VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Silent_Dreamer]

It was the same with Nicole and Nora where could only choose to go with one of them in Episode 10 (I think it was?).

Although Nora's path was pretty non-existent in Chapter 11, except for literally one screen that had Nora and the MC look at each other in Chemistry class. So not sure if Nora's still going to be around or her breaking up was permanent.

That's the thing. Nora is not tied with any other girl. Lily clearly mentioned she doesn't want to upset Nicole and Nicole is not someone who is keen on having an open relationship.

 

[Chillout1984]

It's not something we need to know really. People do become friends there doesn't need to be Rhyme or Reason to it...

Granted there is something fishy about a 36 year old being friends with a college girl, but they could have met at yoga, in a library or more likely a handling loss group.

I disagree that we don't need to know it, seeing how DPC likes to write his storylines like a soap opera including common twists. A personal history like this is almost always important to go into detail to.

 

[BobBobb]

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To me in general it's pretty weird that they continue to be friends considering they are all rivals.
Not to mention the dumbest thing I've seen is Josy continuing to be good friends with the other girls considering MC dumped her and Maya for Sage or Jill.
“I know he chose you and dumped me right at the party, but what can you do, he follows his heart. So let's just forget it and move on as friends.”
WTF? Didn't DPC brag about his excellent knowledge of female psychology.

You'd suprised how many group of friends are formed irl by females who had an shared expirience with a guy.

 

[Chillout1984]

You'd suprised how many group of friends are formed irl by females who had an shared expirience with a guy.

Yeah, I've watched quite a few talkshows in the past about this, about groups of women that bonden together because the same guy wronged them. Usually it didn't happen that the guy still was in a relationship with 1 of them though.

 

[Lagunavii]

I disagree that we don't need to know it, seeing how DPC likes to write his storylines like a soap opera including common twists. A personal history like this is almost always important to go into detail to.

While I don't disagree that there may be something that ties them together that is linked to both Bella's locked room and Jill's loss of her sister and for story reasons we are probably going to find out.

But in general, we don't generally need to know why characters are friends. Regardless of circumstances people do meet people.

 

[Chillout1984]

Talking about soap opera plot twist: If it is true that Quinn somehow also is connected (no not necesseraliy family, I already hear the complaints) to Bella (going with Chalk's theory, why else would she go to Bella?), that could also explain why Quinn uses her library regularly for deals. Even if Bella doesn't agree with it, she might give Quinn a pass for it.

 

[jaxofalltrades]

To me in general it's pretty weird that they continue to be friends considering they are all rivals.
Not to mention the dumbest thing I've seen is Josy continuing to be good friends with the other girls considering MC dumped her and Maya for Sage or Jill.
“I know he chose you and dumped me right at the party, but what can you do, he follows his heart. So let's just forget it and move on as friends.”
WTF? Didn't DPC brag about his excellent knowledge of female psychology.

That's only if you fuck around with all of them and then break their hearts. If you get off their paths earlier and just focus on one (or just the SGs) it's not as weird. Sure Josy is clingy in her crush regardless of whether you follow the MJ path or not but she's scared of being alone so its not too far fetched that she'd want to be friends with the other MGs regardless of the MC's choices (but agree it makes more sense when you don't try for more with MJ). So the problem with this group of friends being canon is that it's weird on the full on manwhore route.

The escalation, insane and not credible, occurred the day before the mission from Patrick.

Studying together, in the library..., and attending a performance are normal activities that do not need special construction.

What happens next much less, simplifies dpc work, give us fan service, and we accept it.

The "escalation" of the group wasn't the day before the mission...Halloween is like a month before Thanksgiving when they are really starting to come together. If you consider the planning meeting in the library to be the escalation, that's like a week or so after Halloween. I'll admit we're supposed to just assume that they all continue to interact off screen in the weeks between Halloween and Thanksgiving, and off screen stuff can make relationships seem less credible since we don't see it. If you're talking about the Avengers assemble scene before they leave for Patrick's, that's the day of Thanksgiving since B&R isn't that far from the house. While that scene can come off as a little much, showing Maya support isn't insane. Jill hates bullying and Patrick was bullying Maya for being a lesbian. Bella's an adult and while she can be aloof, she's not a cold hearted bitch that she wouldn't want to show Maya support now that she knows what's up (plus she usually has Thanksgiving with Jill anyway). Josy would come to support Maya even with their crumbling relationship. Sage is either coming with to Patrick's or shows support because she still feels bad about Stephen denying Maya help.

The normal activities legitimize the friendship starting to grow between Jill, Josy and Maya (and then Bella) before ep 9. Plus, the MC has internal monologues about this growing group of friends during both the studying and greeting Jill after her performance so I think they're special enough events to note for the group bonding.

