Uriel ☁

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I really wanna see Cass and wifed Isis interact. They've never even met.

They're so similar yet distinct. I believe they would hate each others guts at first, but if they managed to get an understanding of each other they would make an impressive alliance.
 

Ashu42069

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I really wanna see Cass and wifed Isis interact. They've never even met.

They're so similar yet distinct. I believe they would hate each others guts at first, but if they managed to get an understanding of each other they would make an impressive alliance.
And an impressive threesome
 

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I really wanna see Cass and wifed Isis interact. They've never even met.

They're so similar yet distinct. I believe they would hate each others guts at first, but if they managed to get an understanding of each other they would make an impressive alliance.
They have met. If MC is reluctant to work with Cass, Isis shows up to tell Cass she has something to discuss with MC. It's also how you get to decide if Isis poisons her or not.
 
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Uriel ☁

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They have met. If MC is reluctant to work with Cass, Isis shows up to tell Cass she has something to discuss with MC. It's also how you get to decide if Isis poisons her or not.
Ok I've not seen that scene because I'm NEVER reluctant to work with Cass. :KEK:
Anyway I meant a scene where they interact with each other when you're allied to both of them.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Ok I've not seen that scene because I'm NEVER reluctant to work with Cass. :KEK:
Anyway I meant a scene where they interact with each other when you're allied to both of them.
I was just saying that they have met and interacted briefly, depending on your choices. But yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing them interact more. Isis is a sexy ass demoness though. I wouldn't be surprised if Cass intentionally keeps her at a distance. That poison scene showed how much of a monster she can be compared to Cass. It's like a Lioness vs a house cat.
 
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I really wanna see Cass and wifed Isis interact. They've never even met.

They're so similar yet distinct. I believe they would hate each others guts at first, but if they managed to get an understanding of each other they would make an impressive alliance.
Lol alliance... Let me show you :

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This is the Red Emperor path, which has the most content ISISxCass. Isis kills cass, she tolerates no competition and must be the only women whispering in your ear.

It is the best path in the game IMO

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Uriel ☁

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Lol alliance... Let me show you :
The fact about Isis is that she truly is devoted to you. She made an all-in on you and will protect and fight for you. She already said she wants you to kill her family to annect the south. She has no hesitation killing Cass if she believes she's a threat on you.

Cass is the same. In fact the reason she killed her own father was to protect you. Her end goal was always to make you king.

That's why I'm saying their end goal align more they differ and would make a powerful alliance.
 
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The fact about Isis is that she truly is devoted to you. She made an all-in on you and will protect and fight for you. She already said she wants you to kill her family to annect the south. She has no hesitation killing Cass if she believes she's a threat on you.

Cass is the same. In fact the reason she killed her own father was to protect you. Her end goal was always to make you king.

That's why I'm saying their end goal align more they differ and would make a powerful alliance.
In addition to a powerful alliance, the two have another very interesting point in common: they make the power game much more agitated.

a world where the MC has to count on the help of his witch sister is a fucking boring world.

Cass and Isis have a certain quite complex moral and sentimental dichotomy, both can be bloodthirsty, destructive and vengeful, but at the same time they show affection and real interest in the protagonist's journey and this is really exciting because it creates a sea of possibilities... perverse and fucked up possibilities... but also political; In my gameplay, for example, the MC is no Caligula... if I had to define him it would be within the box of enlightened despotism.
 

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Feudal power is based on a chain of people looking up.

Propriety and Courtly Protocol are a show of strength and order. To abandon them is to show the finger to the agreements that bind liege and vassal. If you can't honor the laws of the gods or your society, how can anyone expect you to honor the agreements that make up the realm?

That's one of the many reasons why large feudal empires often have a very strenuous peace.

And that's before you add people deliberately looking to sow distrust, cause chaos and gain power by any means. Or things like popular revolts. heresies, those damn merchants and their money, military dissent or the church.

