VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Nowhere did I say Sage is not a priority to Tremolo. Zoey is still an important part of his life, that he wants to continue based on this text exchange. What their friendship will look like going forward is a mystery at this point.

But despite the exchange Tremolo has with Sage about Zoey the first time, & despite potentially saying I love you to Sage, he still wants to be friends with Zoey. That is a fact. The reality is what Tremolo sent in the text. What happens from there is yet to be determined.

you clearly imply that. MC has to hide what happened to Sage in order to “defend” Zoey. which means giving priority to Zoey

it is very unlikely that Sage will not ask him about how the party went, and not telling her what happened is like lying

 

[felianMDR]

Zoey is his past

Sage is his future
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also we was preparing Sage to this. ufc fight Sage vs Zoey. or some WWE shit so Sage could use guitar as weapon.

 

[hitman2511]

Normally i am a sucker for childhood friends but fuck the smurf i don't give a shit about her.

 

[FalconLover420]

I think the whole mc doing something and its canon is a flawed argument.

Personally, I believe that DPC just doesn't know what to make the MC do.

Because if you think about it, anything without the player's input, the MC is a sensitive coward. An example after fighting the jocks, he starts saying he regrets fighting them and wallows for a few dialogue sentences.

Anyways the MC has to tell sage what happens because one, they are in a relationship and two its something that sage needs to know whats up. Remember she says that she doesn't trust zoey intentions and she is right about that.

 

[felianMDR]

Normally i am a sucker for childhood friends but fuck the smurf i don't give a shit about her.

true. I actually don't like this all Zoey route at all. it so forced. I just tell her fk off every time I can. and still we here...

 

[SirDawcio]

As people said before (including me): Zoey will go full Leah on B&R

Inspired by your comment, question to people who tried both, is there a lot of difference for DIK and CHICK Zoey?

I play my MC DIK but choose for Zoey to be more CHICK to even things out and I'm curious now

 

[Chillout1984]

Inspired by your comment, question to people who tried both, is there a lot of difference for DIK and CHICK Zoey?

I play my MC DIK but choose for Zoey to be more CHICK to even things out and I'm curious now

The main difference is that DIK Zoey is more bitchy and cares more about herself than MC and his current relationship, while CHICK Zoey is more to herself and more sympathetic:

Example 1:
CHICK Zoey
zo "But now you know where I stand."
zo "I'm sorry you'd have to hurt someone to be with me. But I don't want to have any more regrets about us."
zo "I know I want this. And it feels so good to finally say it out loud to you."
DIK Zoey
zo "But now you know where I stand. And it feels so good to finally say it out loud to you."

Example 2:
mc "I'm... I'm in a relationship..."
DIK Zoey:
zo "I don't care."
zo "Pick me."
zo "[name]... Pick me."
CHICK Zoey:
Zo: *says nothing*

 

[dontehall2023]

you clearly imply that. MC has to hide what happened to Sage in order to “defend” Zoey. which means giving priority to Zoey

it is very unlikely that Sage will not ask him about how the party went, and not telling her what happened is like lying

That's an opinion by you. Tremolo wishes to continue being friends with Zoey (canon). Tell a woman that your ex-girlfriend / childhood friend confessed her love to you. And you still want to be friends with her despite that confession. Even if you rejected her advances. See how well that conversation is going to go for you. And if you think it's going to be a nice heart to heart where everyone gets what they want. I'd speculate you don't know women. Coupled with the fact the in all likelihood Zoey is going to be going to B&R in the spring. Should be a fun conversation with Sage.

I'm not saying I want to be friends with Zoey. Tremolo wants to still be friends with Zoey. This is out of the player's hands. You have no choice in the matter. And until the next episode is released, we won't know what that friendship will look like.

My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.

 

[grarg]

This! Nailed it. I couldn't have put it better.
With Sage, it's all about communicating with her and being honest. I think he needs to say about Zoey and that Sage's concerns were justified.

How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.

 

[Chillout1984]

My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.

We do know however that Tremolo wants (when it comes to Sage) to keep his secrets despite it gnawing on his conscience. Imo it's best to just rip the band-aid off while the relationship is still fresh and the secret is recent, rather than hoping it will never come out (and trust me, sooner or later almost every secret will somehow come out).

 

[Chillout1984]

How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.

The huge difference is that all other girls that flirt with him don't have such a deep connection with MC. It's pretty clear MC wants Zoey to be his Best friend/2nd best friend (depending on what you tell Derek) again, and that can create massive complications. MC wouldn't care because he's happy with Sage, but Sage would still care about Zoey's feelings, especially if Zoey will keep on acting on it.

 

[FalconLover420]

How were they justified?

She said that his ex would know how to push his buttons. That she didn't trust her. But she did trust MC.

