VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

no cop or lawyer would maintain a friendship with someone with even tangential connections to drugs or prostitution, it would be career suicide, and that's before we even get to the problem of a doctor with a gangbanger husband.

Oh, you don't say, my man. It's true, I have a lot of friends in politics, but they wouldn't be friendly very long if they knew my business was drugs instead of gambling, which they regard as a – a harmless vice. But drugs is a dirty business.

 

[killed_kaykay]

Works fine for me. Do you have any errors or it just don't load the game at all?

It Doesn't load at all

 

[AntoniH13]

What the hell happened to this game?

As someone who played the original when it was first coming out, I can proudly say it was way more fun and engaging than the current version. While I do admit that the renders for the remake are vastly superior to the og, everything else kind of feels like a downgrade (Especially the story).

This feels like the dev is trying to make the story bigger than it really is. And don't even get me started on the update schedule. At least in the old game I understood everyone's position in the story. Katie was a little she-devil that was fun to provoke but was ultimately a sweet girl who acted out as a defence mechanism. The fact that she also had a crush on the mc but also had an inferiority complex because of the mc's focus on Leia added to her character. Hell, even og Zoey realized that she was into him the moment they met. Now remake Katie is kinda boring in comparison. Outside of some banter she's forgettable.

Miru has improved in some areas and somehow regressed in others. While her presence as the mc's gf in more notable, its concerning the amount of times she threatens physical violence on the mc when he says something that doesn't involve her. An example is the introduction of remake Dana. MC calls her jabba or fatty something as a joke between old friends. Then out of nowhere Miru comes in saying "Be grateful she took it as a joke or I'd break every bone in your body including your penis." like wtf? Where did that come from? Again, outside of her new design she doesn't have much going for her in terms of memorability.

Leia's character is weird. In the og she called the mc because of what happened to Helen but also used it as an excuse to get him back so that they could rekindle their past relationship. In the remake she doesn't even trust the mc so her calling him is completely random. And we don't even know if these two had a relationship in the past (which the og made clear very early on). Watching the og version strut and show off her dominace to the other girls made her memorable as she felt like a shark going after her prey (mc). Now outside of being angry with the mc and irritable about everything, her current version also isn't that compelling.

Not much to say about the mc except he seems so much more boring and somber now. OG counterpart was fun, relaxed and low-key a scumbag but very entertaining to watch. I mean he literally threw a cup a Katie in a bar from across the room for sh!ts and giggles, fought a racoon and got high in the woods!

As for poor Dana... This one hurts to much to even describe. Her old character was just so sweet and naive that it was actually endearing and made me root for her. Now she's a different person with the same name and different design.

In my opinion, the game has a lot of unnecessary drama.

 

[Nao-kun]

What the hell happened to this game?

As someone who played the original when it was first coming out, I can proudly say it was way more fun and engaging than the current version. While I do admit that the renders for the remake are vastly superior to the og, everything else kind of feels like a downgrade (Especially the story).

This feels like the dev is trying to make the story bigger than it really is. And don't even get me started on the update schedule. At least in the old game I understood everyone's position in the story. Katie was a little she-devil that was fun to provoke but was ultimately a sweet girl who acted out as a defence mechanism. The fact that she also had a crush on the mc but also had an inferiority complex because of the mc's focus on Leia added to her character. Hell, even og Zoey realized that she was into him the moment they met. Now remake Katie is kinda boring in comparison. Outside of some banter she's forgettable.

Miru has improved in some areas and somehow regressed in others. While her presence as the mc's gf in more notable, its concerning the amount of times she threatens physical violence on the mc when he says something that doesn't involve her. An example is the introduction of remake Dana. MC calls her jabba or fatty something as a joke between old friends. Then out of nowhere Miru comes in saying "Be grateful she took it as a joke or I'd break every bone in your body including your penis." like wtf? Where did that come from? Again, outside of her new design she doesn't have much going for her in terms of memorability.

Leia's character is weird. In the og she called the mc because of what happened to Helen but also used it as an excuse to get him back so that they could rekindle their past relationship. In the remake she doesn't even trust the mc so her calling him is completely random. And we don't even know if these two had a relationship in the past (which the og made clear very early on). Watching the og version strut and show off her dominace to the other girls made her memorable as she felt like a shark going after her prey (mc). Now outside of being angry with the mc and irritable about everything, her current version also isn't that compelling.

