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[Sxythe]

Then I will say, Yes.

The crush of MC will get fucked by others. Hope this clears up stuff better.

This would save everyone a lot of time if this was added to the main page as a note.
This is a hard pass for me and most others, and the fact I had to dig through multiple posts to find an answer, and how wishy washy the answers were until this one is a red flag.

 

[Kpoptarts]

ya this game is a skip for me might as well take harem out of those tags of your dev notes as obviously the mc is going to be pathetic and only get girls after they been fucked

lmao for real. I don't mind this type of game, but how in the hell is there gonna be a harem from this kind of start. xD

 

[-Smugger-]

I'll write a comment here to explain a bit more on the reasonings.

When I started developing this game months ago, I had no idea what NTR was, and didn't know it was one of the most disliked kinks too. After reading about it the first time, it said it was when a girlfriend or a wife was cheating on you. I guess I should have done more research but this is the information I got for it... So I never saw my game as being NTR because the "crush" of the MC is the one who gets taken. That is my bad, but I still won't change this, it's a key part of this game to drive the story forward and I'll stick with that, in the future when I'm better at everything, I could most likely make a update that makes paths to other choices to prevent this.


And the comment about Harem for this game, I see comments saying that the MC probably would not be able to start one or is too weak and pathetic, this is true. He is a 19 year old guy who just wanted to have some fun with his friends. This is update 0.1 which contains 1777 renders. 0.2 Will contain 1000+ renders, 0.3 will contain 1000+ renders... This will continue up to 1.0 which is the full release, if you don't think there will be any kinds of "Character Development" or "Time Skips", then I understand your reasoning for thinking this. But remember that the harem ending is in 1.0, so lots of stuff could have changed by then.


I'll update my itch.io page to show about the NTR to stop any confusion, but I don't have any power over this thread, that is up to thread owner. Adding tags or changing the developer notes and more.


Thanks for reading, and I do hope people give the game a try. As the NTR in this game is going to be small and also late into the game, can't really say exactly when because that would be huge spoilers. <3

 

[Devshill]

I was interested based on the premise cause it reminded me of an abandoned project but getting Flash banged by multiple random guys fucking girls and really 0 MC stuff kinda made me tap out. If things get better in the future I'll probably look back in but sadly probably won't support with cash.

 

[Eliza12]

I'll write a comment here to explain a bit more on the reasonings.

When I started developing this game months ago, I had no idea what NTR was, and didn't know it was one of the most disliked kinks too. After reading about it the first time, it said it was when a girlfriend or a wife was cheating on you. I guess I should have done more research but this is the information I got for it... So I never saw my game as being NTR because the "crush" of the MC is the one who gets taken. That is my bad, but I still won't change this, it's a key part of this game to drive the story forward and I'll stick with that, in the future when I'm better at everything, I could most likely make a update that makes paths to other choices to prevent this.


And the comment about Harem for this game, I see comments saying that the MC probably would not be able to start one or is too weak and pathetic, this is true. He is a 19 year old guy who just wanted to have some fun with his friends. This is update 0.1 which contains 1777 renders. 0.2 Will contain 1000+ renders, 0.3 will contain 1000+ renders... This will continue up to 1.0 which is the full release, if you don't think there will be any kinds of "Character Development" or "Time Skips", then I understand your reasoning for thinking this. But remember that the harem ending is in 1.0, so lots of stuff could have changed by then.


I'll update my itch.io page to show about the NTR to stop any confusion, but I don't have any power over this thread, that is up to thread owner. Adding tags or changing the developer notes and more.


Thanks for reading, and I do hope people give the game a try. As the NTR in this game is going to be small and also late into the game, can't really say exactly when because that would be huge spoilers. <3

NTR is controversial, yes, but I wouldn't call it unpopular. It has been the most popular tag on DLsite (the biggest Japanese eroge store in the world) for a long time now

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Even this website has almost 2k games tagged with NTR.


F95 just has a problem with users who hate NTR insisting on going into NTR game threads to harass players because they want every game to be just for them.

 

[joryh]

NTR is controversial, yes, but I wouldn't call it unpopular. It has been the most popular tag on DLsite (the biggest Japanese eroge store in the world) for a long time now

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Even this website has almost 2k games tagged with NTR.
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F95 just has a problem with users who hate NTR insisting on going into NTR game threads to harass players because they want every game to be just for them.

yeah. Cause number of games = number of downloads and players for each of those games. Never mind some of the uploaders act like they have a mandate from the smithsonian to archive everything ever made. Regardless of how shit it is.

 

[-Smugger-]

I'm making a final statement about the whole NTR thing, I have been thinking about it since I saw the comments and also how much I want this game to be liked by everyone... Or at least everyone who is into these kinds of games, the plan for making NTR avoidable was removed because of how much work it would be to actually make a second branch / path. That's why I decided it will be added in 1.1 which is after the final release (1.0).

