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Is there a lore reason why banging Komari is such a big deal, eventhough you can bang their god? No? Weird. :unsure:

Is there maybe a meta reason for this? Hmmmm :unsure:
Could it be that Aury (writer for Komari sex) is a discord shit poster and treated the whole ordeal as a joke? :unsure: Hmmmmm
Who knows? :rolleyes:
I mean, if some youngblood showed up one day out of the blue and started giving my gran backshots I'd probably not be too comfortable lol
 

Us3less

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Reading the hate about Liaden makes we want to chime in again because fuck what they did with the High Ground quest.

When it comes down to it, its pretty cool actually. Fight against a demon together with your friends or defeat him in epic single combat to prove your worth and claim the Dawnsword for yourself....except they manage to sour it, how you ask? the answer is simple. The whole quest has the vibes of "oh, you got the Dawnsword pc? i was hoping bland character Liaden was the one to get it, but it's totally fine you're the one who did, haha, but actually is it? yeah totally haha". The way the characters act, and talk about the situation and what happens is simply infuriating because they're really trying to make you feel bad for not letting boring character have it. Don't even get me started on Azy being all happy about her precious little trash can getting the sword and not giving a shit about the pc, or even be extra happy if the pc gave it up for her. Tbf though, im not sure if that part is still in the game and everything feels a bit better if you're in a relationship with both of them (which i will never to again).

Not sure this makes much sense, but im not in the mood to explain it any better.
 

YouShallNotLol

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Soooooooo we just gonna ignore the whole core of the rant? Which is the pairing and how it was handled. To just boil it down to lesbian? We just gonna blind man that whole section eh? Well alrighty then.
That's exactly how savin dickriders usually operate. Like that couple of guys two days ago who claimed that nobody in this thread ever talks about female characters, and only complain about futas.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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I mean, Champ already fucked Keros before that. Imagine some dude giving backshots to Jesus. Lol.
True that dicking down someone's chosen deity. Is a lot more impressive and awe inspiring, but I don't know. Knocking the dust off someone's grandma.... that's a lot more personal :unsure:. Like some random dude coming out the woodworks. And just going to town on gran gran. Or I suppose in this case, gran gran going to town on them. And you know some unholy sounds of meat smacking, moaning, and pain is being heard with how rough she apparently is.

Like I know the Kitsune get around but...
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Then after they done. Mans walk up to you, finger extended saying "want a whiff?"
 

Skandranon

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The majority of the unavoidable story encounters include dicked females, including your main opponent in the story, and gender swaps, in the case of companions. Getting fucked by people who just beat your ass in combat is also largely getting penetrated, not something straight men are into, and is largely a straight female priority. Especially when it is well documented that being raped is the most common female sexual fantasy. You're willfully blind to these aspects of the game, or disingenuous.

If you had said "Consensual content" you might have a point.

All the gender swaps for companions (really just Brienne, but throw Berwn in there if you want) is turning a dude into a girl. You known to make it more palatable to straight guys.

And combat encounters are not, in any way, the majority of the game. They're a tiny section.

So no. The majority of ALL content in this game is catered to straight guys, including factoring in loss sex.
 

YouShallNotLol

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All the gender swaps for companions (really just Brienne, but throw Berwn in there if you want) is turning a dude into a girl. You known to make it more palatable to straight guys.

And combat encounters are not, in any way, the majority of the game. They're a tiny section.

So no. The majority of ALL content in this game is catered to straight guys, including factoring in loss sex.
First, Berwyn is not a companion anymore.
Second, Brienne is a very unique case.
Third, you didn't mention a billion futafication expansions for female characters because it hurts your narrative.


>Rina's Lezdom
let me guess its locked to female
Yes. It is.
 

Jbuster

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True that dicking down someone's chosen deity. Is a lot more impressive and awe inspiring, but I don't know. Knocking the dust off someone's grandma.... that's a lot more personal :unsure:. Like some random dude coming out the woodworks. And just going to town on gran gran. Or I suppose in this case, gran gran going to town on them. And you know some unholy sounds of meat smacking, moaning, and pain is being heard with how rough she apparently is.

Like I know the Kitsune get around but...
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Then after they done. Mans walk up to you, finger extended saying "want a whiff?"
I want all of them kitsunes to live in a constant state of fear, arousal and confusion, just like my most annoying fox daughter
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Raptor_RXN

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I want all of them kitsunes to live in a constant state of fear, arousal and confusion, just like my most annoying fox daughter
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I can imagine nakano in the zone writing some poetry or something, only to get snapped out of the trance by the screams of his god getting dicked down (it's actually a hilarious prank, bro)
 

DoodlesTheBob

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Have you taken a moment to pause and think that maybe the implementation in this case was just not good? I did not see a SINGLE soul complain about Rina's Lezdom route besides me for example.
Somehow, failing to be a gold star lesbian is grounds to think a character is an awful unenjoyable lesbian romance option. Sort of like the people who go nuts about entirely avoidable signposted NTR. It's not about it being good or bad writing, it's about being possessive.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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Somehow, failing to be a gold star lesbian is grounds to think a character is an awful unenjoyable lesbian romance option. Sort of like the people who go nuts about entirely avoidable signposted NTR. It's not about it being good or bad writing, it's about being possessive.
Now either I'm misreading this comment. Or I'm reading it correctly and y'all just willfully being retarded. Folks be writing a whole ass thesis on the issue with that pairing. BEFORE they even dip a toe into the lesbo part of the equation.

