mckHH

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Dude, in the "without anal" part, has an answer: there is no anal because the anus was not made to have sex!

"anus was not made for sex" =/= "anus is not used for sex"
Anus has a singular biological function and sex ain't it. The hand's function is not sexual by nature either; still gets used for it. Just cuz it works don't mean it's 'made for it'.
Anal sex has existed in many different cultures & eras for various reasons, such as body exploration & the pursuit of pleasure.

Although the anus isnt biologically designed for sex (not for reproductive purposes), many people find it pleasurable due to the density of nerve endings in the area.

So was made for sex, is natural too (i dont want be explicit about, but check what happens in the nature too xd), just wasnt made for reproductive ways.

Is a breeding game yeh yeh ok, but is a sex game also too.
 
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Anal sex has existed in many different cultures & eras for various reasons, such as body exploration & the pursuit of pleasure.

Although the anus isnt biologically designed for sex (not for reproductive purposes), many people find it pleasurable due to the density of nerve endings in the area.

So was made for sex, is natural too (i dont want be explicit about, but check what happens in the nature too xd), just wasnt made for reproductive ways.

Is a breeding game yeh yeh ok, but is a sex game also too.
Exactly yeah, and specially all this argument falls apart entirely when you consider that a long time ago Derelict added female on female sex scenes, as well as blowjobs. Which don't give actually any "advantage" other than being sex pleasurable things to do to your nephs, unlike maybe handjobs did for harvesting fluids.

Frankly I find it stupid to argue with people with that same reasoning of like "anal is not useful on breeding", cause they seem more like trying to justify the fact that the dev is simply a lazy ass that wants to do the bare minimum of the minimum while being stupidly nitpicky about what is added or not in the game with the excuse of being things that "make sense" in X or Y random way but then theres A, B and C elements that prove those wrong. Tho again, recently I started to stop caring about this game and is eternal waiting cycles to not add anything reliable and new, while finding alternatives like ultra modded Skyrim to get the same experience and maybe even better.
 
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The dev hates you and mocks you for not liking only the dev's fetishes. In game there is even references to any requests they get that they dislike.

As such I sorta think they will keep a hard line on these sorta things.
 
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The dev hates you and mocks you for not liking only the dev's fetishes. In game there is even references to any requests they get that they dislike.

As such I sorta think they will keep a hard line on these sorta things.
NGL this should be reason enough to drop the game entirely. One thing is that you may have some kinks and that the dev/devs have others, which keeps the game in a far different way than how the player base could wish for, such as the devs of an annoying game like Tales of Androgyny (in which it always forces the player, one way or another, to be a cumdump that's only there to be raped in the most unwilling ways possible) but at least the devs of that thing don't actively mock you to attempt to go against the current and play differently. Sure, the meat (no pun intended) of things might be 200% focused on being the raped bottom instead of the giving top but at least you can have some fun both ways. Here however, by doing so, it gets you to be taunted and here's the thing, what the game offers gets old really fukin quickly.

Frankly the only "unique" thing this game has is the whole "breeding to generate unique offsprings" system, and even that at times doesn't feel that reliable, since for example you can get a chubby neph from two parents that happen to be skinnier than a damn chopstick. So at the very thing BotN should excell at, it feels like you have a much better time using a game like Palworld for genetics simulation than this, and let's be real here.... At least in the latter there's a utility to get whatever creature you might get while here.... You have save wipes.
 
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NGL this should be reason enough to drop the game entirely. One thing is that you may have some kinks and that the dev/devs have others, which keeps the game in a far different way than how the player base could wish for, such as the devs of an annoying game like Tales of Androgyny (in which it always forces the player, one way or another, to be a cumdump that's only there to be raped in the most unwilling ways possible) but at least the devs of that thing don't actively mock you to attempt to go against the current and play differently. Sure, the meat (no pun intended) of things might be 200% focused on being the raped bottom instead of the giving top but at least you can have some fun both ways. Here however, by doing so, it gets you to be taunted and here's the thing, what the game offers gets old really fukin quickly.

Frankly the only "unique" thing this game has is the whole "breeding to generate unique offsprings" system, and even that at times doesn't feel that reliable, since for example you can get a chubby neph from two parents that happen to be skinnier than a damn chopstick. So at the very thing BotN should excell at, it feels like you have a much better time using a game like Palworld for genetics simulation than this, and let's be real here.... At least in the latter there's a utility to get whatever creature you might get while here.... You have save wipes.
Yeh... tbh turns bored :confused: because lack content & options, visually beauty, but mostly empty is more like a big sandbox. I have a really love/hate with BOTN :KEK:

About gay/lesbian content in a breeding game not an excuse at all ... Cloud Meadow is a farming sex game too and you can find that there.

