Unity Completed Tomie Wants to Get Married Expansion [v1.3801] [Ollane]

[rezaf]

But I also want to say... make sure you think about things for yourself too. It's perfectly OK to disagree with people who provide feedback and you don't need to appease everyone.

Listen to the man, since most of his suggestions are actually rubbish.
Seriously though, most of the ideas sound reasonable, but some will drive the game further down a road it's already travelled down too far imo - namely the game being too formulaic, repetetive and ,quite frankly, boring.

In my opinion, the games biggest weakness is that it lacks proper characters.
Yes, some of the npcs at least go into this direction, especially the "love interests" (i.e. the guys you can marry), but even they are usually lacking, and it's especially bad for Tomies sisters and, worst of all, for Tomie herself.

Now, I do realize this is basically a glorified virtual boardgame, so it's unrealistic to expect too much, but still...
Right now, playing TWGM feels too much like an empty exercise in numbercrunching.
The entire skill system makes little sense, where you have to "buy" things like exhibitionsm with experience points.
Some improvements were made, now you can pick up more skills through ingame events such as the blind guy wanting to cross the street giving you grope resistance.
In my opinion it would be neccessary to rethink the entire approach to skills and traits - exhibitionism or submissive tendencies (humilation resistance in the game) would make more sense as traits, for example.

Anyway, there's probably a number of ways to achieve this, but Tomie should be a character actually representing her traits and "skills", acting on these "impulses" would be the easy thing as her corruption grows, "fighting them" would cost willpower, but giving in should also have negative ramifications. For example, fraternizing with the photographers after underwear shots could get her fired from the model agency, giving in to the cafe manager could cause her to lose the job, stuff like that.
But then there'd also have to be more things to cost money.

If you're reading this, I feel you already made a lot of progress in the last couple of versions ollane, just keep at it.
That said, one thing I really feel MUST be improved is that more things in the game should actually feed erotic/arousing.
In my current playthrough I've taken the habit of just skipping all H-Scenes, because they are boring anyway, and on top of that they run terribly sluggish on Android. Is that really a good thing for this type of game?

 

[ollane]

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Thanks for the good advice.
I feel it's the kind of advice I absolutely needed.

I could make this game much better if I remade it from scratch, but it seems that there are some parts that can't be helped as long as it's been done too much already.
I have a lot of worries right now, but I can't solve everything at once, so I am improving it little by little.

 

[rezaf]

That's exactly the right approach ollane.
Getting out regular updates is already something most developers struggle with, so that alone puts you way up there.
As someone with a developer background I'm sure you'll agree that it's a common notion for devs to want to start over and do everything better, but at this point I feel you have to live and stick with certain design and thematic decisions. Personally, I was surprised to see you add a whole different way of playing the game with the action points - doesn't it take way too much time to maintain these two modes simultaneously?
Anyway, you can always learn from your mistakes and make another game later. Just finishing something already gives you a massive amount of credibility, at least in my book.

 

[fakehb]

doesn't it take way too much time to maintain these two modes simultaneously?

You didn't ask me, but I've also been involved in projects with a lot of optional modes, and I think that really comes down to two things: how encapsulated the principles are, and the modularity of the codebase.

Assuming that the code isn't too spaghetti, and you have decent separation of concerns, something like having separate dice and AP-based modes isn't something that I would expect to substantially change things. It's a different way of consuming events, but you don't (or shouldn't) have any tendrils creeping from that into the events, or into the end-of-day sections, or into character development, or anything else. In that sense, why would it create additional pressure?

And of course, languages like C# (this game) and Java are generally better for avoiding bugs when you add complexity, by letting you focus on the OOP stuff while still providing a measure of safety. If you go lower level (eg. C++) you get to add the worry and complexity of pointers and memory management, while at a higher level (eg. Python) weak typing and name resolution starts to bite you as the project grows.

 

[rezaf]

fakehb: Thanks for your take, though I was aiming less at the mechanics of writing or maintaining the code and more about game design and balancing, like how to make sure there are equal opportunities in both modes.

Ollane: Also, a small bug report: When you go take the hymen regeneration, and opt out in the last moment by selecting return, the operation commences anyway but you are not charged any money for it.

 

[BryanZyr]

I could have missed it, but if I didn't another photo scene that you could add is with the MFF threesome through the prostitution app.
After the sex is finished, the guy would ask the girls to take a nude picture with him.
Tomie would then have the option to refuse, accept and cover her face or accept and show her face, doing a V sign for the camera

 

[ollane]

Ollane: Also, a small bug report: When you go take the hymen regeneration, and opt out in the last moment by selecting return, the operation commences anyway but you are not charged any money for it.

Thank you for report it will be fixed.

I could have missed it, but if I didn't another photo scene that you could add is with the MFF threesome through the prostitution app.
After the sex is finished, the guy would ask the girls to take a nude picture with him.
Tomie would then have the option to refuse, accept and cover her face or accept and show her face, doing a V sign for the camera

There seems to be a bug in the mff scene of the hookup app.
There is a problem with the connection part of the event. It will be fixed in the next version. sorry.

 

[BryanZyr]

oh it's bugged? No wonder I never saw it
But that's alright, just gotta wait for the update.

You know, I was still thinking about interesting things that could be added for the game, and I thought, how about having a morning routine were Tomie can check the internet on a laptop?
Right now, it could have mainly two functions, buy items online (so she doesn't need to travel to the mall) and another option would be for her to find a secret website were pictures of girls in Tome town are leaked. And if she had pictures of herself taken, she could see them there, maybe read the comments to see what people say. Or even yet, have an option for her to contact the person who posted the picture and ask them to remove it from the site, wich of course would lead to a blackmail scene were they demand sex in exchange of pulling the picture.