Yet we just keep jumping to the les part only. As if nothing else was mentioned or talked about. The hell is going on?
 

K1ng_C00mer

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Now either I'm misreading this comment. Or I'm reading it correctly and y'all just willfully being retarded. Folks be writing a whole ass thesis on the issue with that pairing. BEFORE they even dip a toe into the lesbo part of the equation.

Yet we just keep jumping to the les part only. As if nothing else was mentioned or talked about. The hell is going on?
It's pretty obvious what's going on. Strawmanning is Savin and friends' numero uno argument. Oh you don't like this character that's a modern day lesbian inserted into this fantasy world? You obviously are just a misogynist who's seething about "Fucking dykes!11!" in their games. You don't like futadom #69420? You obviously just want to bitch and moan and have the game only cater to straight men.

It's hilarious how fucking willfully ignorant you have to be to seriously believe this shit. Don't feed me "ItS OpTioNAL iTs AvoIDablE!11" line either, because firstly, it still takes time and effort on the writers to write and code this stuff in. Secondly, this compromises a large part of content that's otherwise walled off from the player. Thirdly, no one has an issue with characters being for one sexuality or kink, it's when it's something like suddenly shoving a menage a trois onto us where one partner is explicitly into one type of gender. The writers have neither the ability or will to explore this sort of scenario in a manner it deserves.

And you know, I recall hearing a lot of players who play female champs and they always say how much a disappointment Kiyoko is, because without doing her preg content, she's just there. Hmm... Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Sounds a lot like a certain someone who's been the subject of this whole discussion...

I never once jumped at them with "Well, she's not for you, chud! Stop imposing yourself onto her preferences!" I do think it's a flaw that Kiyoko isn't catered better to female champs. And you know... She's a fictional character. I've seen people write fanfics where she cheats on her husband, has sex with a wolf, etc. And while I think those are certainly out of character for her, I'm not going to blow up on the author's DMs about how dare they write this character this way.

It's the same tired shit from the very beginning of this game's development. People ascribing actual feelings to fictional characters like they're real people. "The game's not about you, you don't own these characters" "It's unfair for the champ to have multiple lovers and expect the NPCs to be exclusive" "This character you loved is now retconned with new traits, you better like it or else you're a dehumanizing piece of shit" But we're the schizos for complaining about it.

Oh, and for the record I do like Evelyn. My favorite type of women are strong "girlboss" women. From Morgan Le Fay from Fate, Kiryuin Satsuki from Kill La Kill, Makima from Chainsaw Man, all the way to Heather Chandler from Heathers. It's always been my favorite archetype. Before anyone gets the idea I'm just a woman hating asshole who wants to control these poor NPCs because I'm an incel or some shit.
 

Mendakin

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It's pretty obvious what's going on. Strawmanning is Savin and friends' numero uno argument. Oh you don't like this character that's a modern day lesbian inserted into this fantasy world? You obviously are just a misogynist who's seething about "Fucking dykes!11!" in their games. You don't like futadom #69420? You obviously just want to bitch and moan and have the game only cater to straight men.

It's hilarious how fucking willfully ignorant you have to be to seriously believe this shit. Don't feed me "ItS OpTioNAL iTs AvoIDablE!11" line either, because firstly, it still takes time and effort on the writers to write and code this stuff in. Secondly, this compromises a large part of content that's otherwise walled off from the player. Thirdly, no one has an issue with characters being for one sexuality or kink, it's when it's something like suddenly shoving a menage a trois onto us where one partner is explicitly into one type of gender. The writers have neither the ability or will to explore this sort of scenario in a manner it deserves.

And you know, I recall hearing a lot of players who play female champs and they always say how much a disappointment Kiyoko is, because without doing her preg content, she's just there. Hmm... Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Sounds a lot like a certain someone who's been the subject of this whole discussion...

I never once jumped at them with "Well, she's not for you, chud! Stop imposing yourself onto her preferences!" I do think it's a flaw that Kiyoko isn't catered better to female champs. And you know... She's a fictional character. I've seen people write fanfics where she cheats on her husband, has sex with a wolf, etc. And while I think those are certainly out of character for her, I'm not going to blow up on the author's DMs about how dare they write this character this way.

It's the same tired shit from the very beginning of this game's development. People ascribing actual feelings to fictional characters like they're real people. "The game's not about you, you don't own these characters" "It's unfair for the champ to have multiple lovers and expect the NPCs to be exclusive" "This character you loved is now retconned with new traits, you better like it or else you're a dehumanizing piece of shit" But we're the schizos for complaining about it.