Not much to say about the mc except he seems so much more boring and somber now. OG counterpart was fun, relaxed and low-key a scumbag but very entertaining to watch. I mean he literally threw a cup a Katie in a bar from across the room for sh!ts and giggles, fought a racoon and got high in the woods!

As for poor Dana... This one hurts to much to even describe. Her old character was just so sweet and naive that it was actually endearing and made me root for her. Now she's a different person with the same name and different design.

That's what I've said before. The game didn't need a remake.

But after playing the game, I changed my mind. The OG was lacking in a lot of things. The New game made it better in terms of story-making and dialogue. It makes them more interesting and alive. The OG was bland now that I think about it.

 

[risky0]

It's a ntr/etc... focussed game.
The dialogues and characters in the game are completely designed accordingly.
If you turn off Ntr, you'll probably miss more than half of the content in the future.
Probably the game will have 3 main sexual routes ntr-sharing/swinger-love.
In any new update, this means that you will only be able to play one third of the content.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It's a ntr/etc... focussed game.
The dialogues and characters in the game are completely designed accordingly.
If you turn off Ntr, you'll probably miss more than half of the content in the future.
Probably the game will have 3 main sexual routes ntr-sharing/swinger-love.
In any new update, this means that you will only be able to play one third of the content.

This is objectively wrong. If I hadn't just deleted the game after finishing the playthrough to save hdd space I would link a screenshot of searching through the script files by "if $ntrToggleVariable".

I had done that when I was trying to find the conditions for the MiruNtr03Continue scene, and there's very few condition checks.

 

[EdPokol]

I had done that when I was trying to find the conditions for the MiruNtr03Continue scene, and there's very few condition checks.

To play the Miru Restroom scene (which leads to MiruNtr3x0Continue) you need to have switched NTR on in the beginning of the game. Also MC needs to be open to an open relationship and Miru needs to be horny enough.

 

[JohnDoeAnimeFan]

Couple of questions:

What kind of incest does this game have?
What is the pregnancy content?
I see that you can turn it off but just curios what kind of NTR content does this game have?
Is this game connected to Summer's Gone and if yes do I need to play that game first?

 

[Mortarion]

Couple of questions:

What kind of incest does this game have?

Well, official none because patreon ToS...
With the patch, we have to see hoe the game goes, possible is mom/son, brother/sister, ...
... from what the cast offers, all possibilities should be open...

What is the pregnancy content?

In the reworked version is actually no pregnancy content, the tag refers to the old version of WIAB - the version we are no longer talking about and should not be mentioned anymore

I see that you can turn it off but just curios what kind of NTR content does this game have?

Actually just a little bit of tame boob foundling, but according to some dialogs some wierd/disgusting stuff is possible in the future.

Is this game connected to Summer's Gone and if yes do I need to play that game first?

From the timeline WIAB plays before SG. But SG is more popular, WIAB has the NTR tag and this is cash poison...

 

[NebulousShooter]

Yeah the plot is very... unusual. Its like a goofy sitcom sometimes with how ridiculous things are. But I don't mind tbh. I find it fun which is the most important part.

Yeah, but I am not so sure its what he is going for. To me he is trying to make this the more serious of his games.

 

[Joshy92]

Yeah, but I am not so sure its what he is going for. To me he is trying to make this the more serious of his games.

To me ocean's games feel more like one of those shitty CW shows dialogue wise
You know where all the characters act like they are cringy teens
Or try to act all tough.

 

[NebulousShooter]

dialogue.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

To me ocean's games feel more like one of those shitty CW shows dialogue wise
You know where all the characters act like they are cringy teens
Or try to act all tough.

Tbh, I don't get that vibe from SG even though they are cringy teens but I do agree almost all of the WIAB cast acts like cringy teens.

 

[Joshy92]

Tbh, I don't get that vibe from SG even though they are cringy teens but I do agree almost all of the WIAB cast acts like cringy teens.

