nico, who is Level 5. Then Origin MC arrives again and gets one shot by Bernhardt. He's legit 0-2.

You might say those aren't bad, but when you realize he's potentially an Arbiter, or at minimum above the Apostles, he starts to look like a bum. Even moreso since he is aware of his past Ls and still chooses to go and lose anyway.

I think you misread it, pretty sure Val stated that Deus's power is very weak compared to Nico like a candle to wildfire or sth along the line, which I assume is also the reason the eye mistook him as a human. Also, Deus was never stated to be lvl4. It's stated that all Lucifer members beside him are lvl 5 but Deus's lvl was never specified. Considering his seemingly weak power lvl he might as well be a lvl1 or something else entirely.

 

[jjtom000]

Deus most likely did not go to the past he most likely went to the immaterial world ,the world of dreams where mc also can go now and from there he destroyed the eye's connection to the higher realm.

What makes you say that?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Bro the Eye, after possesing a level 2 Mc, was able to consume Michael, Deryl, Alice, and that diamond chick in a instant ( through his sentence regarding his hundreds of tails feeding on ''something'' ), he neutralized Alexis, a level 5, after a mere MOMENTS of battle, killed dozens of monsters instantly, and made Goliath submit with his mere presence alone.

That first part is head canon. We don't know who got absorbed and who didn't. The Origin tried to sneak Lexi and she dodged him. He then tried to neutralize her and she turned his power back on him. In which he had to smack her across the dimension instead. Goliath submitting, I already noted. He still got dumped into space by Nico though.

Then a single evolution later he was able to consume EVERYONE in the artificial world made by the Hexenringe, correct me if I'm wrong but this includes SO many people, again, Michael, Alice, Liz, Amber, Thanos, Cole, Briar, the rune chick, Met, Rina and most of S.I.N, and since it stated he consumed everyone then it prolly means Shen aswell, and ofc the Hexenringe itself who is stated just gave up and waited to be consumed PLUS hundreds of monsters that were going rampant in that dimension, and this was MOMENTS after he got loose, think about it.

Incorrect. By the time of MC and Cole fought, most people already left or was near the portal. As Hex was evacuating people from Nico's power destabilizing the dimension. That means Tanos and everyone who went with him to see the Rebis weren't in Hex Dimension during that period. So I'm not sure what's the big deal here with the Origin eating Hex, who was injured by Bernhardt and creating too many dimensions. Not that he would've put up a fight. It's just not worth bringing up.

It is my understanding that he in both ressurections was looking for Ella, in pursuit of consuming / rejoining with the 3rd and 4th, hence him saying he ''needs atleast one'' of the two, when he thinks of fighting the big three.

When you consider who he lost against it is no wonder he lost, Deus literally went back in time to sever the timeline, and Bernhardt is literally the strongest being in existence bar the apostles.
You got 4 names who/can beat the eye in his two incomplete forms, 1 can literally erase you from existence by time travel and the other three are the last bullwarks of humanity. Yet FAR from complete the Eye would've stomped anyone else.

Deus didn't erase the Origin from existence though. Even if he time travelled or went to the immaterial world. All he did was sever his connection to the material world aka MC's body he possessed. The same with Bernhardt.

If we're being fair the biggest L goes to Valravn, dude loses his heart, botches his whole life's purpose, gets defeated and captured, then is set free only to lose to a level 2 and end up captured AGAIN.

Already mentioned Valravn. Seeing as the other person I responded to said Cole losing to Level 3s was huge. I pointed out that Valravn losing to Level 4 Ella and her kids should be worse, by that thinking. Since he's S Class and she was Level 4. Even without his heart, the gap should've been huge still. There's no need for fairness, when I was already being fair.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I think you misread it, pretty sure Val stated that Deus's power is very weak compared to Nico like a candle to wildfire or sth along the line, which I assume is also the reason the eye mistook him as a human. Also, Deus was never stated to be lvl4. It's stated that all Lucifer members beside him are lvl 5 but Deus's lvl was never specified. Considering his seemingly weak power lvl he might as well be a lvl1 or something else entirely.

I'll check in a bit or you can post the dialogue from the game.

 

[jjtom000]

Don't get the hype around apostles tbh. The big three H.E.R.Os would destroy them imo. We see the full extent of two apostles, (Mom is undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage) and they don't look much stronger then Ella. Id say are a bit weaker to as strong as other HERO leaders. Until I see Indra pull out a plank lightning he ain't beat any of the mutated spawns.

Deus clearly ain't normal so idk how you even quantify his powers as of now and Bernhardt is part of the big three.

" undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage " Bitch pls, Indra literally stood there patiently waiting for Syla to finish her prep at the start of the fight and only summon his weapon at the very last moment and we saw how big of a difference his toy made. I imagine it's his way to make it a fairer fight.
And truth be told, even without the matchup thing, if he really decides to go all out he would've just summoned Vajra from the very beginning and none of what Syla does would matter. He would just crash any transformation she has alongside her connection to the immaterial world and slaughter her in the real world.

 

[Zolrazz]

Hey guys, just stopping by to say that I love you and this game

Ella supremacy

 

[Landro2340]

" undoubtedly stronger and just had a matchup disadvantage " Bitch pls, Indra literally stood there patiently waiting for Syla to finish her prep at the start of the fight and only summon his weapon at the very last moment and we saw how big of a difference his toy made. I imagine it's his way to make it a fairer fight.
And truth be told, even without the matchup thing, if he really decides to go all out he would've just summoned Vajra from the very beginning and none of what Syla does would matter. He would just crash any transformation she has alongside her connection to the immaterial world and slaughter her in the real world.

Damn, ya know what, Syla is a running candidate for the biggest L too, she had:
-Time to prepare
-weird ass memory shenanigans
-Shitty anime background song
-Power of friendship

Embarrasing as fuck when you put it that way lol, maybe Ella had a point with the whole Body being stronger in the end.