 

[Philjd]

Looking for some help please guys - Samdai, how do you get Miyaki's vote? Tried involving her with lunch's and also tried the opposite, and no one other than Naruto seems to have an option for additional information... hence ..... help

 

[ollane]

oh it's bugged? No wonder I never saw it
But that's alright, just gotta wait for the update.

You know, I was still thinking about interesting things that could be added for the game, and I thought, how about having a morning routine were Tomie can check the internet on a laptop?
Right now, it could have mainly two functions, buy items online (so she doesn't need to travel to the mall) and another option would be for her to find a secret website were pictures of girls in Tome town are leaked. And if she had pictures of herself taken, she could see them there, maybe read the comments to see what people say. Or even yet, have an option for her to contact the person who posted the picture and ask them to remove it from the site, wich of course would lead to a blackmail scene were they demand sex in exchange of pulling the picture.

Hahaha. Your imagination seems to be similar to me.
I'm just developing the part related to it.
There are some differences, but

Looking for some help please guys - Samdai, how do you get Miyaki's vote? Tried involving her with lunch's and also tried the opposite, and no one other than Naruto seems to have an option for additional information... hence ..... help

- Naturo proceeds by giving Tomie a letter of recommendation from the start.

- Hints related to Miyako
Sungold is the key player.

 

[Moussedo]

I don't know how to have the dr ending.

It's said that you can meet him in an elevator but where is this elevator ?
I dont find the event.

 

[8Mzr8]

You have to volunteer as a nurse and go there a few times

 

[Seanthiar]

I don't know how to have the dr ending.

It's said that you can meet him in an elevator but where is this elevator ?
I dont find the event.

In the hospital - You have to meet the flyer girl, read the advert about the job as a nurse, work as a nurse a few times and then you will meet the doc in the elevator after work. He will not ask you the first time you meet, but some day he will ask you. If think it is needed that you meet him as a patient before that time. If you want the ending with the doc you need to be a virgin (or got the operation to get the hymen fixed) and you need to be elegant and cultured.

 

[Moussedo]

In the hospital - You have to meet the flyer girl, read the advert about the job as a nurse, work as a nurse a few times and then you will meet the doc in the elevator after work. He will not ask you the first time you meet, but some day he will ask you. If think it is needed that you meet him as a patient before that time. If you want the ending with the doc you need to be a virgin (or got the operation to get the hymen fixed) and you need to be elegant and cultured.

Thank you
If I didn't find the event with nurse it's because I had an old version so far

 

[Rattanak]

if Tomie wanted to get married.. let Tomie get married... it's easy as that

 

[foofoo3344]

Tomie Wanna get married? Well, I just wanna turn Tomie into a thirsty nympho whore

 

[Frurose]

She wants to marry a rich guy, but keeps getting pregnant with neighbors, bums, and molesters.

 

[FdjsEre]

I've become a die-hard fan of this game.
The developer is a genius.
He has made my life better.

 

[Philjd]

Nightclub VIP invites - can anyone help me with how to trigger these please, as with all my playthroughs I have only ever had 1 of these?

 

[old spider]

Some things I've noticed pretty quick,

1. I got impregnated by neighbors anal
2. some events seem to occur (very)less often after 60 day, while some chains occur again, albeit after some focused encouragement.
3. despite the nerd peeing semen, I evaded an impregnation chance, lol (short lived celebration, lost to choi) (not bug report, just found it funny)
4. success rolls at the drunk gangsters still fail (20%) is this intended?

Some stuff I thought about, but take only as suggestion,

Some deepening corruption can be gated through eroding choices, for example; being molested at the train can give the option to willfully stop resisting, which can be picked several times, until she loses the option to resist/escape. which is then gated again at choosing to not skip the crowded train despite knowing the molestation chances are higher, this option stays active until the player succumbs to trying to be molested.​

But I'd really like a scenario like that on the sleep assault lol, where the corruption finally reaches a point where it's really consensual, so it wouldn't even need to be censored anymore. Of course it could then lead to degenerate endings, the branches possible at that point is still a lot. speaking of branches, its something I'd suggest with healthy moderation: too much and it takes too much work for short scenes, as well as being hard to follow, too little and it feels both "like it's linear" and "missed opportunities".​

I won't comment too much on the mismatches like the pantyshotter at the cafe regenerating her pantsu, or the panty buyer returning his loot for her next events (or maybe she brings a bag full of panties, I don't know), since I feel that they can just be relocated easily when the scenarios flesh out (I'm looking at you toilet scenes at the side of the road, as they don't really break immersion for me too much, as they look understandably/obviously like placeholders).​

But I do feel like some events need to be relatively escape-able, at least at the start of the chain. like the police harassers, as they occur too often and too unforgiving when they finally do, which is usually right after when you start triggering them too.​

I have also mostly been playing action point mode (since I needed more control in ending steering), so that might be relevant.​

Some minor stuff

Again, thank you for building this in Linux, I am reporting that everything is working as intended (the title warning seems cramped, but might be more of a resolution issue because I have small screen), and I am have problems with the thing I use to run windows programs again, so I feel the thankfulness a little extra right now.​

and sorry, because I've typed a lot of words again, and knowing that English isn't your native language, might take some pain to translate and interpret, even more so, considering that my way of speaking isn't too orthodox.​