It's why many empires become extremely bureaucratic, because a calcified bureaucracy furthers stability. The bureaucracy will always protect itself after all.

So no, the emperor is not the most free to do what he wants. In many ways, the eyes of scrutiny are always on him and make him the most bound in the kingdom.
The power to change that comes with time, trust and allies.

Look into Lothair the second trying to trying to marry Waldrada. That's a similar situation in regards to laws and propriety that should be pretty simple for a man with his power, but isn't.
The mistake you are making is to compare Feudalism of this game to Feudalism of Western Europe. While there are strong cultural similarities with Western Feudalism, the matter is that the Dev is a Russian and in Eastern Europe Feudalism operated in entirely different manner.
And how they differ? In Kievan Rus' (ancestral Russian State) the ruling King was a powerful warlord who pretty much did anything he wanted. Rurik created Kievan Rus', Igor raided Constantinople, Olga massacred Drevlians, Sviatoslav invaded Constantinople again, Vladimir Christianised Rus' despite having something like 7 wives, and Yaroslav enjoyed the Golden Age of his people. Then things fell apart.
And mind you, this game is far diverse than both Western and Eastern Europe ever were. There are elves, Republican western cities, Scandinavian north, and Arabic south (plus east which I won't remember). If you become the gigachad and control all these diverse lands, having extra wives should be no problem.

This is how you learn history on a decadent porn forum guys!
 

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It's a fantasy world with elves and magic. It can be justified in-universe as it has been many many times. I don't think any of the pseudo-historical somewhat pretentious arguments here are even slightly relevant and I'm definitely sure the dev hasn't thought as half as much about it as you guys have. I'm surprised this ridiculous shit even gets likes.
 
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The mistake you are making is to compare Feudalism of this game to Feudalism of Western Europe. While there are strong cultural similarities with Western Feudalism, the matter is that the Dev is a Russian and in Eastern Europe Feudalism operated in entirely different manner.
And how they differ? In Kievan Rus' (ancestral Russian State) the ruling King was a powerful warlord who pretty much did anything he wanted. Rurik created Kievan Rus', Igor raided Constantinople, Olga massacred Drevlians, Sviatoslav invaded Constantinople again, Vladimir Christianised Rus' despite having something like 7 wives, and Yaroslav enjoyed the Golden Age of his people. Then things fell apart.
And mind you, this game is far diverse than both Western and Eastern Europe ever were. There are elves, Republican western cities, Scandinavian north, and Arabic south (plus east which I won't remember). If you become the gigachad and control all these diverse lands, having extra wives should be no problem.

This is how you learn history on a decadent porn forum guys!
you said nothing about how they differ tho
 

kelelih

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you said nothing about how they differ tho
Basically feudalism in Western Europe was much more decentralized than the Kievan Rus. Technically French, German and English kings WERE the heads of state, but they were dependent on local barons, counts, dukes and knights who often could exercise quite a lot of autonomy. Nation states weren't really a thing in Western Europe until the 1700s
 

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Basically feudalism in Western Europe was much more decentralized than the Kievan Rus. Technically French, German and English kings WERE the heads of state, but they were dependent on local barons, counts, dukes and knights who often could exercise quite a lot of autonomy. Nation states weren't really a thing in Western Europe until the 1700s
'Kingdom' of ours is also pretty decentralized if you ask me, given how one lord save our asses in the non-coup path.
 
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Uriel ☁

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I think he's always been quite good at scene composition, but lately since he upgraded his pc the end result has improved massively.

In the first chapters the renders were very grainy, telltale sign that they needed more time to be properly cooked. But even then the renders were composed quite well, it was just the hardware that was not up to the task.
 

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And here we can see two characters conducting a team building fire safety training exercise.

Notice how they picked a good fire resistant location, with the stone walls, and nothing flammable, like tapestries, books, scrolls, etc. Wouldnt want any accidents!

It's nice that the MC has so many responsible people around! :D
 
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