Zippix

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Does anyone have the JAST version of the game since the watermark removal patch is broken for the steam version?
I think this IS the Jast version in the OP, actually.
Also, going by what someone else said here, the Steam "vanilla" + Jast uncen patch actually results in the same, watermarked experience. I'm guessing that some very enthusiastic Chinese guy did a watermark removal for the Chinese version, but it won't work for the English version. (the watermark remover cg.npk is like 1/4 of the size of the English version's cg.npk... dunno how they have managed that lol)

Also, going by the one scene I've made it to so far, it doesn't seem to be as bothersome as I had previously feared.
 
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I think this IS the Jast version in the OP, actually.
Also, going by what someone else said here, the Steam "vanilla" + Jast uncen patch actually results in the same, watermarked experience. I'm guessing that some very enthusiastic Chinese guy did a watermark removal for the Chinese version, but it won't work for the English version. (the watermark remover cg.npk is like 1/4 of the size of the English version's cg.npk... dunno how they have managed that lol)

Also, going by the one scene I've made it to so far, it doesn't seem to be as bothersome as I had previously feared.
Ah...actually this is the steam version since it has an "mojika_en_Steam" in the files along with "steam_api.dll" and "steam_appid.txt" in it too. But you may be right that the JAST version of Mojika may also have the watermark too
and I agree that the watermark isn't too distracting (as it's in the corner).

I think it's still possible to modify the watermark out manually in the future but I don't need it, I've been playing the game and enjoying it a lot! I'm interested in the story and the MC's struggle with himself passing the breaking point, and what revenge will entail and more!

OH and I noticed that a recent steam update for Mojika on steam removed the JAST "launcher.exe" plus other files for the steam version, nothing too big alright.

Yup!
Oh and I re-downloaded the JAST patch and re-apply it to the steam version of the game I downloaded here (or well from ryuugames), I noticed that the JAST patch timestamp is very different from the version on here by 1 hour, didn't see any filesize change though...just wanted to mention that too!

It's probably nothing but something I observed...
You'll most likely have to delete/restart the game from the beginning if you update the patch, thankfully I haven't started the game before re-applying the patch heh.

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Ah...actually this is the steam version since it has an "mojika_en_Steam" in the files along with "steam_api.dll" and "steam_appid.txt" in it too. But you may be right that the JAST version of Mojika may also have the watermark too
and I agree that the watermark isn't too distracting (as it's in the corner).

I think it's still possible to modify the watermark out manually in the future but I don't need it, I've been playing the game and enjoying it a lot! I'm interested in the story and the MC's struggle with himself passing the breaking point, and what revenge will entail and more!

OH and I noticed that a recent steam update for Mojika on steam removed the JAST "launcher.exe" plus other files for the steam version, nothing too big alright.

Yup!
Oh and I re-downloaded the JAST patch and re-apply it to the steam version of the game I downloaded here (or well from ryuugames), I noticed that the JAST patch timestamp is very different from the version on here by 1 hour, didn't see any filesize change though...just wanted to mention that too!

It's probably nothing but something I observed...
You'll most likely have to delete/restart the game from the beginning if you update the patch, thankfully I haven't started the game before re-applying the patch heh.

See ya!
...Erm...This is what is in the downloads from the OP... Just saying.
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I actually also checked steamdb.info, to with certainty be able to say that it's the jast version in here before posting - so that I wouldn't accidentally be misinforming or anything... xD
You must have mixed up your downloads.

At any rate, good to have confirmation about the watermark - and its fortunate non-excessiveness. (I agree)
 
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Bro, I have gone through enough shit, in my life, not sure if I want to go through this.
ngl man, the story is really good, it has a very interesting perspective that is told in, that being the mc looking mostly at the ground. Very well written
the double edge to that very sword is i feel like this VN wants to make you feel bad and it succeeded at least with me on every ending ive gotten so far. The endings i got arent even the "bad" endings on top of that. I wouldnt recommend this if youre trying to get off, but theres some scenes that could prolly do it for some, didnt work out for me though.
 