MC didn't accept Zoey. Sage was right about Zoey...but nothing happened!
MC loves Sage. Sage was right about the MC.
Sage loves MC. MC was right about Sage, and she had feelings for him last Episode.

End of conflict. Time for next conflict.

I'm sure many other girls will flirt and like MC, and declare it or just grab the guy, like Camila, Josy, etc. It means nothing, because Sage and MC are in love. They trust each other. They know what lifestyle they lead, parties they go to, and who they interact with. Sage may not like or dislike some girls, but that's nothing new. You outright reject women at the panty party at multiple occasions. Do we tell her about Mia, Erin, Clara, or Becky? Felicia, Charlotte and Leanne kisses? How about hugging Tara?

Do we need Sage to tell us about all the guys/girls that hit on her every week? No, we trust she can handle it, because the MC loves her.
-Unless she has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option (with a girl).
Does Sage need to be told about all the girls that hit on MC every week? No, she trusts he can handle it, because she loves him.
-Unless he has a funny story to tell, or a potential threesome option.

Because it's going to be a weekly event with the MC.

MC: "Hey Sage. Tara/Tiffani/Riona/Melanie/Sarah/some of the Rose strippers/etc....all wanted to get into my pants. 5 wanted to kiss me, 2 wanted my babies, I got 1 confessing their love to me, and 1 marriage proposal."
Sage: "Cool. I think it's time we gave Mel a ride..."

That's it.

It's not:
Sage: "OMG Sandy tried to hump you? And you tell me now? That was 0.49 days ago!"

This is nothing in comparison to the Jade issue, and that isn't even MC's fault.

This is such a theoretical, nothing issue.

Who cares about Zoey? Answer: nobody. Not even Sage, because she already dealt with that. And so did we.

The thing is its not so much about Sage and its more about the MC.

An example is Heather situation, he got the blowjob on Halloween and he blurts out to Tommy that he got that blowjob as well with not inquiries to him. Of course Tommy would be pissed about that.

Now imagine with Sage, she already knows that she can't trust zoey to be around the MC and tells the MC about it. He shrugs that concern off and say its just a friend, and it wasnt just a friend.

So eventually something comes around concerning zoey, the MC dumb as he is will blurt out about Zoey confessing to him which will make Sage be like I told you so and probably get a bit pissed or anxious but then will ask how you feel about it.

 

[BigTTiger]

Bonus point if her actual boyfriend was a restaurant customer

I know not of what you speak of sir I plead the fifth of Jack hehe

 

[grarg]

My point that I have reiterated over & over again. Is that Tremolo wishes to still be friends with Zoey. Telling Sage or any love interest about Zoey's confession will either jeopardize his relationship with his love interest or jeopardize his friendship with Zoey. To this point we do not know if he would be okay giving up Zoey if he has to choose.

Sage is okay with it. She said so on the phone. The whole issue is that she doesn't know or trust Zoey, not that she doesn't trust the MC. And she's done with that. She is resolved. She spoke her feelings. Her investment in MC & anxiety with Zoey is done. Finished. Over.

It doesn't matter what Zoey says or does after that fact. There's no need to tell Sage about every bloody interaction the MC has with women. It's silly.

There's also no indication that Sage gives a flip about Zoey being friends with MC later on. Since Sage trusts the MC, it's a complete non-issue.

That doesn't mean it won't come up ever, but it won't be some horrific revelation like "OMG Zoey confessed? How dare you not tell me! We're done!" Sage and MC have already declared their love, talked about a future together with potential kids, about Sage's real mom, previously met MC's dad, have a new Family together, etc. MC helped her overcome Chad. He's helping her overcome her parents divorce. He helped her find a new Family, and now potential real future family. They are beyond dealing with other suitors and exes.

I think some of you guys don't get romance, harlequin (fantastical), or basic relationship drama. It could be some soap opera style melodrama. But we've seen DPC's writing skills in just basic cliffhangers fizzle into nothing, alongside his many forgotten threads that are bridges to nowhere.

Stating Sage is big on honesty is like, yeah? So why would the MC have to tell her about every detail, about every interaction he has with all females? That's not within his character, nor is it some new raison d'être he needs to start following now that he's serious with Sage.

And we have no idea what DPC is doing with Zoey after we reject her. But for her to be some kind of "Romance Quinn", a love triangle, or the vengeful newly-lost love for MC that will come along again to destroy the MP/MG's...that's just silly.

Zoey had her big moment. And it's gone. Conflict: resolved.

 

[BigTTiger]

And an extra two bonus points if the sexvideo with Jade is leaked. (1 for the sex itself and 1 for the video)

I still have yet to do that ep11 pt I'm saving that one for dead last ugh

 

[grarg]

The huge difference is that all other girls that flirt with him don't have such a deep connection with MC. It's pretty clear MC wants Zoey to be his Best friend/2nd best friend (depending on what you tell Derek) again, and that can create massive complications. MC wouldn't care because he's happy with Sage, but Sage would still care about Zoey's feelings, especially if Zoey will keep on acting on it.

