VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[LHDLLB]

Before it was much more muted, more like a henna thing, but we couldn't see much, maybe she was half way through and now is unhappy that it's so colourful and she can't go back?

My guess is she's unhappy with whatever went on with Kat. Simple, she found out Kat skipped college, difficult, she walked in on Kat and William.

I don't know, it always stood out to me but maybe Ocean trinked with it. That is a good guess but the house does not seems like the Zane house, the courtines are Pink, not that it matters really but seems a new environment and the Kat scene looked like the Zane house

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't know, it always stood out to me but maybe Ocean trinked with it. That is a good guess but the house does not seems like the Zane house, the courtines are Pink, not that it matters really but seems a new environment and the Kat scene looked like the Zane house

No matter where it is, she could explode at William for messing with Kat, simply because. But yeah, it could be many things. If it's a court house, maybe a parole hearing for Joe? Or something? That would make sense based on William not having had enough time to get in trouble. But who knows?

 

[LHDLLB]

No matter where it is, she could explode at William for messing with Kat, simply because. But yeah, it could be many things. If it's a court house, maybe a parole hearing for Joe? Or something? That would make sense based on William not having had enough time to get in trouble. But who knows?

I agree, does not really matters. I thought of a Church at first, the seats reminded me of one, but seems unlikely. Court house, maybe but the cortines just looks like a house for me, and I think last devlog showed Miru in this enviroment too.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I agree, does not really matters. I thought of a Church at first, the seats reminded me of one, but seems unlikely. Court house, maybe but the cortines just looks like a house for me, and I think last devlog showed Miru in this enviroment too.

Ah right gotcha, I only thought of the court because of your word, silly mistake of mine. We've not seen the breakfast room William and Katie have breakfast on their own in either, could be it's Leia's house, could be it's a different room we've not seen yet, could be Scarlett's house, there's not much to make of it. If that's Dylan or maybe (lucas?) behind, he's not dressed up though.

 

[LHDLLB]

Ah right gotcha, I only thought of the court because of your word, silly mistake of mine. We've not seen the breakfast room William and Katie have breakfast on their own in either, could be it's Leia's house, could be it's a different room we've not seen yet, could be Scarlett's house, there's not much to make of it. If that's Dylan or maybe (lucas?) behind, he's not dressed up though.

Seems like Dylan to me - too thin to be Lucas at least - yeah, there is no point in trying to guess where they are. I find the fist preview much more interesting but also does not tell much beside Leia doing Leia things

 

[Lorenz1]

So... anyone good with numbers to figure out how those extra renders convert into development time?

 

[slackster]

So if Ocean was doing on average 30 renders/day on the old workstation as mentioned in the devlog he should already be at well over 11k renders for both games already

 

[talan12321]

The discord invite link don't work?

 

[TheDuke9999]

aww man did anybody play the update yet. i hope its as good as the last one . i love this VN

 

[tydog99]

Ocean is slower than DPC and working on two games at once is really dragging both down

 

[dan_roger69]

Ocean is slower than DPC and working on two games at once is really dragging both down

Don't think of WIAB and SG as two games. They are just one game but created as two separate games. Without WIAB there would be no SG.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

Don't think of WIAB and SG as two games. They are just one game but created as two separate games. Without WIAB there would be no SG.

They are 2 games in the same universe...

 

[fluxxd1]

Ocean is slower than DPC and working on two games at once is really dragging both down

i mean theres a massive render quality difference, no shit hes slower

 

[NebulousShooter]

i mean theres a massive render quality difference, no shit hes slower

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Ocean is the better artist, no doubt, but in actual render quality the gap isn't as big as people like to pretend, since hardware does most of the heavy lifting, the better the hardware the more HD options you can turn on in DAZ/Blender.

Times are catching up to Ocean, more and more devs are coming up new games with graphics close to his level, or imo better(Summer Heat, Beach Glass etc)

 

[hahequ]

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Ocean is the better artist, no doubt, but in actual render quality the gap isn't as big as people like to pretend, since hardware does most of the heavy lifting, the better the hardware the more HD options you can turn on in DAZ/Blender.

Times are catching up to Ocean, more and more devs are coming up new games with graphics close to his level, or imo better(Summer Heat, Beach Glass etc)

yesnt, you can obviously get on the same lvl just by upgrading hardware and being able to render stuff in 4k and higher but there is still things like angles/perspective/colors/lighting which play a huge role to create a very cinematic feel/image
and artists that can get all those things right are very rare

 

[Maviarab]

yesnt, you can obviously get on the same lvl just by upgrading hardware and being able to render stuff in 4k and higher but there is still things like angles/perspective/colors/lighting which play a huge role to create a very cinematic feel/image
and artists that can get all those things right are very rare

This. While there are a lot now doing good renders, when it comes to mood and lighting, Ocean is still cinematically miles ahead of anyone.

He's the Christopher Doyle of AVN's at the moment.

 

[HarryDubois420]

This. While there are a lot now doing good renders, when it comes to mood and lighting, Ocean is still cinematically miles ahead of anyone.

He's the Christopher Doyle of AVN's at the moment.

Exactly. Ocean's cinematic approach is what's keeping him unique. While others try to emulate real life pov into their scenes, ocean emulates body language and cinematic lighting in his renders to tell his stories. Many have tried to do it but they end up being too expressive and Anime-esque. Ocean knows his shit ngl.

 

[FAEN1134]

AVN dev moment
>If I can get more powerful gpu I can render much faster
>gets more powerful gpu
>releases he can put more polygon
>shits became even slower

 

[RNasc4444]

This. While there are a lot now doing good renders, when it comes to mood and lighting, Ocean is still cinematically miles ahead of anyone.

He's the Christopher Doyle of AVN's at the moment.

I don't have the knowledge or experience to state otherwise because my collection of games played is tiny compared to most of you guys's but still I'm hesitant to take you at your word. I don't doubt Ocean is near the top but "miles ahead of anyone else" is hard to believe.

Just looking at Enyo Eerie's game, for example, that was abandoned over 2 years ago and was at at insane level of quality at the time. I can only imagine where he'd be right now if the development had continued. There must be plenty of similar examples of devs who are incredibly skilled, technically speaking. Is there really no one that stands at Ocean's level?

 

[yossa999]

I don't have the knowledge or experience to state otherwise because my collection of games played is tiny compared to most of you guys's but still I'm hesitant to take you at your word. I don't doubt Ocean is near the top but "miles ahead of anyone else" is hard to believe.

Just looking at Enyo Eerie's game, for example, that was abandoned over 2 years ago and was at at insane level of quality at the time. I can only imagine where he'd be right now if the development had continued. There must be plenty of similar examples of devs who are incredibly skilled, technically speaking. Is there really no one that stands at Ocean's level?

This really stands at offtopic, which moderators will delete if you continue it in the on-topic game thread. But in a nutshell, there are already a noticable number of developers who make individual renders no worse, at least in my amateurish opinion. But all together - composition, cinematics, details, music - no, I don't know who is better.
EDIT: Okay, maybe I know a guy or two whose work I would consider on par without any reservations.