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I like how the wordsight and MC looking down on the ground feels like a take on people with low self-esteem. In real life, we can't know what other people are thinking but if we believe bad things about ourselves, we assume others are thinking the same
 
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I like how the wordsight and MC looking down on the ground feels like a take on people with low self-esteem. In real life, we can't know what other people are thinking but if we believe bad things about ourselves, we assume others are thinking the same
I thought it was this straight up when i started, but he was always right about everything lol
 

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Guys, I need some help, I played through, never got a single choice, credits rolled, end.
Should I start a new game ? The fcking text is so slow I wanna die and it's driving me insane.

Wtf, reading through the reviews it seems I missed a lot, look or don't look ? I never got a choice. Now I hit a new game and I'm still not given any choices , tf.
 
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hajkal

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so this VN you play as a ugly guy that's being bullied gets powers and punishes his wrongdoers?
That's the premise yes. But you should also know this is an utsuge (a depressing game) combined as with some torture porn
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so it doesn't go as planned for the protagonist. Still an interesting read IMO. Reminded me a lot of Euphoria, where I stopped caring about the porn and stayed for the mystery.
 

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I honestly don't get what everyone sees in this game, it is, in fact, extremely low quality. Even barring the fact that it is not my specific kink it is objectively bad.

But I have noticed that very critical reviews are being taken down (when I posted there were one star reviews, now there are none) which is artificially inflating the rating on this website (including my own because it "broke the rules of reviews" and yet the automated system in no way elaborates on which rule was broken (fun fact, I read all the rules, it doesn't break any of them)).

Long story short, the first *hours* of this game follow an extremely slow deliberate pacing recycling almost the same content over and over and over and over. Pacing text at a ridiculously slow one sentence per 3-5+ seconds. I managed to count the number of unique background assets on my fingers before quitting the game and uninstalling because it was so monotonous.

This is most likely deliberately to artificially extend gameplay for legitimate Steam purchasers in order to manipulate the Steam refund system.
 
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I honestly don't get what everyone sees in this game, it is, in fact, extremely low quality. Even barring the fact that it is not my specific kink it is objectively bad.

But I have noticed that very critical reviews are being taken down (when I posted there were one star reviews, now there are none) which is artificially inflating the rating on this website (including my own because it "broke the rules of reviews" and yet the automated system in no way elaborates on which rule was broken (fun fact, I read all the rules, it doesn't break any of them)).

Long story short, the first *hours* of this game follow an extremely slow deliberate pacing recycling almost the same content over and over and over and over. Pacing text at a ridiculously slow one sentence per 3-5+ seconds. I managed to count the number of unique background assets on my fingers before quitting the game and uninstalling because it was so monotonous.

This is most likely deliberately to artificially extend gameplay for legitimate Steam purchasers in order to manipulate the Steam refund system.
Take the hint that this game isn't for you. Those reviews had it coming because there's a fine line between critics and outright dissing.
1. Reviews requires a minimal of 200 characters and you can't use prompters, spams, or unrelated things. Which i saw before it gets removed are pretty much like those Steam reviews like 'Game bad, mc suck, buggy af, can't do this, blahblahblah' and call it 1 star shit. And 'balancing' rating isn't permitted.

2. Point out what's good and bad of the game. If you can't point what's good then take the hint that this kind of game isn't for you. I don't know how the hell people can rate things by only pointing out the bad points and call it 'Objectively bad'. People have their own taste and kinks. And i for one, don't give two shits about your standards as much as you don't give two shits about mine.

3. Their failure to understand that this is that kind of the game. Reviews are made to rate the game, not the genre. Objective means rating the entirety of the game. Not just pointing the bad ones. I agree with you on the repetitive lines and scenes, hence why i find this game exhausting. But i won't shit talk it because i know and understand that Mojika is that kind of Utsuge. Even if i do find it bad, i won't put 1 star outright.