BUT!!! I see many of you want to play this game, many think it has potential and looks good and that makes me happy. <3
I'll be adding the second path when the time comes, meaning you now will be able to enjoy this game without NTR, you will be able to take another path, and that path will be added as fast as I get to that point of the game. That update might take a bit longer but it's worth it to make myself and others happy and build this community more. <3

(Just know that the NTR part of the game would actually have been very very very late, almost at the end, this is the reason why making this path might not actually be that big of a problem.)



And for those who can't be bothered reading... NTR will be avoidable, and this is my final decision. <3

Love you all! Hope you enjoy my game.

 

[Kazandra]

Ok, as someone who doesn't like ntr i have to say something. First of all this is not ntr imo cause it is your crush not your gf. Also it is sad to see the dev getting blamed for people having no brain, and can't even stop to think for 3 seconds what even a toddler could figure out. Girls being turned into love dolls equals your crush being too. Which adds up to yes she gets fucked by others. Man that was some simple math.

 

[fuzzyskywalker]

I guess just to give the dev additional feedback, since he does seem to be engaging with all of these (some of it a bit over the top) in good faith.

For me personally, I play mind control/corruption/domination games to be the guy that does that to women. For a game to have those elements, but only the antagonists get to have that type of fun, with women that I am supposed to be emotionally attached to to boot, is a pretty huge turn off. Your game wouldn't be the first that would have this element in the game, I've unfollowed a few other games once I found that the mind control tag was there because antagonists use it to steal your girlfriend/wife/crush/etc, but you don't get to do it yourself.

But I will say, most people (from my experience, maybe others have more data on this) that are into corruption games are in it to either be the corruptor, or be corrupted. I've not seen too many people into it being a thing that they watch other people do only.

 

[jazz154]

I guess just to give the dev additional feedback, since he does seem to be engaging with all of these (some of it a bit over the top) in good faith.

For me personally, I play mind control/corruption/domination games to be the guy that does that to women. For a game to have those elements, but only the antagonists get to have that type of fun, with women that I am supposed to be emotionally attached to to boot, is a pretty huge turn off. Your game wouldn't be the first that would have this element in the game, I've unfollowed a few other games once I found that the mind control tag was there because antagonists use it to steal your girlfriend/wife/crush/etc, but you don't get to do it yourself.

But I will say, most people (from my experience, maybe others have more data on this) that are into corruption games are in it to either be the corruptor, or be corrupted. I've not seen too many people into it being a thing that they watch other people do only.

It's about the same for me. Though I also enjoy preventing others from taking girls that are close to protagonist.
That being said. Dev doesn't need to change what he wants to do just to cater to my tastes. It just means the game isn't for me, but there are some other people who might enjoy it.

 

[fuzzyskywalker]

It's about the same for me. Though I also enjoy preventing others from taking girls that are close to protagonist.
That being said. Dev doesn't need to change what he wants to do just to cater to my tastes. It just means the game isn't for me, but there are some other people who might enjoy it.

For sure. I'm just offering a data point for them. None of us are a litmus test for the universe.

And I agree with your enjoyment of "stopping" the antagonist or "saving" the women in these scenarios as well. I don't mind if villains have mind control/corruption powers, so long as MC has them too and eventually comes out on top (in at least one ending anyway). As someone who also likes yuri/lesbian/wlw, I especially don't mind a female villain maybe getting control of one of the women for a while, it honestly makes eventually re-controlling the woman and possibly taking control of the villain as well really enjoyable.

Savior sort of had a plot point like this where the youngest "sister" was briefly controlled by the enemy and you can reassert your control if you go evil route. Lustful Sin has an unfolding plot right now where another woman has moved into town and has taken control of one of the women in that game and it's very hot, in part because it does seem to building to MC eventually taking her back. Similarly, Symphony of the Void has introduced a slaver with similar power to the MC that's a woman and seems to be building to MC taking control of her at some point.

 

[herrderr75]

I appreciate ur comment in trying to clarify what the original comment meant, But ill come out very clear about this.


NETORARE MEANS BEING BETRAYED IN A RELATIONSHIP OR INFIDELITY.


I am sick of these NTR THIS NTR THAT comments, NTR has now become such a topic that as you urself mentioned, its tooo broad now, people have made it such a mess that almost every blackmail,rapey,bdsm,corruption game will be considered NTR and to be very honest, I DONT MIND.

If people want to be this sensitive and create there own ntr meanings which wasnt originally considered NTR, I got no issue since its them limiting what they want to play or not, and I also understand that those made up meanings are being taken seriously by new H gamers, I am just sick of people bombarding forums about these topics.



Anyways, sorry for the rant.

THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CHECK COMMENTS, FIGHT OVER NTR ETC.

