Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[JabyShrek988]

So the people here are mad about how WWG's supporters aren't mad at him ?

WWG is one of the few developers who is so close to completing the game. His followers' support is not based on personal acquaintance with him. He earned it by staying focused on the game and keeping them informed at all times.
People's disappointment is natural, too. It's similar to sports: there are great players and mediocre ones. ordinary performance by ordinary players is tolerated, but even a good play by a great player is sometimes scrutinised.

 

[jim8596]

So.... Abandoned?

 

[Roon]

If he posts an image of Ophelia with a cock or someone getting fucked by a dog once or twice a year all his supporters will forgive him and award 10/10 goty awards. Anyone pointing out this may be a little absurd is a hater/troll.

Meanwhile that sweet sweet £4k a month rolls in and he can sit peacefully by his indoor pool.

"Shall I write bad dialogue for Catherine today? No. No, I think I will suntan instead." he thinks.

I mean tbf it's a good gig, better than working at Subway or whatever else he'd be doing.

 

[SoulSwipre]

I'm not one who gives dev any kind of shit, regardless of the situation, much less WWG who's delivered a spectacular game that's on it's last chapter. They wanna spend time making it perfect, or like mentioned, really have some personal issues to work out. The game will come out, because it eventually always does.

But I do think it's not right to basically come out the day before his own deadline to say: "Damn guys, I thought it'll be done tomorrow, but seems like it'll take a few more months. Sorry bout that."

 

[Fayn Arawn]

If he posts an image of Ophelia with a cock or someone getting fucked by a dog once or twice a year all his supporters will forgive him and award 10/10 goty awards. Anyone pointing out this may be a little absurd is a hater/troll.

Meanwhile that sweet sweet £4k a month rolls in and he can sit peacefully by his indoor pool.

"Shall I write bad dialogue for Catherine today? No. No, I think I will suntan instead." he thinks.

I mean tbf it's a good gig, better than working at Subway or whatever else he'd be doing.

... you think someone making 4k a month could afford an indoor pool?

 

[DIO-DA]

Lot of people trying to explain for other people why they are mad. Just read their posts, you don’t have to guess and make up a head canon.

WWG misled his audience about the game’s development progress and timeline. Some think he may have had legitimate personal reasons and some think he lazed off and didn’t do anything but make teasers for the past several months. The likelihood of either is equal because as has been said, he’s chosen not to explain himself to his funders despite being funded for years.

It’s not anyone here’s responsibility to imagine a special set of circumstances that excuse this all away when even the dev doesn’t want to. Think what you want to think, though.

 

[mads0504]

if Cyberpunk had come out 3 years after its release it would have been remembered as a masterpiece, instead the shareholders wanted it to come out earlier with the consequences we know well. Never rush if you want a quality product

That is 100%, but I doubt that's the real issue. The issue is that the community was promised a release by March, then right at the end of March, the rug is pulled from under us and we're told that actually the release date is unknown.

 

[ShadowTower456]

even if he had explained that the reason for the delay you can't have any guarantee if it's true or false, maybe in the future penalties could be applied that if the creator after not having respected the delivery times of the game within the pre-established times that all patreons are automatically refunded and this can protect more those who release money to the developer

 

[dartred]

even if he had explained that the reason for the delay you can't have any guarantee if it's true or false, maybe in the future penalties could be applied that if the creator after not having respected the delivery times of the game within the pre-established times that all patreons are automatically refunded and this can protect more those who release money to the developer

That's just dumb. No dev ACTUALLY knows when they will be done with a chapter. Their release dates are just predictions. If you set penalties, no dev will ever predict when they think they will be done with a chapter. Then you'll get 1 of 2 things. Devs that have random updates without announcements or updates coming out at their release date unfinished for fear of mass refunding because they were a few days off of their prediction.

 

[Alexbt]

Well, let's start a new round of speculation, as we have since last September.

 

[DeltaDragon]

Im placing my bet of $0.00001 on it releasing 23ed of August 2025, any sooner release will invalidate my bet and be null and void.

 

[Alexbt]

WWG is now like a cheating wife who leaves the house after saying, "Yes, I slept with him," with no regard for the husband and children behind.

 

[BloodDemon365]

Well, let's start a new round of speculation, as we have since last September.

I had asked dev about the update. He said which project are you talking about.

 

[Kompas]

Oh wait, that wasn't a April Fools joke?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

even if he had explained that the reason for the delay you can't have any guarantee if it's true or false, maybe in the future penalties could be applied that if the creator after not having respected the delivery times of the game within the pre-established times that all patreons are automatically refunded and this can protect more those who release money to the developer

Domino's Pizza tried that 40 years ago, and it was a miserable failure.

 

[Nosferatu Suran]

the only thing that bothers me about the announcement is that it comes out of nowhere. at the beginning of march it was said that it would be ready in march and then all of a sudden he needs months more? it's ok for me if the update needs more time, but then you should communicate that better. no one can tell me that he didn't know that at the beginning of march, especially if you already have a certain amount of experience, like he does.

 

[Sagestar]

Lot of people trying to explain for other people why they are mad. Just read their posts, you don’t have to guess and make up a head canon.

WWG misled his audience about the game’s development progress and timeline. Some think he may have had legitimate personal reasons and some think he lazed off and didn’t do anything but make teasers for the past several months. The likelihood of either is equal because as has been said, he’s chosen not to explain himself to his funders despite being funded for years.

It’s not anyone here’s responsibility to imagine a special set of circumstances that excuse this all away when even the dev doesn’t want to. Think what you want to think, though.

No way the chance is equal, like what do you mean? Considering all the stuff you mention yourself(Him not explaining himself to funders, him misleading his audience, the total lack of communication, etc) . I'm not saying that there is no chance he is saying the truth, but to me and many more people here, it is wayyyyy more likely that something else besides IRL stuff(or maybe a combination tbf) prevented him from doing it and considering how much people looked forward to this, the no context answer we got provided to me is unacceptable.

 

[DIO-DA]

No way the chance is equal, like what do you mean? Considering all the stuff you mention yourself(Him not explaining himself to funders, him misleading his audience, the total lack of communication, etc) . I'm not saying that there is no chance he is saying the truth, but to me and many more people here, it is wayyyyy more likely that something else besides IRL stuff(or maybe a combination tbf) prevented him from doing it and considering how much people looked forward to this, the no context answer we got provided to me is unacceptable.

Hey man, I get what you're saying but the reality is we just don't know. If the issue is saying they're equal, sure, you can have your own odds. If the no-context to you is unacceptable, sure, I get that too. I don't think that's wild. That's why I ended with the below sentence.

Think what you want to think, though.

I'll say, I don't think this is good practice either and has lowered my opinion of them dramatically. "I'll let you know if anything comes up. I've been working non-stop on the update" turning into "I've been having real life issues and this has resulted in me losing large amounts of time" within 4 weeks and not saying anything until two days before your self-proposed deadline I think warrants discussion, instead of just being ignored or silenced.

 

[pinkie96]

"Yes I'm handling WWG and F95 terrorizing me really well. Why do you ask?"

 

[PBS666]

... you think someone making 4k a month could afford an indoor pool?

Speaking from experience, yeah, easily, for much less than that. Depends on the amount of rainfall though. Do cellars count ?