But I agree it's a handy plot device to simplify the work needed for all the branching. And while not perfect, I just don't see how the 5 MGs all becoming friends comes out of left field to some people. It was fairly easy to tell that's where DPC was heading.

 

[NewTricks]

Everybody trying to understand why the girls remain tight against all logic and reason I leave you with the wise words of the great philosopher Albert Bundy.

 

[felicemastronzo]

You'd suprised how many group of friends are formed irl by females who had an shared expirience with a guy.

One in a million, maybe less. Then there are so many situations: it's one thing if they are already friends and decide to get over it (Jill and Bella for example) , it's another thing if they are girls who want to understand why they were left.

But girls who celebrate in their underwear with their boyfriend and his exes in my opinion there are fewer than honest politicians

 

[Chalk boss]

That's only if you fuck around with all of them and then break their hearts. If you get off their paths earlier and just focus on one (or just the SGs) it's not as weird. Sure Josy is clingy in her crush regardless of whether you follow the MJ path or not but she's scared of being alone so its not too far fetched that she'd want to be friends with the other MGs regardless of the MC's choices (but agree it makes more sense when you don't try for more with MJ). So the problem with this group of friends being canon is that it's weird on the full on manwhore route.

You know, it's even funnier on the Sage and Jill branch.
Sage: Zoey is your ex-girlfriend, stop talking to her, it's disrespectful to me. Maybe I should start hanging out with Chad again.
MC: Josy's my ex-girlfriend too.
Sage:...

Talking about soap opera plot twist: If it is true that Quinn somehow also is connected (no not necesseraliy family, I already hear the complaints) to Bella (going with Chalk's theory, why else would she go to Bella?), that could also explain why Quinn uses her library regularly for deals. Even if Bella doesn't agree with it, she might give Quinn a pass for it.

Bella is Quinn's mother, and Quinn's father was the very same James!
An unexpected twist in the spirit of the best soap operas from Argentina and Brazil!

I guess DPС just thought it was better to do drug deals in a crowded place with cameras and nerds.
I don't think Quinn and Bella know each other. Quinn was just looking into Buddy's background and found out he was involved in Lana's death. Maybe she knows Lana's boyfriend and got in touch with him. Maybe she talks to him at the end.
Although I'm confused that Quinn decided to act on December 25th.

 

[Chillout1984]

You know, it's even funnier on the Sage and Jill branch.
Sage: Zoey is your ex-girlfriend, stop talking to her, it's disrespectful to me. Maybe I should start hanging out with Chad again.
MC: Josy's my ex-girlfriend too.
Sage:...



Bella is Quinn's mother, and Quinn's father was the very same James!
An unexpected twist in the spirit of the best soap operas from Argentina and Brazil!

I guess DPС just thought it was better to do drug deals in a crowded place with cameras and nerds.
I don't think Quinn and Bella know each other. Quinn was just looking into Buddy's background and found out he was involved in Lana's death. Maybe she knows Lana's boyfriend and got in touch with him. Maybe she talks to him at the end.
Although I'm confused that Quinn decided to act on December 25th.

That still wouldn't explain why Quinn would go to Bella's house though, unless Lana's boyfriend knows that Jill is good friends with Bella.

Even if she called Sage, you would think she would meet up at the hospital, hots house or somewhere public instead of visiting Bella's house on her own.

 

[felicemastronzo]

That's only if you fuck around with all of them and then break their hearts. If you get off their paths earlier and just focus on one (or just the SGs) it's not as weird. Sure Josy is clingy in her crush regardless of whether you follow the MJ path or not but she's scared of being alone so its not too far fetched that she'd want to be friends with the other MGs regardless of the MC's choices (but agree it makes more sense when you don't try for more with MJ). So the problem with this group of friends being canon is that it's weird on the full on manwhore route.


The "escalation" of the group wasn't the day before the mission...Halloween is like a month before Thanksgiving when they are really starting to come together. If you consider the planning meeting in the library to be the escalation, that's like a week or so after Halloween. I'll admit we're supposed to just assume that they all continue to interact off screen in the weeks between Halloween and Thanksgiving, and off screen stuff can make relationships seem less credible since we don't see it. If you're talking about the Avengers assemble scene before they leave for Patrick's, that's the day of Thanksgiving since B&R isn't that far from the house. While that scene can come off as a little much, showing Maya support isn't insane. Jill hates bullying and Patrick was bullying Maya for being a lesbian. Bella's an adult and while she can be aloof, she's not a cold hearted bitch that she wouldn't want to show Maya support now that she knows what's up (plus she usually has Thanksgiving with Jill anyway). Josy would come to support Maya even with their crumbling relationship. Sage is either coming with to Patrick's or shows support because she still feels bad about Stephen denying Maya help.

