Fitharia

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Lol, no. Hundreds of people go missing all the time while traveling and no one bats an eye, and the lion's share of them are still unsolved. The only time ONE country cares, usually the one the person got lost in, is because it very luckily makes headlines and they're worried it might affect tourism.
I never said they be found always, but Amber alert or child focus does active work to find them back, sadly they can't always find someone back basicly because the person missing is from a poor group often, but the minute it be someone important or exchange program it more serious when they search, especialy Japan and US have a decent relation they don't want to risk their relation. But you are right there still alot people missing, but there also alot people found back, sadly not always alive. But this is just fantasy and only made to make the story more interesting, so noone would really care if they gone missing lol.
 
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Fitharia

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good morning this format allows very few saves wouldn't it be possible to use one that allows unlimited saves?
Not sure what game you playing, but for first remake part you don't need multi saves, but I looked at the save page and there just as much saves any other ren'py game has so I don't know why already complain.
 

Mihael6696

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Why would people be stringed along to paying me just because I said I don't know if there is NTR or not.
I don't lie about not knowing if the game is NTR or not, the girl in the game is your "crush". Not your wife or your girlfriend.

So if your question is, will the "crush" become a Love Doll, the answer is... Yes.
It's needed to drive the story forward.
Can you add trans/feminization content? A lot of content and fetishes are possible with it.
 

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good morning this format allows very few saves wouldn't it be possible to use one that allows unlimited saves?

I'm working on a 0.1.1 version as of now, and it will contain some fixes and feedback additions, so this is perfect, thank you, I will be adding more save slots for the next version. <3
 
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demello667

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My man, just tell us what the plan is and mark it as spoiler.
As far as the endings we can reveal (even I do not know all the endings yet). There will be secret or bad endings in all updates 0.2 and forward. The confirmed main endings so far are- Good ending to save everyone, Bad ending failed to save anyone and Harem ending to have all the girls for you.
 
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Can you add trans/feminization content? A lot of content and fetishes are possible with it.
This could be a possible secret ending or bad ending, which we call it. So yes, I could totally add that at some point, those endings are avoidable, so it would work too. <3
 

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I never said they be found always, but Amber alert or child focus does active work to find them back, sadly they can't always find someone back basicly because the person missing is from a poor group often, but the minute it be someone important or exchange program it more serious when they search, especialy Japan and US have a decent relation they don't want to risk their relation. But you are right there still alot people missing, but there also alot people found back, sadly not always alive. But this is just fantasy and only made to make the story more interesting, so noone would really care if they gone missing lol.
Oh okay, my bad, yeah a missing child is another thing entirely. Not every country has an amber alert system though, and that specifically is a USA thing, but yeah they take missing children waaaaaay more seriously so my bad for misunderstanding.
 

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Lol, no. Hundreds of people go missing all the time while traveling and no one bats an eye, and the lion's share of them are still unsolved. The only time ONE country cares, usually the one the person got lost in, is because it very luckily makes headlines and they're worried it might affect tourism.



He's being a bit rude but still has a good point, NTR will turn a ton of people off, especially if it's unavoidable. You'll save yourself a lot of headaches later if you're clear about stuff like this from the start, especially if you think you might have it down the line.

Not knowing whether or not you'll have NTR, especially unavoidable NTR, is a huge red flag to a lot of people. And just so you know, NTR as a fetish is usually more broader in games like this, so it includes obvious love interests even if you're not formally in a relationship yet, as a lot of people wouldn't ever get in a relationship with say a prostitute or a stripper exactly because they casually sleep with a lot of other people and might continue to do so.
I appreciate ur comment in trying to clarify what the original comment meant, But ill come out very clear about this.


NETORARE MEANS BEING BETRAYED IN A RELATIONSHIP OR INFIDELITY.


I am sick of these NTR THIS NTR THAT comments, NTR has now become such a topic that as you urself mentioned, its tooo broad now, people have made it such a mess that almost every blackmail,rapey,bdsm,corruption game will be considered NTR and to be very honest, I DONT MIND.

If people want to be this sensitive and create there own ntr meanings which wasnt originally considered NTR, I got no issue since its them limiting what they want to play or not, and I also understand that those made up meanings are being taken seriously by new H gamers, I am just sick of people bombarding forums about these topics.



Anyways, sorry for the rant.

THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CHECK COMMENTS, FIGHT OVER NTR ETC.