THE GAME HAS TO HAVE NTR FOR THE STORY TO PROGRESS, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD. (What kind of NTR? the new kind where even a crush being taken is considered NTR, which btw wasnt EVEN NTR ORIGINALLY and if you dont agree, Go look it up what NETORARE Actually means before wasting ur time here fighting)

Crying about shit in all caps doesn't make your b.s. true.

 

[TheLocalNoob]

Make the game you want to make. To many times developers let others influence how the game is created and in turn they lose motivation and why they started to make the game in the first place. I am not a fan of netorare as I rather do the stealing and do not like to share, but that doesn't mean you should have to change your game because of my likes. People need to realize that not all games are meant for them and move on from the thread, you have been given an answer for your question it is time to move on and let the people who do enjoy the game discuss it in peace.

 

[Tyktamsyl]

So ntr won't happen until way later in development, and then it will be avoidable after it's final release? Does that mean that ntr is planned to be more of an ending rather than a theme? For the record im anti-ntr, but if that's the plan, then it doesn't sound so bad. Also I think the majority of us who dislike ntr would agree that stealing a crush is ntr.

 

[wiseold6996]

I appreciate ur comment in trying to clarify what the original comment meant, But ill come out very clear about this.


NETORARE MEANS BEING BETRAYED IN A RELATIONSHIP OR INFIDELITY.


I am sick of these NTR THIS NTR THAT comments, NTR has now become such a topic that as you urself mentioned, its tooo broad now, people have made it such a mess that almost every blackmail,rapey,bdsm,corruption game will be considered NTR and to be very honest, I DONT MIND.

If people want to be this sensitive and create there own ntr meanings which wasnt originally considered NTR, I got no issue since its them limiting what they want to play or not, and I also understand that those made up meanings are being taken seriously by new H gamers, I am just sick of people bombarding forums about these topics.



Anyways, sorry for the rant.

THIS IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TO CHECK COMMENTS, FIGHT OVER NTR ETC.

THE GAME HAS TO HAVE NTR FOR THE STORY TO PROGRESS, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD. (What kind of NTR? the new kind where even a crush being taken is considered NTR, which btw wasnt EVEN NTR ORIGINALLY and if you dont agree, Go look it up what NETORARE Actually means before wasting ur time here fighting)

I am pretty sure crush getting taken is in old definition of ntr. Bro acting writing in caps lock will make his bullshit true

 

[Kpoptarts]

I am pretty sure crush getting taken is in old definition of ntr. Bro acting writing in caps lock will make his bullshit true

Fun fact, if you type harder, the words you type are closer to being factual

 

[Kpoptarts]

I'm making a final statement about the whole NTR thing, I have been thinking about it since I saw the comments and also how much I want this game to be liked by everyone... Or at least everyone who is into these kinds of games, the plan for making NTR avoidable was removed because of how much work it would be to actually make a second branch / path. That's why I decided it will be added in 1.1 which is after the final release (1.0).

BUT!!! I see many of you want to play this game, many think it has potential and looks good and that makes me happy. <3
I'll be adding the second path when the time comes, meaning you now will be able to enjoy this game without NTR, you will be able to take another path, and that path will be added as fast as I get to that point of the game. That update might take a bit longer but it's worth it to make myself and others happy and build this community more. <3

(Just know that the NTR part of the game would actually have been very very very late, almost at the end, this is the reason why making this path might not actually be that big of a problem.)



And for those who can't be bothered reading... NTR will be avoidable, and this is my final decision. <3

Love you all! Hope you enjoy my game.

Bro, at the end of the day, make the game you want to make. Nothing you do will satisfy everyone. If your goal is to get every single person that plays the game to like it, you'll fail and be disappointed a million times over. As long as you make a game you're passionate about, and the game is a good one, there will be people that show up in droves to pay and play. I of course prefer a good old fashioned harem game, but you shouldn't really change your story trajectory because of me or anyone else. You'll fail faster that way, and you're gonna hate developing your game a lot quicker that way too. Just my 2 cents

 

[demello667]

So ntr won't happen until way later in development, and then it will be avoidable after it's final release? Does that mean that ntr is planned to be more of an ending rather than a theme? For the record im anti-ntr, but if that's the plan, then it doesn't sound so bad. Also I think the majority of us who dislike ntr would agree that stealing a crush is ntr.

Originally, the plan was to make a avoidable NTR path after it's completion. It will now happen during the development. Since some people consider crush being taken as NTR, there would have been NTR for them in the story before the ending. But now it will be made avoidable during the story itself.

 

[Eliza12]

yeah. Cause number of games = number of downloads and players for each of those games. Never mind some of the uploaders act like they have a mandate from the smithsonian to archive everything ever made. Regardless of how shit it is.

The DLsite numbers do mean sales, and sales are more important than the opinions of a random pirate.