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James8585

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You're probably right. The plan was to have one, but Zip traditionally didn't meet the deadlines and had to split it into smaller ones.
RAince was one update a year. Zip was two, they both updated before Patreon went woke. Zip changed name and updated a further two times. RAince pissed about. He made another patreon page and it got taken down. Dunno if he ported to subscribestar. I still want the original game to finish both are good. Yes it was smaller updates, content, but it was still content added. In any event, he updates. There is a bunch of progress notes from him. He's not ripping people off in any opinion. Believe me I'll cancel my recent sub, where I found where too via the update here, if it takes the piss. It clearly reads update 4 in the game, so it is clearly due.
 

Sid01

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RAince was one update a year. Zip was two, they both updated before Patreon went woke. Zip changed name and updated a further two times. RAince pissed about. He made another patreon page and it got taken down. Dunno if he ported to subscribestar. I still want the original game to finish both are good. Yes it was smaller updates, content, but it was still content added. In any event, he updates. There is a bunch of progress notes from him. He's not ripping people off in any opinion. Believe me I'll cancel my recent sub, where I found where too via the update here, if it takes the piss. It clearly reads update 4 in the game, so it is clearly due.
I think there will be 4 and more, because Zip has the material ready and he won't invent anything. His only problem is how to glue it together. Let's just agree, this is not what people expected. You'll just get a rehashed dish. Zip recently wrote that he was pissed at Raince for how brutally he treated Lisa's story. Rape scenes, etc. The same for him taking the easy way out and putting in a lot of sex scenes, which people don't like. In my opinion, neither of them ever planned to end this story and I don't think anyone ever will.
 

edgaia

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I think there will be 4 and more, because Zip has the material ready and he won't invent anything. His only problem is how to glue it together. Let's just agree, this is not what people expected. You'll just get a rehashed dish. Zip recently wrote that he was pissed at Raince for how brutally he treated Lisa's story. Rape scenes, etc. The same for him taking the easy way out and putting in a lot of sex scenes, which people don't like. In my opinion, neither of them ever planned to end this story and I don't think anyone ever will.
O jogo estava a ficar bom e de repente isto.

# I get that. But the game was finally getting so good, why mess with it... As for RA version, I loved it. The dark mood is the only way to justify "realistic" incest... But it's not a mainstream approach, I admit. As for zip, idk... Very disappointing...
 

James8585

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I think there will be 4 and more, because Zip has the material ready and he won't invent anything. His only problem is how to glue it together. Let's just agree, this is not what people expected. You'll just get a rehashed dish. Zip recently wrote that he was pissed at Raince for how brutally he treated Lisa's story. Rape scenes, etc. The same for him taking the easy way out and putting in a lot of sex scenes, which people don't like. In my opinion, neither of them ever planned to end this story and I don't think anyone ever will.
Lisa's story was the best thing in it. We all wanted them all to work out like that, it was getting there with the other one, the younger of them. It was getting good, before it ended the content. It is a game and it's not real. As far as finishing it. How fucking hard can be to make something and finish making it. I don't care when, but leaving it unfinished what is that. Anyway as I said if it takes the piss, or it goes lame, there's no point in subbing. Any subbing is obviously expectant.
 

amber77

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Dec 21, 2020
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another patreon drama...hope the game continue as dev intended it. btw i don't know why devs still use patreon with a lot of bullshit policies.
 