THE GAME HAS TO HAVE NTR FOR THE STORY TO PROGRESS, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD. (What kind of NTR? the new kind where even a crush being taken is considered NTR, which btw wasnt EVEN NTR ORIGINALLY and if you dont agree, Go look it up what NETORARE Actually means before wasting ur time here fighting)
 
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I appreciate ur comment in trying to clarify what the original comment meant, But ill come out very clear about this.


NETORARE MEANS BEING BETRAYED IN A RELATIONSHIP OR INFIDELITY.


I am sick of these NTR THIS NTR THAT comments, NTR has now become such a topic that as you urself mentioned, its tooo broad now, people have made it such a mess that almost every blackmail,rapey,bdsm,corruption game will be considered NTR and to be very honest, I DONT MIND.

If people want to be this sensitive and create there own ntr meanings which wasnt originally considered NTR, I got no issue since its them limiting what they want to play or not, and I also understand that those made up meanings are being taken seriously by new H gamers, I am just sick of people bombarding forums about these topics.



Anyways, sorry for the rant.

THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CHECK COMMENTS, FIGHT OVER NTR ETC.

THE GAME HAS TO HAVE NTR FOR THE STORY TO PROGRESS, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD. (What kind of NTR? the new kind where even a crush being taken is considered NTR, which btw wasnt EVEN NTR ORIGINALLY and if you dont agree, Go look it up what NETORARE Actually means before wasting ur time here fighting)
I get being annoyed by this, but imo the popularity of the question speaks to how much it matters to the playerbase, and as a result, at least in my opinion, the importance it should have to devs who depend on this playerbase to make their game successful.

Trust me I know it can get ridiculous, but the reason people don't bother making a distinction is because they don't care, as it is all several overlapping circles related to each other, hence why NTR is colloquially used as an umbrella term. Add to that that many devs themselves are very loose with the term and crossing the lines, and most players just don't want anything to do with any of it.

https://attachments.thef95zone.info/2021/05/1231446_1621832435820.png

Typically in entertainment media, and especially in the minds of a lot of players, NTR almost always includes the obvious love interest(s) even if they're not formally in a relationship, as it is a well-known and established trope which essentially suggests this person is meant to eventually be in a relationship with the MC. It's different if it's a random person that is clearly not set up to be a romantic interest.

So while I do agree it's too broad, I also think that in part is a self-defense from devs who have also become too vague and casual with a fetish a lot of people dislike. So for a lot of people, if the crush is an obvious love interest, then this would definitely count as NTR.

I also don't think it's fair to be mad at people about this, as it's borderline kink shaming. People clearly just don't like NTR, and people have the same reaction to other kinks. No one is going to care about the semantics or context/nuance of anything that seems like rape even if it's 'technically' not really rape, they will still avoid it with a 10 foot pole, period.

This already a bit too long, but one last thing, it also serves no one to not just be blunt about this and let people decide by themselves. You clearly know people think of this as NTR (and personally, I don't think it's "new" NTR, it's cleanly in the long-standing broad definition of it as a fetish), so IMO it'll help you to get this over with now so you won't get angry people later worsening things and are far more likely to only draw people who come into the game expecting or even wanting what you're offering.

Just my... like 10 cents, lol.
 

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I appreciate ur comment in trying to clarify what the original comment meant, But ill come out very clear about this.

NETORARE MEANS BEING BETRAYED IN A RELATIONSHIP OR INFIDELITY.

I am sick of these NTR THIS NTR THAT comments, NTR has now become such a topic that as you urself mentioned, its tooo broad now, people have made it such a mess that almost every blackmail,rapey,bdsm,corruption game will be considered NTR and to be very honest, I DONT MIND.

If people want to be this sensitive and create there own ntr meanings which wasnt originally considered NTR, I got no issue since its them limiting what they want to play or not, and I also understand that those made up meanings are being taken seriously by new H gamers, I am just sick of people bombarding forums about these topics.

Anyways, sorry for the rant.

THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CHECK COMMENTS, FIGHT OVER NTR ETC.

THE GAME HAS TO HAVE NTR FOR THE STORY TO PROGRESS, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD. (What kind of NTR? the new kind where even a crush being taken is considered NTR, which btw wasnt EVEN NTR ORIGINALLY and if you dont agree, Go look it up what NETORARE Actually means before wasting ur time here fighting)
I mean, either enforce more granular tags or this is going to keep coming up in every game where there might at some point be NTR based on the description.

