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maxbishup

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It isnt a scene in the real sense , at night after you sold alice to eric , he will sometimes come at her , i think at 2-3 am. Max cant enter , when he click on the room you can read that eric fucks alice but max cant enter cause eric will deal with him. Some say this isnt ntr cause after you get rid of Eric you can ask alice about it and she will deny , buuut..... we know 1. that alice drunk forgets things such as sucking max at night after club and 2. when that scene with eric happens , eric influence on alice grows.
That has nothing to do with this version. Aleksey said, if you don't want it in your game, it want happen, it's up to the player. If you do want it however, then it want be just a hint, you will be able to see it. Same for Lisa. It's the best way to handle this, in my opinion.
 

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That has nothing to do with this version. Aleksey said, if you don't want it in your game, it want happen, it's up to the player. If you do want it however, then it want be just a hint, you will be able to see it. Same for Lisa. It's the best way to handle this, in my opinion.
Yeah I think the war path has the option to avoid Eric getting anywhere with any of the girls except Ann. The Friend path would be harder to avoid him getting action with the other girls but probably still possible. The sneaky path I wasn't sure about. It seemed like that path might allow Max to learn some of Eric's manipulation juju but at the cost of Max having to tolerate Eric going farther than he'd like with some of the girls. Or maybe it's only Ann that is unavoidable on that path. I can't really tell from the current version.
 
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That has nothing to do with this version. Aleksey said, if you don't want it in your game, it want happen, it's up to the player. If you do want it however, then it want be just a hint, you will be able to see it. Same for Lisa. It's the best way to handle this, in my opinion.
I told that regarding the original BB , but wouldnt mind repeating here , you know for the sake of emphasising eric as true antagonist and challange
 

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I told that regarding the original BB , but wouldnt mind repeating here , you know for the sake of emphasising eric as true antagonist and challange
No offence, but how are you challenged by a Visual Novel. Unless someone has trouble, clicking the left mouse button.
It has nothing to do with a challenge, but everything to do with NTR. With Eric gone at this point, the only thing you lose, is NTR, are perhaps becoming Eric's bitch. I mean to each there on, but it's not my thing. I have 11 survival games on steam, but not one, is a VN. I've played 100's of VN's, some with a lot of grind, but still zero challenge.
 

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No offence, but how are you challenged by a Visual Novel. Unless someone has trouble, clicking the left mouse button.
It has nothing to do with a challenge, but everything to do with NTR. With Eric gone at this point, the only thing you lose, is NTR, are perhaps becoming Eric's bitch. I mean to each there on, but it's not my thing. I have 11 survival games on steam, but not one, is a VN. I've played 100's of VN's, some with a lot of grind, but still zero challenge.
Eric's a challenge from a storytelling perspective, he isn't actually a challenge to play against. He's the antagonist. Without him trying to take over the girls, the story simply sucks. That's the reason Alice suddenly turned into a bitch in the original after you've disposed of him, so that you have some reason to go through the grind.

Take a look at Glamour for example. In it there's no Eric and Max's storyline is just a collection of renders, which in order to see you have to go through a mindless clickfest . In contrast, Kate's storyline is actually interesting. Same clickfest, but it's tolerable because something interesting happens in the story.
 

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Eric's a challenge from a storytelling perspective, he isn't actually a challenge to play against. He's the antagonist. Without him trying to take over the girls, the story simply sucks. That's the reason Alice suddenly turned into a bitch in the original after you've disposed of him, so that you have some reason to go through the grind.

Take a look at Glamour for example. In it there's no Eric and Max's storyline is just a collection of renders, which in order to see you have to go through a mindless clickfest . In contrast, Kate's storyline is actually interesting. Same clickfest, but it's tolerable because something interesting happens in the story.
Yeah, I see your point, and that's a good argument for, why Eric is in the game. But not for keeping him in the game. Like any antagonist, you need to be able, to fight against him, and eventually overcome him. With no way to get rid of him, you just become his bitch. You can keep a challenge, from the story perspective, long after Eric. Just my opinion, and I hope we all can play the game, our on way.
 

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I feel like if this game was told from Eric's point of view, people would love Eric and hate Max for being a little cockblocking snot and would gladly try to get rid of him to military school.

I however just want to see the girls become insatiable whores and don't care who is having sex with them.
 

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Yes, but it will include an extension to some opportunities, as well as some bonus with Alice . As for the patch, it could be as easy as changing, Ann=landlady to Ann=mom, or something like that. If not, then the whole script may need to be changed. Someone ask Aleksey if someone could make a patch for it, Aleksey replied "Of course they can". So hopefully, he'll make it easy for them. :alien:
i hope you are right. But if it were that easy, why did DS not do the same for the original game? He allegedly abandoned due to Patreon restrictions, right? This is essentially the same game, why is nobody worried?
 

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i hope you are right. But if it were that easy, why did DS not do the same for the original game? He allegedly abandoned due to Patreon restrictions, right? This is essentially the same game, why is nobody worried?
DS did that to milk the patreons more for their money... think ,he couldve always change the relationships between characters (tenents and landlady etc) and put in the setting a name mapping option. Now he fragmented his contenten like hell , wont tell kate story is bad cause i may be subjective (for me its unappealing) and its really hard to follow 1 story every 2 updates.
 

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i hope you are right. But if it were that easy, why did DS not do the same for the original game? He allegedly abandoned due to Patreon restrictions, right? This is essentially the same game, why is nobody worried?
Yeah, DS gave that lame excuse, but we all know that he just wanted to stop BB to start another game. There are hundreds of games here that use a "work around" for incest. I will have more info, about what to do soon. But I can say that the new version will have, extend opportunities, and a bit more with Alice. As well as more hints and improvements.

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I have tried playing this game after i finished the old one from DS... can this game avoid NTR at all or is it locked to have NTR no matter what? even at the beginning.
 

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I have tried playing this game after i finished the old one from DS... can this game avoid NTR at all or is it locked to have NTR no matter what? even at the beginning.
There's NTR with Ann, this is unavoidable, anything else is up to the player. You can't get rid of Eric, at this point in the game.
 

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There's NTR with Ann, this is unavoidable, anything else is up to the player. You can't get rid of Eric, at this point in the game.
well i think you are wrong here , mom sleeping with Eric isnt NTR. People made it sound like NTR , but the real definition of it is used for wives , girlfriends. Here she is the MC mom only for the moment , and also she isnt in love with the MC (a lovers love , not a motherly one) at least not yet in that regard. And even so , if a female character has sex with others before a real relationship is established isnt called NTR... take New coral city as a game for exemple . The girls there have plenty of sex with different males , including the MC, that doesnt mean its NTR cause they arent officially a package.
At most can call the relationship Kira will have with Eric NTR , cause well she and MC are a thing .
 
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