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edgaia

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In light of ongoing discussions, I will provide a concise overview of my legal positions to serve as a definitive reference, thereby precluding the need for further inquiries on these matters.
Summary of Key Points
  1. Individuals with Psychological Instability
    • The subjects in question exhibit signs of mental instability, often demonstrating obsessive fixation on the matter at hand and a willingness to pursue extreme measures (practically without limitation).
    • Relevant Legal Concept: Vexatious litigants (recognized under 28 U.S.C. § 1927 for bad-faith litigation).
  2. Defamation and False Information
    • The deliberate dissemination of demonstrably false statements pertaining to an individual’s personal or professional life constitutes defamation (Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., 418 U.S. 323 (1974)).
    • This applies not solely to this forum or online game but extends to all digital platforms (Doe v. Smith, 2021 WL 1234567 (E.D. Va. 2021) regarding internet libel).
  3. Admissible Case Evidence
    • Documentation may include, but is not limited to:
      • In-game screenshots (FRE 901(b)(9) for authentication of digital evidence)
      • Chat logs and video recordings (Lorraine v. Markel, 241 F.R.D. 534 (D. Md. 2007) on electronic evidence standards)
  4. Common Jurisdictional Contexts
    • Such disputes frequently originate on social media or within online gaming environments (Zippo Mfg. Co. v. Zippo Dot Com, Inc., 952 F. Supp. 1119 (W.D. Pa. 1997) on internet jurisdiction).
    • The aggrieved party typically initiates investigations—sometimes employing private detectives—before seeking legal consultation.
  5. Attorney Conduct & Litigation Strategy
    • Legal representatives often persuade clients of the feasibility of penalizing the opposing party, despite maximum penalties typically being limited to fines (Restatement (Second) of Torts § 558 on defamation damages).
    • Note: These cases predominantly involve psychologically compromised plaintiffs.
    • Ethical Concern: Protracted claim drafting to inflate fees may violate ABA Model Rule 1.5(a) (reasonable fees) and constitute "churning" (In re Fordham, 668 N.E.2d 816 (Mass. 1996)).
  6. Investigation Methods & Legal Risks
    • Identity discovery often involves:
      • Law firm-led inquiries
      • Private detective agencies (occasionally employing legally dubious methods, e.g., unauthorized data retrieval)
    • Legal Violations:
      • 18 U.S.C. § 2701 (Stored Communications Act) prohibits hacking private accounts.
      • HIPAA (45 C.F.R. § 164.502) bars unlawful access to medical records.
  7. Financial Realities of Litigation
    • Typical Outcomes:
      • Defendant penalties: $300–500 (state small claims caps)
      • Plaintiff costs: $5,000–20,000 in legal fees (Missouri v. Jenkins, 491 U.S. 274 (1989) on fee reasonableness)
    • Warning: Plaintiffs risk substantial debt given disproportionate cost-to-reward ratios.
És lento a ler o ambiente à volta...

# Haven't you noticed the environment we're in? Censorship everywhere, deceipt, there's no sense of integrity or keeping to one's word... And you insist on adding more crap to the pile...? Get some sleep...
 

Milmurnir

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És lento a ler o ambiente à volta...

# Haven't you noticed the environment we're in? Censorship everywhere, deceipt, there's no sense of integrity or keeping to one's word... And you insist on adding more crap to the pile...? Get some sleep...
There's still time, Logan...
 
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Qalx

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There is or was such a possibility 100% because I supported such a creator once. He wrote normal posts and when he posted a post with a link, from your account they would charge a fee. There was some limit set there, I think one such post per month. In any case, I am still a subscriber to this creator even though he hasn't published anything for years and I don't pay anything for it.

But the main point is that it is not a normal transaction like if you receive the game (or even part of it) in exchange for your payment. Or he is trying to use the logic of normal transactions (sale-purchase) in this case, which is not the case in this situation at all!
 

Sid01

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But the main point is that it is not a normal transaction like if you receive the game (or even part of it) in exchange for your payment. Or he is trying to use the logic of normal transactions (sale-purchase) in this case, which is not the case in this situation at all!
This is a form of transaction within the Patreon platform defined by the company's regulations. I don't know if there are similar solutions on other platforms. I simply claim that such a solution is more fair. Zip could announce the release of an update, but he would only get money if he actually did it.
 

yrban7477

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I wish only one thing - for this Zip to be blocked with his "game" on all porn platforms around the world. For him to be banned for life.
 
3.10 star(s) 34 Votes