NTR is too broad and super divisive. For example, I like netori (being the 'partner thief,' for lack of a better term) but hard pass on a game where the PC gets cheated on unavoidably, and I honestly don't even like unavoidable "sharing." I'm sure that says something about me, but whatever. Netorare, Netorase, Netori all get lumped into the same "NTR" tag.

Point being, if a single tag is so broad that it encompasses things a single person might seek out AND things that same person might avoid, then ya, you're going to get people asking about what the game does/will include and what is/will be avoidable.
 

Astralfan

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I get being annoyed by this, but imo the popularity of the question speaks to how much it matters to the playerbase, and as a result, at least in my opinion, the importance it should have to devs who depend on this playerbase to make their game successful.

Trust me I know it can get ridiculous, but the reason people don't bother making a distinction is because they don't care, as it is all several overlapping circles related to each other, hence why NTR is colloquially used as an umbrella term. Add to that that many devs themselves are very loose with the term and crossing the lines, and most players just don't want anything to do with any of it.

https://attachments.thef95zone.info/2021/05/1231446_1621832435820.png

Typically in entertainment media, and especially in the minds of a lot of players, NTR almost always includes the obvious love interest(s) even if they're not formally in a relationship, as it is a well-known and established trope which essentially suggests this person is meant to eventually be in a relationship with the MC. It's different if it's a random person that is clearly not set up to be a romantic interest.

So while I do agree it's too broad, I also think that in part is a self-defense from devs who have also become too vague and casual with a fetish a lot of people dislike. So for a lot of people, if the crush is an obvious love interest, then this would definitely count as NTR.

I also don't think it's fair to be mad at people about this, as it's borderline kink shaming. People clearly just don't like NTR, and people have the same reaction to other kinks. No one is going to care about the semantics or context/nuance of anything that seems like rape even if it's 'technically' not really rape, they will still avoid it with a 10 foot pole, period.

This already a bit too long, but one last thing, it also serves no one to not just be blunt about this and let people decide by themselves. You clearly know people think of this as NTR (and personally, I don't think it's "new" NTR, it's cleanly in the long-standing broad definition of it as a fetish), so IMO it'll help you to get this over with now so you won't get angry people later worsening things and are far more likely to only draw people who come into the game expecting or even wanting what you're offering.

Just my... like 10 cents, lol.
I get your point and Also agree to what u mean in its core, and I am sure you understand exactly where I come from.

Although I want to make it very clear, It isnt kink shaming when I am questioning the reality of the very kink that people are trying to identify with or are trying to avoid, I am not mentioning neither did I ever describe being mad at someone who doesn't like NTR, its usually the other way around in the community and you know it.

I simply stated the factual truth, and the only thing I still find interesting is your point of this CRUSH BEING TAKEN being the original NTR in the broader sense, you yourself stated, it DOES come under the Broader sense of this Fetish and that was also my point...It comes in the broader conclusion NOW, because NTR is THAT broad these days, Originally it mainly meant betrayal from someone who is in relationship with you, not some whimsy daydreaming crush fucking someone else, it had to be a couple, this Love interest stuff came much much later, and even saying that..I did mention that its completely understandable that this NEW NTR is still considered NTR and is taken seriously by the folks. I simply mentioned how closed off this 'Potential LI is ntr' makes people from playing a lot of games, but who am I to judge (thats why i stated that i really dont care)

My comment wasn't directed at you as u know,but i am sure u understand how annoying this NTR or Anti NTR fights become, so to make it clear, I wanted to mention in reality of what kind of NTR the game has and thats that.

I appreciate ur 10cents, peace.
 

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I mean, either enforce more granular tags or this is going to keep coming up in every game where there might at some point be NTR based on the description.

NTR is too broad and super divisive. For example, I like netori (being the 'partner thief,' for lack of a better term) but hard pass on a game where the PC gets cheated on unavoidably, and I honestly don't even like unavoidable "sharing." I'm sure that says something about me, but whatever. Netorare, Netorase, Netori all get lumped into the same "NTR" tag.

Point being, if a single tag is so broad that it encompasses things a single person might seek out AND things that same person might avoid, then ya, you're going to get people asking about what the game does/will include and what is/will be avoidable.
Agreed, That's one issue that needs to be fixed, As far as I know...the NEW TAG system is being worked upon for a long time now but hasnt been implemented, Stuff like NTR (NETORARE) , NTR(NETORI), NTR (NETORASE) should be very clear as those 3 are main disctinct differences, on the other hand you have Cheating tag aswell, which i can only assume is used to describe a 3rd party cheating? lol
 

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This is certainly based around themes I find interesting so I'll keep an eye on it.

