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apparently, Anne starts up with Eric really early on... when you have the chance to say that if Eric can come to the living quarters in the evenings or not. Which is odd since they just woke up and found out her Husband she was suppose to love so much had just died in her heart & mind. instead she jumped right into his bed pretty much right after starting to work for him, and the MC & Alice being classed as "Drones" and then confined to their quarters while Lisa is allowed to attend classes at their advanced school.
I have a feeling she has been given some of the aphrodisiac drugs that are around. Either the one the lets them breath any atmosphere or the one given to Alice by Max, or some equivalent. This is just my suspicion.
 

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I have a feeling she has been given some of the aphrodisiac drugs that are around. Either the one the lets them breath any atmosphere or the one given to Alice by Max, or some equivalent. This is just my suspicion.
I think there's also the possibility she's using Erics fascination with her to secure a position for everyone on the station after all 2 drones and a woman infected by a dangerous parasite doesn't sound like you'd invest a lot of effort on their well being without an ulterior motive, so bit of coercion, bit of aphrodisiac drug and what's the whole thing about the honey that seems like foreshadowing, bit of Anne always seems to go for people with authority et voila
 
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apparently, Anne starts up with Eric really early on... when you have the chance to say that if Eric can come to the living quarters in the evenings or not. Which is odd since they just woke up and found out her Husband she was suppose to love so much had just died in her heart & mind. instead she jumped right into his bed pretty much right after starting to work for him, and the MC & Alice being classed as "Drones" and then confined to their quarters while Lisa is allowed to attend classes at their advanced school.
That was one of my 2 main gripes about Omega route in first part of the game.
No way to stop Eric at all.And completely losing Ann.
I hope there is some massive change in second part,because obviously now he will concentrate on other girls.
It will be pretty damnn stupid if the things continue same way as ch.1.
And the girls start to disappear at night to go to Eric just like Ann.
We need a solution.
And I don't mean when we learn Eric's secret-at the end of ch2-beginning of ch.3.
No some more faster solution-like in next 2-3 updates.
It sounds like my second problem will have a solution pretty soon.
In part 1 of the game it's like alpha route get only rewards and omega-only punishments.
What I mean?
Omega route obviously have way smaller number of sex scenes and that's normal.
But the problem for me was that Alpha route took almost all exclusive sex scenes.
Sure,I didn't expect to be 50%-50%,but the difference is ridiculous.
Practically in first part of the game,the Omega route feels like a pointless.
After all you can see almost all scenes from Omega route on Alpha route too.And much more because of Eric.
But with introduction of Karen,I hope we will get to something more equal.
I have a feeling she has been given some of the aphrodisiac drugs that are around. Either the one the lets them breath any atmosphere or the one given to Alice by Max, or some equivalent. This is just my suspicion.
I have the feeling,Eric is stealing that ingredient for breathing and is using it on females to loose their inhibition.
 

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That was one of my 2 main gripes about Omega route in first part of the game.
No way to stop Eric at all.And completely losing Ann.
I hope there is some massive change in second part,because obviously now he will concentrate on other girls.
It will be pretty damnn stupid if the things continue same way as ch.1.
And the girls start to disappear at night to go to Eric just like Ann.
We need a solution.
And I don't mean when we learn Eric's secret-at the end of ch2-beginning of ch.3.
No some more faster solution-like in next 2-3 updates.
It sounds like my second problem will have a solution pretty soon.
In part 1 of the game it's like alpha route get only rewards and omega-only punishments.
What I mean?
Omega route obviously have way smaller number of sex scenes and that's normal.
But the problem for me was that Alpha route took almost all exclusive sex scenes.
Sure,I didn't expect to be 50%-50%,but the difference is ridiculous.
Practically in first part of the game,the Omega route feels like a pointless.
After all you can see almost all scenes from Omega route on Alpha route too.And much more because of Eric.
But with introduction of Karen,I hope we will get to something more equal.

I have the feeling,Eric is stealing that ingredient for breathing and is using it on females to loose their inhibition.
I don't have the time to answer all of that because I'm posing Lisa's scenes animations, but this is the tldr version of what I want to say:
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anim q lisa sexed sc lbed night stream 3000.png


Hi all,

I've started with rendering the images and the animations for Lisa's scenes, so here is a little preview. In BBIS you won't have to deal with black market SIM cards or hacking firewalls, instead you'll provide Lisa with access to Karen's streaming platform. You'll watch some stuff there together, but when Lisa is horny, she'll watch some videos at night while you pretend to be sleeping.
 