The normal activities legitimize the friendship starting to grow between Jill, Josy and Maya (and then Bella) before ep 9. Plus, the MC has internal monologues about this growing group of friends during both the studying and greeting Jill after her performance so I think they're special enough events to note for the group bonding.

But I agree it's a handy plot device to simplify the work needed for all the branching. And while not perfect, I just don't see how the 5 MGs all becoming friends comes out of left field to some people. It was fairly easy to tell that's where DPC was heading.

Yes I was referring to the assembled avengers, I wrote day but I meant the scene before the mission . At that time nobody but Derek knows about Patrick's abuse. Sage probably knows more about Maya's situation, but Jill and Bella there is no reason to think they know much about it. It is all extremely forced and blatant. Starting with the mission itself in that they already know that Maya has no loan in her name.

Do Jill and Bella serve as legal advisors? In the end they just repeat what they had said before

 

[BobBobb]

One in a million, maybe less. Then there are so many situations: it's one thing if they are already friends and decide to get over it (Jill and Bella for example) , it's another thing if they are girls who want to understand why they were left.

But girls who celebrate in their underwear with their boyfriend and his exes in my opinion there are fewer than honest politicians

One in a million is still bigger odd than the chances of getting in a throuple with a lesbian, yet here we are. Friendship between the 5 MG is set on stone ( a bit forced imo ) but i've seen people do even dumber shit than the portrayed in the game tbh especially around/for the person they like, add we are talking about mostly girls in their early 20s and you got the disaster served. The Sage/Jill scene does make sense from a female perspective. Sage: hey i know i fucked your BF but watch out for that blue haired bitch, i almost kissed him last night but i was dizzy haha also MC please stick with this new GF you got instead of running back to your first love.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Honestly, I wish Josy just told Sage she knew about Chad a long time ago, or MC told Sage shortly after taking about it with Josy. Obviously in that discussion context for being "the beard" it'd probably not go well, but in other circumstances I don't think it'd be a problem. Sage knows Josy is also in a secret homosexual relationship, so can probably assume she can understand not gossiping about it.

In any case, it's better left to Sage, not MC talking about it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Yeah, this blowing up in our faces is one of the reasons I'm so disappointed in this episode.
Felt so bad that I jumped ship for Zoey at the end, though I realize this is going to make Sages worst fears about MC visiting his Ex a reality. Not looking forward to seeing how that plays out in the next episode at all.

Are you disappointed in the episode because you are facing the consequences of MC's stupid decisions? No guys, this is not a game where you can do whatever you want and not get anything bad.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Are you disappointed in the episode because you are facing the consequences of MC's stupid decisions? No guys, this is not a game where you can do whatever you want and not get anything bad.
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Flirting with Jade is not lethal. The problem is the ending of chapter 4

 

[Chillout1984]

Are you disappointed in the episode because you are facing the consequences of MC's stupid decisions? No guys, this is not a game where you can do whatever you want and not get anything bad.
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At least in this game we seem to have a possibility to avoid (some) disastrous events, which wasn't the case in DPC's last game.
Now we can just choose for the carnage to happen if we want to

Although we still need to wait how Zoey will take the rejection if you choose to do so, but my guess is she will be at least semi-chill about it and will not go full Leah.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Flirting with Jade is not lethal. The problem is the ending of chapter 4

Showing video to Derek decision? It's making it worse, but anyway agreeing to Jade's scene in Ep3 should turn Sage's route into MC's guilt trip? Or not, because I didn't have the option to get just a handjob and cut it down, I was with her until the end of Ep8

Although we still need to wait how Zoey will take the rejection if you choose to do so, but my guess is she will be at least semi-chill about it and will not go full Leah.

That's what I hope for, I don't want her to go full Josy mode, putting pressure on MC and take rejection with head held high in Ep.12

 

[Chillout1984]

Flirting with Jade is not lethal. The problem is the ending of chapter 4

Flirting with Jade can still be lethal to the Sage relationship though (since that is what Geralt means looking at his mean).
Even if you don't leak the video, MC will still be guilt-driven and we notice that throught the entirety of episode 11.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Showing video to Derek decision? It's making it worse, but anyway agreeing to Jade's scene in Ep3 should turn Sage's route into MC's guilt trip? Or not, because I didn't have the option to get just a handjob and cut it down, I was with her until the end of Ep8


That's what I hope for, I don't want her to go full Josy mode, putting pressure on MC and take rejection with head held high in Ep.12

Not the video. If we stay at the flirtation in the classroom there is some guilt mc confronts Jade and it seems to end there. Including declaration of love.

The important thing is not to have sex with Jade.