I know damn well you won't read all this. But imma put it here anyway. F95 is one of the place that moderates the so called 'Free Speech'. Culling entitled users and call them out on their bullshits. People can live and let live in peace.
 
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Incase of people having difficulty in finding the route due to ''choices''but doesn't want to use a walkthrough and finding the route by themselves, here is some parts of pointers i copy and paste regarding about choice from VNDB discussion.

#2 by tyr
2018-10-16 at 06:50

Since it's easy to find a walkthrough but you still decided to ask here, I guess you want to find these routes by yourself.
I will give you the pointers you need.

First, let's make sure you understand how the choices in this game work. Every choice is a question of "look" or "don't look". There are three types:
-meaningless: you have to look. not looking will simply loop the event until you finally look

-character flags: looking will active a character flag for that character and probably lead to her route.

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notright

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Take the hint that this game isn't for you. Those reviews had it coming because there's a fine line between critics and outright dissing.
1. Reviews requires a minimal of 200 characters and you can't use prompters, spams, or unrelated things. Which i saw before it gets removed are pretty much like those Steam reviews like 'Game bad, mc suck, buggy af, can't do this, blahblahblah' and call it 1 star shit. And 'balancing' rating isn't permitted.

2. Point out what's good and bad of the game. If you can't point what's good then take the hint that this kind of game isn't for you. I don't know how the hell people can rate things by only pointing out the bad points and call it 'Objectively bad'. People have their own taste and kinks. And i for one, don't give two shits about your standards as much as you don't give two shits about mine.

3. Their failure to understand that this is that kind of the game. Reviews are made to rate the game, not the genre. Objective means rating the entirety of the game. Not just pointing the bad ones. I agree with you on the repetitive lines and scenes, hence why i find this game exhausting. But i won't shit talk it because i know and understand that Mojika is that kind of Utsuge. Even if i do find it bad, i won't put 1 star outright.


I know damn well you won't read all this. But imma put it here anyway. F95 is one of the place that moderates the so called 'Free Speech'. Culling entitled users and call them out on their bullshits. People can live and let live in peace.
The reviews broke no rules and your outright gatekeeping a whole genre.

Sounds to me like you love the game and are trying to hide it from legitimate critique?

People reviewing are under no obligation to find the good parts of a game.

Anyway, I did read what you posted, your welcome?
 

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Man, screw that true ending. You're really telling me she couldn't just have, I dunno, talked to the MC a single damn time and vaguely try to teach him that mindlock thing during the past years? Nah she HAD to mentally torture him for years (I think she was the reason the bullying became so bad?... even if that wasn't the case it still doesn't explain why she didn't just enlist his help normally) without giving him the vaguest directive, and them torture him even harder at the end but while giving him a good objective? And was the mindlock even fucking necessary to begin with?

I skimmed this game pretty hard since I stopped enjoying it much, particularly with the NTR-a-thon (hard to call it NTR but it was certainly framed that way), but my god her plan felt absolutely ludicrously stupid from what I managed to pick up. Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't just completely hate the bitch?

Anyway, none of the characters were likeable. MC gets manipulated every move he makes, he isn't funny, he's not cool, he's not smart and he isn't morally admirable - I have no damn reason to cheer for him. He's not even that hatable so I can't even enjoy his deaths. He's just painfully pitiful and that's it. His self-loathing also gets annoying to read after a while, since it's really quite repetitive.

All the girls except the shrine girl sucked. Main girl was obviously not very likeable, and everyone else wasn't likeable either because literally the ONLY thing occupying their thoughts when he looks at any of them at first is "oh god he's so disgusting get this freak away from me" - like, not even a little fucking pity, really? And even the shrine maiden wasn't that likeable anyway because she's either totally emotionless or practically brainwashed at all times - it's hard to say whether there was any genuine personality going on with her.

