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Milmurnir

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O Sid tinha razão.

# Sid was right the first time.

Yeah, you're entitled to your opinion, but when someone tells you there's a lot more to it than what you're saying, that should be enough to make you hold your horses and start thinking properly...

There's no "then life happened", no "this only affects subscribers", no "he warned us about little content". He's been shitting on this community for too many years. F*ck this bs...
There's no accounting for tastes - each opinion is deeply personal. However! Logic and causality exist... Your 'community disrespect' scenario can't occur without underlying reasons. Every effect has its cause.
 

Milmurnir

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That's enough for me what they write and how. The game's theme also attracts a specific audience, right? :)

I'm running away, if you want, call me but I don't know Spanish so we won't get along :cool:
Wait, so you’re judging age just based on vocabulary and grammar? That’s really all it takes? Seriously?:unsure:
 

edgaia

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There's no accounting for tastes - each opinion is deeply personal. However! Logic and causality exist... Your 'community disrespect' scenario can't occur without underlying reasons. Every effect has its cause.
Logica da batata...

# What a load of crap... That's like saying: "if the girl was raped, she must have done something to deserve it". Rubbish.
Con artists like zip keep preying on gullible people until someone puts an end to it. Just cut off support, I say...
 
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lmyx2101

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I've made a gallery unlocker and corrected the code to display some inaccessible in Lisa gallery

Extract to...\BadBobbySaga_MOD-0.15.494-pc and overwrite old files (in case of)

You have to start the game once and close if you just want the gallery from menu unlocked.

Still same errors from scrapbook.rpy

Added the 2 missed mom's scenes
This doesnt work
 
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Milmurnir

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Logica da batata...

# What a load of crap... That's like saying: "if the girl was raped, she must have done something to deserve it". Rubbish.
Con artists like zip keep preying on gullible people until someone puts an end to it. Just cut off support, I say...
To elaborate: An individual who demonstrated sustained reliability in meeting subscriber obligations on Patreon (per Stil996's annotation), yet subsequently altered their terms for select patrons, clearly acted with deliberation. Such 'policy' changes stem from established rationale, not impulse. This is the crux of my argument.
 

onitosan

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The game is GREAT, no very playable and unnecessarily long. This short restart shows, in my personal opinion, a new approach to the mechanics of the game. I wait, i think is worth it. Thanks for the work you´ve done so far! I´d only suggests clear time objectives, better to expect it for June and have it in May that the opposite.
The tiktok generation has spoken out , everything served on a plate, easy games that do not require time or thinking . If something takes more than 2 minutes you lose interest. There are many Novels where you click with one hand and jerk off with the other. This game doesn't need it because it will lose its value. Everyone knows that people have their own lives. But this is about eternal promises and not fulfilling them.

How would you pay builders to paint your house like that? Instead of finishing in two weeks you hear that if you pay a few more times they will finish the job at an unspecified date. LOL

After a few months, it turns out that you only have one wall painted in the color you expected.

The developers of these games don't do it for free, they take money !!!

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mamlas55

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Bad update :-(

- missing images

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/office/office_area.rpy", line 13, in script
scene annaofficeimage2

Exception: DynamicImage 'extra002/office/office_crime_scene1_[daystatusname].jpg': could not find image. ('extra002/office/office_crime_scene1_day.jpg')


- unknown labels:
ScriptError: could not find label 'sneaking_into_mike_house_00_check'.
 

edgaia

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To elaborate: An individual who demonstrated sustained reliability in meeting subscriber obligations on Patreon (per Stil996's annotation), yet subsequently altered their terms for select patrons, clearly acted with deliberation. Such 'policy' changes stem from established rationale, not impulse. This is the crux of my argument.
Cada um faz a sua escolha

# Here's the rationale: when facing offensive behavior some will push back, others will bend over. Your pick is clear. Wake up.
 
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Milmurnir

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Cada um faz a sua escolha

# Here's the rationale: when facing offensive behavior some will push back, others will bend over. Your pick is clear. Wake up.
Your comment completely misses the point of this discussion. Let me remind you that my original stance (and I emphasize this) was that Zip must have had valid reasons for his behavior. You can't build an audience on promises alone - there needs to be an actual project concept. Zip succeeded in implementing his ideas: he created a game and continued developing it. People subscribed and supported him. Then Zip changed his approach to project development. This is exactly where I argued that people don't just change their minds spontaneously - there must be reasons behind it, potentially difficult life circumstances.