Honestly, I was mostly talking about SG when making my last comment because I haven't played this for a while
So, I have forgotten most of it

But my goodness I hate the mc in SG.
He was what made me stop playing.
Well that & I didn't like the writing.

I'm still keeping this on my radar at the moment though for the possible sharing in the future.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Honestly, I was mostly talking about SG when making my last comment because I haven't played this for a while
So, I have forgotten most of it

But my goodness I hate the mc in SG.
He was what made me stop playing.
Well that & I didn't like the writing.

I'm still keeping this on my radar at the moment though for the possible sharing in the future.

Both MCs have this pseudo philosopher/Psychologist 5D chess master planner, where they explain their carefully crafted plans in manipulating people in the most ridiculously convoluted ways. But I don't know if it reminds me of CW shows, or more about shitty anime tropes where everyone is so cool.

@ whoever used Miru potential backstory as ex Yakuza as a reason for why she is ok with the drug lab, I think you don't realize but you are weakening your point, its because she has a past like that she should know how fucking dangerous and stupid is screwing with rival gangs and corrupt politicians. Instead its played like a good ol' joke where Miru is so amused by the situation and gives them advice to the drug lab people about growing weed

 

[Joshy92]

Both MCs have this pseudo philosopher/Psychologist 5D chess master planner, where they explain their carefully crafted plans in manipulating people in the most ridiculously convoluted ways. But I don't know if it reminds me of CW shows, or more about shitty anime tropes where everyone is cool.

@ whoever used Miru potential backstory as ex Yakuza as a reason for why she is ok with the drug lab, I think you don't realize but you are weakening your point, its because she has a past like that she should know how fucking dangerous and stupid is screwing with rival gangs and corrupt politicians. Instead its played like a good ol' joke where Miru is so amused by the situation and gives them advice to the drug lab people about growing weed

You make good points.

When I do play this again, I think I'll just focus on seeing penises going into vaginas.
And try not to focus on the story or whatever because otherwise I'll just get annoyed again.

 

[Badboll]

I'll wait for the complete chapter to come out, if I'm not mistaken, more scenes will be added in the complete chapter.

It's been over a year and he's still not back to where he was pre rework.
This game sure has potential, but it's not being realized fast enough.

 

[JohnDoeAnimeFan]

Well, official none because patreon ToS...
With the patch, we have to see hoe the game goes, possible is mom/son, brother/sister, ...
... from what the cast offers, all possibilities should be open...



In the reworked version is actually no pregnancy content, the tag refers to the old version of WIAB - the version we are no longer talking about and should not be mentioned anymore



Actually just a little bit of tame boob foundling, but according to some dialogs some wierd/disgusting stuff is possible in the future.



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From the timeline WIAB plays before SG. But SG is more popular, WIAB has the NTR tag and this is cash poison...

Cool thanks for answering my questions. That sucks about the removal of pregnacy content though.

 

[yossa999]

I think I understand what the Ocean was trying to show and why it seems cringe to some people.

Sometimes, when I meet my old buddies whom I have known for a couple of decades, we can also sound cringe to others because we talk and joke about things that others simply do not understand. They do not share common memories and adventures with us, so a phrase that sounds like some kind of nonsense to strangers, for us means a hyperlink to an event in the past which we all participated and to the emotions that we felt at the same time. And we also have “our own” words, such as bibi, which sound strange to others, but are absolutely natural in our small group, since we used them as teenagers.

And by the way, Ocean seems to be perfectly aware that those “bibi” and “wormy” sounds weird, but he uses them deliberately. In SG, for example, when the MC calls Bella a bibi, she also looks at him with the WTF face and he has to explain to her what that means.

It's the same with WIAB: most of the characters have known the others for ages, only Miru seems to be new to their group. So they act towards each other as if they are still those teenagers who did all those pranks that they remember the whole chapter. I really like how this is portrayed in the game and I understand why the characters behave and talk this way.

 

[Mortarion]

Cool thanks for answering my questions. That sucks about the removal of pregnacy content though.

Well, it's not set in stone that all preggo content is removed from the game, it's still early in the game to get to this point - it would make no sense at moment in the game if William could be runn around and breed what he wants.