Even if the game focus into just futas and females (i suspect dev will do that in a future and remove all males), still is a empty game, dev had too much time for add things,idk how ppl still supporting for nothing after years :rolleyes:, i could like game get finished one day for can start to add mods xd, but lazyness is being reward so, no hopes with that, so meh, time to time i open it for fast fun and easy bored fast xd

Like said RubyZeronyka there are games, also simulators that have much more options about sex, story, content in general and of course mods or another contents you can add or purchase for add to the original like Oblivion, Skyrim, SecondLife, The Sims, sure there are more just i mention the ones i recall :unsure: atm :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeh... tbh turns bored :confused: because lack content & options, visually beauty, but mostly empty is more like a big sandbox. I have a really love/hate with BOTN :KEK:

About gay/lesbian content in a breeding game not an excuse at all ... Cloud Meadow is a farming sex game too and you can find that there.

Even if the game focus into just futas and females (i suspect dev will do that in a future and remove all males), still is a empty game, dev had too much time for add things,idk how ppl still supporting for nothing after years :rolleyes:, i could like game get finished one day for can start to add mods xd, but lazyness is being reward so, no hopes with that, so meh, time to time i open it for fast fun and easy bored fast xd

Like said RubyZeronyka there are games, also simulators that have much more options about sex, story, content in general and of course mods or another contents you can add or purchase for add to the original like Oblivion, Skyrim, SecondLife, The Sims, sure there are more just i mention the ones i recall :unsure: atm :ROFLMAO:
Yeah recently I had a lot more fun using modded Skyrim as a porny simulator that games like BotN being "designed" from the ground up to be good at that, yet still failing spectacularly at that very single task -w-

Like, no joke, I see.... IDK, say that I see a picture of a goblin girl and I find her so hot, I think "damn I need to do stuff with goblin girls" then I think on games that can have that and the first option that I think is BotN. I boot BotN but shortly after is like there's no fun in keeping that with the same identical goblins with the same 3-4 animations that you can do with them, and if animations were the only issue things would be fine, but is also about the same hairstyle, faces, body types, etc. Which makes me wonder what is wrong that gobbogirls don't feel that appealing in BotN. Then I jump on something like Loverslab and see a user posting pics and videos of all types of futa/femboy gobbogirls/boys made in games like Skyrim and like.... There's so much variety in there. From hairstyles, to body types and proportions, to outfits, to facial expressions, to animations, etc and that's cause I'm just considering the sexual interactions alone, I'm not even considering things like having them as companions while traveling on the game, doing missions and stuff, which BotN lacks so it wouldn't be a fair comparison.
 

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Yeah recently I had a lot more fun using modded Skyrim as a porny simulator that games like BotN being "designed" from the ground up to be good at that, yet still failing spectacularly at that very single task -w-

Like, no joke, I see.... IDK, say that I see a picture of a goblin girl and I find her so hot, I think "damn I need to do stuff with goblin girls" then I think on games that can have that and the first option that I think is BotN. I boot BotN but shortly after is like there's no fun in keeping that with the same identical goblins with the same 3-4 animations that you can do with them, and if animations were the only issue things would be fine, but is also about the same hairstyle, faces, body types, etc. Which makes me wonder what is wrong that gobbogirls don't feel that appealing in BotN. Then I jump on something like Loverslab and see a user posting pics and videos of all types of futa/femboy gobbogirls/boys made in games like Skyrim and like.... There's so much variety in there. From hairstyles, to body types and proportions, to outfits, to facial expressions, to animations, etc and that's cause I'm just considering the sexual interactions alone, I'm not even considering things like having them as companions while traveling on the game, doing missions and stuff, which BotN lacks so it wouldn't be a fair comparison.
Yeeeah, right. But iffen you're capable of kinky-ing up Skyrim properly, you gotta have some serious experience with the process of modding Bethesda games. A task that is nigh impossible for a casual gamer with zero modding know-how. Unless you know a place that has NSFW mod packages you can just-one click install. I agree 100% with your premise though, a modded Skyrim or Fallout 4 has a lot more "kink potential" with the right mod setup.