That said the MC seemingly being someone with an interest in stopping the pervy stuff happening isn't quite in line with how I'd like to play things. Not clear if later on he can join the "bad guys" or not, so I'll hold judgement there. My other issue is that so far there's basically been 2 choices, who you hang out with, and if you go get captured - not clear if the former has much of any effect and the latter was just a game over. So I hope more player agency opens up once we get further into it.

I'm not big on koitatsu, people don't look enough like people for it to really work for me, but there's been a lot of work put in to increase the quality of the renders (lighting or something I'm presuming) so it does look a lot fancier than your average game made in that. I enjoyed the piercings and bodywriting once slutted up so that's something at least. The game generally seems well made and well polished.
 
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demello667

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This is certainly based around themes I find interesting so I'll keep an eye on it.

That said the MC seemingly being someone with an interest in stopping the pervy stuff happening isn't quite in line with how I'd like to play things. Not clear if later on he can join the "bad guys" or not, so I'll hold judgement there. My other issue is that so far there's basically been 2 choices, who you hang out with, and if you go get captured - not clear if the former has much of any effect and the latter was just a game over. So I hope more player agency opens up once we get further into it.

I'm not big on koitatsu, people don't look enough like people for it to really work for me, but there's been a lot of work put in to increase the quality of the renders (lighting or something I'm presuming) so it does look a lot fancier than your average game made in that. I enjoyed the piercings and bodywriting once slutted up so that's something at least. The game generally seems well made and well polished.
There will be more choices in future updates. These choices will lead to a respective ending (see my ending comment above). The story itself is static with choices but we get agency through these choices.

The quality has improved over time as more ways have been found to work better with lighting, clutter, and camera angles. A lot of work has been put into this. It has even been remastered three times to achieve this quality.

Ty for your comment <3
 
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Qahlz

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Agreed, That's one issue that needs to be fixed, As far as I know...the NEW TAG system is being worked upon for a long time now but hasnt been implemented, Stuff like NTR (NETORARE) , NTR(NETORI), NTR (NETORASE) should be very clear as those 3 are main disctinct differences, on the other hand you have Cheating tag aswell, which i can only assume is used to describe a 3rd party cheating? lol
There isn't even an "NTR" tag to begin with. We currently have three relevant tags that are defined in the tag list:
  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
  • Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
  • Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]

Netori (MC stealing the LI of another character) would best be classified under Cheating, while netorase would fall under Swinging.

Although I do have seen the netorare tag being applied even when the MC was female, or when it would rather fall under Cheating. I usually report those so that the tags can be fixed.
 
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There isn't even an "NTR" tag to begin with. We currently have three relevant tags that are defined in the tag list:
  • Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
  • Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.]
  • Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]

Netori (MC stealing the LI of another character) would best be classified under Cheating, while netorase would fall under Swinging.

Although I do have seen the netorare tag being applied even when the MC was female, or when it would rather fall under Cheating. I usually report those so that the tags can be fixed.
Yeah, I meant NTR Tags are going to be a thing in the planned revamp, the way it is right now, its still confusing and also super difficult to make sure these arnt mixed, thats why the new revamped tag list https://thef95zone.info/sam/planned_tags-v2.html . is planned for netorare, netori and netorase.
 
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This could be a possible secret ending or bad ending, which we call it. So yes, I could totally add that at some point, those endings are avoidable, so it would work too. <3
The game looks pretty interesting, I was surprised to see rimjobs (female to male) wasn't one of the fetishes, feel like its a lot tamer than some of the others lol (blood and knifeplay is insane lol)

Hope you'll consider adding it in the future

Contortion is also one that'd be cool to see, some others I can think of are Netori/cuckolding other dudes, milfs (preferably other dudes' mothers), (upside down) face fucking and stomach bulge/deformation from vaginal/anal insertion, choke/underwater/breathplay, bestiality, speculums, and maybe urethral play. Though dont think this game has femdom so on the girls, unless experimentation would mean potential futas (which then futa torture/ballbusting could be cool, preferably without actual gore)

Looking forward to see where this game goes, even if you dont add any of that stuff
 
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