I've been personally accused of moralizing and defending Zip's interests, when in reality the opposite has become clear. This isn't about defending Zip - it's about calling out the morality police. Let me break it down:
  1. Attempts to "enlighten" individuals about an alleged "Zip scam" and influence his patrons
  2. Unsubstantiated allegations of fraud against Zip, relying exclusively on circumstantial evidence
  3. The infantilization of patrons based solely on lexical and grammatical analysis
  4. Manifestations of evident discomfort regarding Zip's financial success
  5. Irrelevant commentary containing incoherent content, invariably infused with moralistic overtones
This exposition should suffice. However, given the presence of certain "cultivated individuals" within this forum, I anticipate further responses. The necessity of reiterating fundamental concepts for those with reductive interpretations of reality becomes increasingly tedious. Interested parties may examine the complete dialogue thread for comprehensive context(y)
 
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Qalx

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Your comment completely misses the point of this discussion. Let me remind you that my original stance (and I emphasize this) was that Zip must have had valid reasons for his behavior. You can't build an audience on promises alone - there needs to be an actual project concept. Zip succeeded in implementing his ideas: he created a game and continued developing it. People subscribed and supported him. Then Zip changed his approach to project development. This is exactly where I argued that people don't just change their minds spontaneously - there must be reasons behind it, potentially difficult life circumstances.

I've been personally accused of moralizing and defending Zip's interests, when in reality the opposite has become clear. This isn't about defending Zip - it's about calling out the morality police. Let me break it down:
  1. Attempts to "enlighten" individuals about an alleged "Zip scam" and influence his patrons
  2. Unsubstantiated allegations of fraud against Zip, relying exclusively on circumstantial evidence
  3. The infantilization of patrons based solely on lexical and grammatical analysis
  4. Manifestations of evident discomfort regarding Zip's financial success
  5. Irrelevant commentary containing incoherent content, invariably infused with moralistic overtones
This exposition should suffice. However, given the presence of certain "cultivated individuals" within this forum, I anticipate further responses. The necessity of reiterating fundamental concepts for those with reductive interpretations of reality becomes increasingly tedious. Interested parties may examine the complete dialogue thread for comprehensive context(y)
...”... that Zip must have had valid reasons for his behavior ”- You are perfectly right! Zip’s reasons for his behavior are his laziness and his preoccupations with his own personal entertainment, mainly... beyond any excuses he might make up, his disappearances around holidays, whatever they may be, are a constant, in the months...
 

Fauno36

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Excuse my poor English, but in Spanish: "It doesn't matter if they talk bad about you, but it's true that they're talking about you."
 

Milmurnir

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...”... that Zip must have had valid reasons for his behavior ”- You are perfectly right! Zip’s reasons for his behavior are his laziness and his preoccupations with his own personal entertainment, mainly... beyond any excuses he might make up, his disappearances around holidays, whatever they may be, are a constant, in the months...
I've taken note of numerous differing opinions regarding Zip. It would be particularly interesting to hear from his longest-standing patron about what preceded all these events - what changed some supporters' attitudes toward the developer. What did he write in Discord? Perhaps he deleted some of his messages...

But to claim he acted solely out of laziness, greed, or similar motives... I won't presume - I have no concrete data. Only people's opinions, their speculations.

It's easiest when someone inadvertently reveals their true intentions through careless mistakes. Here, we lack substantial evidence of fraudulent intent. The only established fact is his failure to meet deadlines.

Considering many unsubscribed long ago and no longer provide financial support, their complaints essentially vanish into the void. One could write some nasty remarks about Zip - and that's it. But even these accusations of fraud may not reflect reality.

Perhaps someday we'll find confirmation of someone's theories about a 'criminal mastermind.' Or maybe an update will drop unexpectedly. Anything could happen.

One thing I know for certain - I know nothing about Zip's true motivations:unsure:
 
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Sid01

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It's a good thing we've got kids, because thanks to them, we've got games to download!
Otherwise, we wouldn't have anything to put in our hands...
You clearly didn't understand anything of what was written in this topic :) Zip does something to attract new naive people, not the other way around.
 
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