I don't hate dark fiction, even edgy fiction, but what was I genuinely struggle to see what I was supposed to enjoy about this. It doesn't do interesting commentary, it doesn't have anyone I want to cheer for through the misery, it doesn't grip me with compelling tragedy (in part because I have no capacity to be sad for any of these characters), it's not really even an edgy revenge story. Is it just misery porn?
 
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The reviews broke no rules and your outright gatekeeping a whole genre.

Sounds to me like you love the game and are trying to hide it from legitimate critique?

People reviewing are under no obligation to find the good parts of a game.

Anyway, I did read what you posted, your welcome?
Call it whatever you like, i could care less. But that's not the point i would like to make. Yes, people are under no obligation to point the good parts. I don't have a problem with anyone disliking the game. It's their right, as much as mine to like the game. They're entitled to dislike it as much as i'm entitled to like it. This is an utsuge after all. I'm won't be surprised if it has a 1-3 star total.

You see, my problem is with people writing reviews that actually trying to dissuade people from trying the game. Not just this game, not just this genre. Any game. Even those with intense guro, or rule 7 in it so long as it isn't posted here (If there's one, we're obligated to call them out). Take what the guy above me wrote, that's what i call legitimate critique. Because he actually point out why he disliked the characters. Now, people who wrote reviews like they write YouTube comment just like the example i pointed out on my earlier post is hardly i call legitimate critique. Because they didn't elaborate their thought on it. Hell, i doubt they're actually bothered enough to continue to play it.

What amazes me more that people also often to not actually considering 'maybe this game/genre isn't for me' before posting reviews then proceed to diss the said game just because it didn't land well on their palette. Or at least give a warning like 'If you're not into this kind of thing, then this isn't for you'. It's easier to just walk away if you don't like the game.

"Yeah no, this isn't for me. i ain't into this. nope, not gonna do it." and move on. Learn to live and let live.
 
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hajkal

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Man, screw that true ending. You're really telling me she couldn't just have, I dunno, talked to the MC a single damn time and vaguely try to teach him that mindlock thing during the past years? Nah she HAD to mentally torture him for years (I think she was the reason the bullying became so bad?... even if that wasn't the case it still doesn't explain why she didn't just enlist his help normally) without giving him the vaguest directive, and them torture him even harder at the end but while giving him a good objective? And was the mindlock even fucking necessary to begin with?

I skimmed this game pretty hard since I stopped enjoying it much, particularly with the NTR-a-thon (hard to call it NTR but it was certainly framed that way), but my god her plan felt absolutely ludicrously stupid from what I managed to pick up. Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't just completely hate the bitch?
I agree that her motivation isn't really consistent at the end with what happened before but if I was to try to explain it, I'd say that she's a probably a Yandere. She probably got mad that MC didn't recognize her and fell in love with the bullied girl before the beginning of the game while having to maintain the system of pillars in the school. Thus making the bullying worse in the hopes he'd run to her. But he never did. I think that because she's the one that orders the MC's death in the routes where he doesn't choose her but is also the one who comes to stop the bullying when he gets forced to rape the bullied girl in the class room and if you look at here thoughts then, she's strangely mild in her insults towards him iirc.
 

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I agree that her motivation isn't really consistent at the end with what happened before but if I was to try to explain it, I'd say that she's a probably a Yandere. She probably got mad that MC didn't recognize her and fell in love with the bullied girl before the beginning of the game while having to maintain the system of pillars in the school. Thus making the bullying worse in the hopes he'd run to her. But he never did. I think that because she's the one that orders the MC's death in the routes where he doesn't choose her but is also the one who comes to stop the bullying when he gets forced to rape the bullied girl in the class room and if you look at here thoughts then, she's strangely mild in her insults towards him iirc.
That does add up with her behavior (as far as I could tell) and is good headcanon, but I would've expected them to at least imply it if that was intended. Jap fiction doesn't exactly tend to be subtle with its yanderes, and this wouldn't just be subtle but completely unexplored... again as far as I could tell as someone who skimmed somewhat.
 
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