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I don't have the time to answer all of that because I'm posing Lisa's scenes animations, but this is the tldr version of what I want to say:
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You probably didn't understand what I mean.
The omega path -we just don't see the sex scenes Ann/Eric.
And sometimes Max around.
I get that.
My problem was,there was absolutely nothing we can do to interfere with Eric's plan for the whole first part of the game.
And the second problem-no exclusive scenes on omega route.
It feels like you are punishing the players that choose to play the omega route.
And make all rewards for the alpha route.
But with Karen appearance,the things started to change.
I hope at least in chapter 2,there will be some way to stop Eric to get Kira,Alice and Lisa.
And I don't mean at the end of the chapter,but in next 2-3 updates.
 
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You probably didn't understand what I mean.
The omega path -we just don't see the sex scenes Ann/Eric.
And sometimes Max around.
I get that.
My problem was,there was absolutely nothing we can do to interfere with Eric's plan for the whole first part of the game.
And the second problem-no exclusive scenes on omega route.
It feels like you are punishing the players that choose to play the omega route.
And make all rewards for the alpha route.
But with Karen appearance,the things started to change.
I hope at least in chapter 2,there will be some way to stop Eric to get Kira,Alice and Lisa.
And I don't mean at the end of the chapter,but in next 2-3 updates.
I think we view this differently and the dev differently again probably. You have 4 targets that need 4 different approaches. You start as level 1 you have no experience, no money and no plan besides I want to do everyone.

You make haphazard progress with Lisa and Alice until you need to learn something to progress.

You train with Kira to gain experience to progress with Lisa. You learn about Alice from Lisa and Kira to progress with her.

So you're gaining allies and resources. Anne and Eric hold all the cards to start with and you have to chip away at thier defences, corrupt Anne to your side and Eric can be made to help with that thinking he's exerting dominance over you, so he's losing while he thinks he's winning.

Eventually you have the other 3 firmly in your corner and enough help and resources to remove Eric from the board.

In BB this was Kiras connections, Olivias mothers connections or just money.

In BBIS it's a different vibe I suspect BB the group, Erics wives and daughters and a few other factors (I'm still holding out hope for sexy robots but I think shapeshifting aliens are more likely) . If you get rid of Eric super early it's just a corruption game, you already have Glamour, Man of the House and a dozen others taking that route. In BBIS I think you've got to give him enough rope to hang himself as he's after different goals to in Original BB (he already owns the house he doesn't need to kick you out.

I understand you want to knock down the obstacles between you and your goal but you can't beat the boss without the buffs and bonuses :)

Plus Annes job depends on Eric so there's a tonal shift in the game when Eric goes and Anne loses her job as Erics PA . In BBiS the consequences might be a bit more dire than starting a porn business, as the Cameras are out of your control and everyone knows about and seems to condone Alices Cam girl antics (I wonder if this is why BB seemed to get bored with Alice so fast)
 

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I think we view this differently and the dev differently again probably. You have 4 targets that need 4 different approaches. You start as level 1 you have no experience, no money and no plan besides I want to do everyone.

You make haphazard progress with Lisa and Alice until you need to learn something to progress.

You train with Kira to gain experience to progress with Lisa. You learn about Alice from Lisa and Kira to progress with her.

So you're gaining allies and resources. Anne and Eric hold all the cards to start with and you have to chip away at thier defences, corrupt Anne to your side and Eric can be made to help with that thinking he's exerting dominance over you, so he's losing while he thinks he's winning.

Eventually you have the other 3 firmly in your corner and enough help and resources to remove Eric from the board.

In BB this was Kiras connections, Olivias mothers connections or just money.

In BBIS it's a different vibe I suspect BB the group, Erics wives and daughters and a few other factors (I'm still holding out hope for sexy robots but I think shapeshifting aliens are more likely) . If you get rid of Eric super early it's just a corruption game, you already have Glamour, Man of the House and a dozen others taking that route. In BBIS I think you've got to give him enough rope to hang himself as he's after different goals to in Original BB (he already owns the house he doesn't need to kick you out.

I understand you want to knock down the obstacles between you and your goal but you can't beat the boss without the buffs and bonuses :)

Plus Annes job depends on Eric so there's a tonal shift in the game when Eric goes and Anne loses her job as Erics PA . In BBiS the consequences might be a bit more dire than starting a porn business, as the Cameras are out of your control and everyone knows about and seems to condone Alices Cam girl antics (I wonder if this is why BB seemed to get bored with Alice so fast)
I am not asking to beat him immediately.
But to not have even a single way to hit him for 10 updates?
0.9.4 is the update number 10,not 9,because after 0.6,we have 0.6.6 as update number 7
I still hope phase 2 of the game won't be the same way as the first one,just with other girls instead of Ann.
 

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maybe a stupid question, because I haven't used BBIS. how to use the records. I copied it to game /save/. Unfortunately, I only see my saves in the game.:confused:
 

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I am not asking to beat him immediately.
But to not have even a single way to hit him for 10 updates?
0.9.4 is the update number 10,not 9,because after 0.6,we have 0.6.6 as update number 7
I still hope phase 2 of the game won't be the same way as the first one,just with other girls instead of Ann.
The numberings a bit scrambled but I think one of the updates just renamed the paths and added VN mode so in terms of story updates it's 9.