Josy does. Maya does. All the main girls do or can. Shall we tell Sage random stories about them? I'd argue even Riona and Quinn, and some of the Side Girls, too, in their limited way.

If Sage cares, or is that curious, or that anxious...hey, she can ask. We and the MC are not mind readers. And if not, why would MC bring any of this up? It's certainly not in his character to rock the boat because we think that might be a good idea, or Sage likes it when he's honest.

MC: "Hey Sage. Your mom tried to seduce me a few months ago."
Sage: "WTF!?"

Yeah, great idea. Let's just gush about all his encounters with the ladies. I'm sure Sage would like that.

I mean, wouldn't MC love that info about Sage, too?

 

[BigTTiger]

This is the conversation before the major choice:


qu "You're a single guy, right?"
mc "What if I am?"
qu "Yeah, you're a single guy."
qu "Do you get laid a lot?"
"Yes":
mc "Of course. You interested?"
scene ep1_quinn_confront34 with dissolve
qu "Hah. Maybe."
else:
mc "Yes, I do."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "That was a lie."
"No":
mc "No, I don't."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "Really? Not even gonna lie about it?"
"None of your business":
mc "That's really none of your business."
scene ep1_quinn_confront34b with dissolve
qu "Ok, that's a no."
qu "And it's kind of my business..."
qu "What if I told you that there was a way for you to {i}have some fun{/i} in a noncommittal way?"
mc "What are you getting at?"
qu "I'm saying that I...erm..."
qu "Let's say you're hungry, but you don't want to cook the food yourself. What would you do?"
mc "Go buy food or order take out."
qu "Ah! Exactly. Take out."
qu "What I'm saying is that you can think of me as a {i}fast-food restaurant{/i}."
qu "Just call me and order some food and I'll get it for you."
qu "My menu, for the time being, consists of {i}Japanese{/i} or {i}Spicy{/i} food."
qu "It costs a bit, but most customers are very satisfied."
qu "Catch my drift?"
mc "I think I do."
qu "So? You want the number to my restaurant or not?"

Anyone with half a brain can figure out what the "food" of the restaurant is.

Hey hey I resemble err I mean resent that remark

 

[Chillout1984]

Josy does. Maya does. All the main girls do or can. Shall we tell Sage random stories about them? I'd argue even Riona and Quinn, and some of the Side Girls, too, in their limited way.

If Sage cares, or is that curious, or that anxious...hey, she can ask. We and the MC are not mind readers. And if not, why would MC bring any of this up? It's certainly not in his character to rock the boat because we think that might be a good idea, or Sage likes it when he's honest.

MC: "Hey Sage. Your mom tried to seduce me a few months ago."
Sage: "WTF!?"

Yeah, great idea. Let's just gush about all his encounters with the ladies. I'm sure Sage would like that.

I mean, wouldn't MC love that info about Sage, too?

Only Josy still kind of acts on it when you're in a relationship with someone else, and Sage also would probably dislike that a lot if she found out.

And no, not every encounter should be told to her, but every encounter that could have an impact does (like the Jade, Zoey or Josy situation).

 

[BigTTiger]

Talking about Madame Rose, I'm still curious who this guy could be:

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Maybe her husband or a client?

 

[DarkLords00]

Anyways the MC has to tell sage what happens because one, they are in a relationship and two its something that sage needs to know whats up. Remember she says that she doesn't trust zoey intentions and she is right about that.

Ok, let's for the sake of argument say that MC decides to tell her that. What are the possible outcomes of that discussion?

1- Sage tells MC I told you so and that's that. She thanks him for being honest and nothing else happens, putting the problem to rest.

2- Sage gets mad and SUPER jealous know. She gets even more insecure about her whole relationship with MC and drama ensues.

3- Sage blows a fucking gasket and makes an ultimatum to MC to stop seein Zoey once and for all. MC may or may not comply probably damaging the relationship beyond repair.

Why would MC need to tell her when the best outcome won't change absolutely nothing for them as a couple? There is no upside on hurting her with that info.

I can't believe that it needs to be said that this is a complete different matter than the Jade issue or even the restaurant issue. Zoey's confession to MC was a private matter between them and if he rejects her it's up to them if it should stay between them and MC and his partner gains absolutely nothing and stands to lose more (the same goes for every MG path, not just Sage) if they just put the matter to rest. Remember that Zoey confessed due to Brent egged her to do so because it was better than thinking about "what could've been" and there is no way thah unless one of them speak about it someone will find out so it's not a "ticking bomb" topic like Jade or the restaurant stuff.

The only way of Sage(or any main girl) finding out would be for Zoey to tell about it which why the hell would she do that? She stands to lose more than just her friendship with MC if she went ahead and did that.