Oh, and for the record I do like Evelyn. My favorite type of women are strong "girlboss" women. From Morgan Le Fay from Fate, Kiryuin Satsuki from Kill La Kill, Makima from Chainsaw Man, all the way to Heather Chandler from Heathers. It's always been my favorite archetype. Before anyone gets the idea I'm just a woman hating asshole who wants to control these poor NPCs because I'm an incel or some shit.
>Oh, and for the record I do like Evelyn
well she was a woman
 

Tsubuhaza

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Is there a lore reason why banging Komari is such a big deal, eventhough you can bang their god? No? Weird. :unsure:

Is there maybe a meta reason for this? Hmmmm :unsure:
Could it be that Aury (writer for Komari sex) is a discord shit poster and treated the whole ordeal as a joke? :unsure: Hmmmmm
Who knows? :rolleyes:
Honestly? Give the guy the reigns of the whole project. Someone in this that can make you laugh with him is rare and must be properly rewarded.

Knocking the dust off someone's grandma.... that's a lot more personal :unsure:.
Well, to be fair, if you want a canonical reason, I'll let a WWE Hall of Famer sum it up.


Somehow, failing to be a gold star lesbian is grounds to think a character is an awful unenjoyable lesbian romance option. Sort of like the people who go nuts about entirely avoidable signposted NTR. It's not about it being good or bad writing, it's about being possessive.
Is it really too much to ask for the lesbian couple to actually evolve naturally and not, you know, jump to lesbian fanfic just because the writer wanted that and nobody contemplated holding the damn horses on it so the result would actually be more compelling?

Hell, how about instead of just having the wasp lady go "PC, can you tell that generic knight I want to scissor her tenderly in bed?", you have them interact throughout the game and then, by the time you bring Garth's wife back, the wasp comes and tells to the PC the situation.

"I'm romantically interested in the generic knight but because I'm shy, I'm still not entirely sure on whether I should pop the question or not."

You can then either encourage her or decline. If you encourage her, she returns a while back and tells you that the generic knight isn't interested in sharing, which is why they haven't fully managed to start the relationship but she does feel she likes the generic knight more for whatever reason.

You then pick on whether you'll just encourage her to go with the generic knight or disencourage her because "the knight is too jealous" or whatever. Shit ain't difficult, you just got to, you know, actually fucking work it out. That way, you'd have two notable characters and not a fucking NPC I can't even recall the name of (was it Lienda?) and a companion I barely give a shit about.
 

Alterism

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The hell is going on?
Unfortunately the entire reason I've avoided this conversation.
Not once in more than a few posts have I ever used the fact that both partners are girls as points of my contention.

You can read this post https://thef95zone.info/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-15214302
or maybe this one https://thef95zone.info/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-10727692
or maybe this on- You get the point.


So then I read "The reason you dislike NPC x NPC is not the reason you said you did, at length, multiple times. Doing so for a frankly embarrassing amount of time." Only for another to chime in, "Yeah, it's actually that you hate lesbians!"
What are they talking about?

Still I'm typing right now let's do a quick refresher:
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The only thing SKoW has changed is started including the player.


But, if you don't like Liaden you still get exactly nothing for the companion.

Side note:

I'm not enough of a dweeb to insinuate that there aren't some people with whom gender is their point of contention. But given how often Liaden is a side note whenever the topic of NPC x NPC is brought up as a whole, I'm also not enough of a dick to insinuate that that is clearly the reason for their contention.

That sounds familiar.... sir loremaster. Your humble follower asks of you, to expand upon this delicious sounding fuck shit. And/or point me in the direction. So I may witness the tomfoolery myself. I tried to look it up. But all I could find was a short post. Talking about some seemingly forced orgy. But it did mention twins so maybe :unsure:.
You might have just missed the reception I think. This isn't lore. Just watching how people 'enjoyed' the content.
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Ironically this isn't the first time we've seen 'character wants pregnancy so does a ritual including group sex'

Walk with me down memory lane to TiTS:
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ChubbyFatBoy

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You might have just missed the reception I think. This isn't lore. Just watching how people 'enjoyed' the content.
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And this is where my methodology of not to paying much attention to updates. Saves me from a lot of headaches. From mmos, to regular games, to now the poon. Lot harder to be disappointed when you don't know shit went wrong. And by the time I've noticed, I've probably already adapted. Whole thing sounds 32 flavors of retarded. But if I'm being honest. Sometimes it ain't even the dumb actions taken. It's the sheer stupid that goes into it. That folks spent time thinking, writing, and coding this stuff. Then when finished, looked back and thought to themselves. Yea... this is the good stuff. Of all the things we could spend time on and give our players. This is definitely what they would want. And I'm sure some would.... but I bet a lot more would've looked at them funny. If they knew upfront.

Ironically this isn't the first time we've seen 'character wants pregnancy so does a ritual including group sex'

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But all this stuff is why I referred to you as loremaster. I have learned soooo much fuck shit from reading your posts. I mean, I learn a lot from many posts in general. But you in particular have been invaluable. Even throw in stuff from TiTS to add into my Book of Fuckery.
 
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