But I remember well my first semi-Luddite foray into modding FO4 with ModOrganizer2 (cuz Vortex=Useless POS), I already failed installing that thing right so it would eat the mods from Nexus. Took me a week to figure that out already. And getting the prerequisite mods for a working AAF setup was another hassle. AAF=Alternate Anim Framework, which is what enables all the kink & smut animations; dunno if itz the same framework they used for Skyrim, I only ever modded FO4 with it.
Half those mods you need don't live on the web no more, at least not the versions described in Dagobah's (the AAF creator) load order guide, so not only do you need the modding skills, you also need to know where to look for old, outdated mods that still sit on that load order list, or which mods to pick to replace em.

Took me about a half year to really get that FO4 setup going, and again, I agree, it was way more fun and diverse in terms of what type of kink one could engage in, character appearance, who did it with whom - and I'll say this, Dogmeat is a veeery sneaky customer^^. But thinking back some 15 years or so, I would not had the slightest clue a Fallout game could be that much smutty fun, or how to do it.
So speaking for the casual gamer I once was, itz a blessing some proper kink games like BotN exist at all. And when I think of all the visual-novel BS claiming to be games that's floatin around this site and others, with BotN I can at least actually run around (and fool around) in 3D. All it's shortcomings nonewithstanding, Breeders is a game I am happy to waste my time with - occasionally^^.
 
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Yeeeah, right. But iffen you're capable of kinky-ing up Skyrim properly, you gotta have some serious experience with the process of modding Bethesda games. A task that is nigh impossible for a casual gamer with zero modding know-how. Unless you know a place that has NSFW mod packages you can just-one click install. I agree 100% with your premise though, a modded Skyrim or Fallout 4 has a lot more "kink potential" with the right mod setup.

But I remember well my first semi-Luddite foray into modding FO4 with ModOrganizer2 (cuz Vortex=Useless POS), I already failed installing that thing right so it would eat the mods from Nexus. Took me a week to figure that out already. And getting the prerequisite mods for a working AAF setup was another hassle. AAF=Alternate Anim Framework, which is what enables all the kink & smut animations; dunno if itz the same framework they used for Skyrim, I only ever modded FO4 with it.
Half those mods you need don't live on the web no more, at least not the versions described in Dagobah's (the AAF creator) load order guide, so not only do you need the modding skills, you also need to know where to look for old, outdated mods that still sit on that load order list, or which mods to pick to replace em.

Took me about a half year to really get that FO4 setup going, and again, I agree, it was way more fun and diverse in terms of what type of kink one could engage in, character appearance, who did it with whom - and I'll say this, Dogmeat is a veeery sneaky customer^^. But thinking back some 15 years or so, I would not had the slightest clue a Fallout game could be that much smutty fun, or how to do it.
So speaking for the casual gamer I once was, itz a blessing some proper kink games like BotN exist at all. And when I think of all the visual-novel BS claiming to be games that's floatin around this site and others, with BotN I can at least actually run around (and fool around) in 3D. All it's shortcomings nonewithstanding, Breeders is a game I am happy to waste my time with - occasionally^^.
Yeah but this is the biggest issue of the current games gen situation. Games that can be modded to be turned into a nice experience for mature content like Skyrim or Cyberpunk are a hell to navigate until you get to a working results point. So it's that or relying on half baked AF experiences like BotN which at the end are just as clunky to make it work as the Skyrim/Cyberpunk likes cause at least on those you don't deal with SAVE WIPES, or alike stuff. There isn't a single game that can give those nice experiences out of the box cause apparently everyone who's a dev is too stuck on the mindset of "they need to respect my vision" or whatever crap in the same vein. Which, can be understood to certain degree, but the moment you give options on X aspect, you need to develop your ass on that X option or not include it on your game from the start.

Which is a big part of the reason on why I started messing with Unreal making my own thing and frankly I'm loving the possibilities of it, having better chances at making the thing that I want than waiting a moddable game to have enough mod options to be turned into that. Or waiting for an indie lewd game dev to stop screwing their games by making them something eyerolling to even waste your time on.
 

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Could I get my earlier comment pinned or would I need to provide the slighty-altered BotNTools?
Just add to Bookmark and you will can find your BOTN post anytime since your profile
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Just add to Bookmark and you will can find your BOTN post anytime since your profile
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Sorry, I think it was misunderstood. I was meaning that for the sake of anyone else who uses BotNTools, not just me. Although I do understand not very many people bother reading through the threads these days lol.
 
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