I'm wondering what you are looking for here as in the present path Space Max has made progress corrupting Ann albeit with Eric still involved. Not sure what the equivalence is on the absent path so I think that path would be more frustrating as I don't think you get to see Max getting closer to Ann just Eric with Ann on occasions until he's finally dispensed with
 
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The numberings a bit scrambled but I think one of the updates just renamed the paths and added VN mode so in terms of story updates it's 9.

I'm wondering what you are looking for here as in the present path Space Max has made progress corrupting Ann albeit with Eric still involved. Not sure what the equivalence is on the absent path so I think that path would be more frustrating as I don't think you get to see Max getting closer to Ann just Eric with Ann on occasions until he's finally dispensed with
According to the dev we don't need to get rid of Eric in order to have sex with Ann on enemy route.
We can get her before kicking him out.
I just hope we can do something way before that to stop him progressing with other girls.
 

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According to the dev we don't need to get rid of Eric in order to have sex with Ann on enemy route.
We can get her before kicking him out.
I just hope we can do something way before that to stop him progressing with other girls.
Can you quote me on this? Because I'm pretty sure I never said that. If you're referring to this one, then I advise you to read it again.
You won't need to get rid of Eric in order to get to Ann.

Eric's part of the story will be in both paths.
Just like with the alpha/omega paths, there will be a point in the game where you'll have to choose again. In 0.9 you could switch paths (or not) and continue on friend or enemy paths. It will be the same at the end of the friend/enemy part of the game, but this time you'll get the chance to get rid of Eric or not. You'll eventually get to Ann regardless of which choice you make for Eric, but this doesn't mean that it will happen on the enemy route. In fact, it will be after both the friend and enemy routes have finished and certainly not "before kicking him out" (or when you get the chance to kick him out). I won't comment on "him progressing with other girls" because it will be a huge spoiler, but I can say that in the enemy path that would be kept to the absolute minimum that is required for the story and I'm still considering what to do in the friendship path about this.
 

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The numberings a bit scrambled but I think one of the updates just renamed the paths and added VN mode so in terms of story updates it's 9.

I'm wondering what you are looking for here as in the present path Space Max has made progress corrupting Ann albeit with Eric still involved. Not sure what the equivalence is on the absent path so I think that path would be more frustrating as I don't think you get to see Max getting closer to Ann just Eric with Ann on occasions until he's finally dispensed with
The versioning that I use is the following:
X.Y.Z

X - it's 0 before I "finish the game", 1 (then 2?) after I have a finished product
Y - the story update version
Z - low numbers (1,2, etc.) are for bugfixes, 5 is for update which includes new content for the repeatable events only, 6,7, etc. for bugfixes to the .5 version

In the enemy path there will be some progress with Ann too (e.g. the punishment events in 0.9), but of course it won't be as much as the friendship path's content with her.
 

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maybe a stupid question, because I haven't used BBIS. how to use the records. I copied it to game /save/. Unfortunately, I only see my saves in the game.:confused:
There is nothing specific that I've done regarding save files. Whatever works for any other RenPy game should work in BBIS as well.

One question though - why would you need other people's save files. If you just want a "full save" why don't you start a new game in the VN mode, skip through everything, choose your path when asked and at the end of the current content you'll continue in the sandbox being able to play through the repeatable events. It takes literally two minutes if you enable "skip unseen text" in the settings and just hold ctrl to skip everything.
 

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Can you quote me on this? Because I'm pretty sure I never said that. If you're referring to this one, then I advise you to read it again.

Just like with the alpha/omega paths, there will be a point in the game where you'll have to choose again. In 0.9 you could switch paths (or not) and continue on friend or enemy paths. It will be the same at the end of the friend/enemy part of the game, but this time you'll get the chance to get rid of Eric or not. You'll eventually get to Ann regardless of which choice you make for Eric, but this doesn't mean that it will happen on the enemy route. In fact, it will be after both the friend and enemy routes have finished and certainly not "before kicking him out" (or when you get the chance to kick him out). I won't comment on "him progressing with other girls" because it will be a huge spoiler, but I can say that in the enemy path that would be kept to the absolute minimum that is required for the story and I'm still considering what to do in the friendship path about this.
I straight up asked you if we need to get rid of Eric in order to have sex with Ann.
So can you make it more clear,because again it sounds pretty vague.
What exactly this means?
You'll eventually get to Ann regardless of which choice you make for Eric, but this doesn't mean that it will happen on the enemy route.
We will get Ann on friend route no matter what we choose for Eric?
On enemy route we won't get Ann until we get rid of Eric?
Also it doesn't sound like we will have some way to protect Kira,Alice and Lisa from Eric even on enemy route.
 
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