Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[elbo911]

unfortunately I'm noticing that lately updates are being completed more in the long term than in the short term as in the past. This is only to the advantage of the developer but I can understand that the patrons can complain about what happened. This is not the case with WWW which has always left quality updates, but in general I'm noticing that developers are taking it a bit too easy lately

Fallacy of composition. You may feel that there is a general tendency of that kind, but I doubt you have access to enough data to objectively verify that assumption. I guess everyone here would be able to name a few devs who in their opinion are clearly lazy/milking/whatever. But I at least think I'd be able to name just as many who are working diligently and reliably.

This kind of generalization just leads to prejudice and misconception imho.

 

[ShadowTower456]

I don't like to generalize but I'm noticing that lately there is this trend, I'm one of those who for Power Vacuum would wait even years for an update given the quality but in general I see many developers who once they reach a good number of patreons tend to "rest on their laurels" and then release an update that is not even worth a third of a Power Vacuum update

 

[Mmind]

I don't like to generalize but I'm noticing that lately there is this trend, I'm one of those who for Power Vacuum would wait even hanni for an update given the quality but in general I see many developers who once they reach a good number of patreons tend to "rest on their laurels" and then release an update that is not even worth a third of a Power Vacuum update

You're right I have also noticed the same, especially 2024 was awful for it, almost every project I follow saw a single update over the year with several not getting that. I don't know what is up with it but it destroys my confidence in this entire process. Also the "Reworks" how many projects now are remaking whatever they did over the last five years with the reason given "Updating to the current standard". Fuck you, finish your project and then update it.

 

[pinkie96]

You're right I have also noticed the same, especially 2024 was awful for it, almost every project I follow saw a single update over the year with several not getting that. I don't know what is up with it but it destroys my confidence in this entire process. Also the "Reworks" how many projects now are remaking whatever they did over the last five years with the reason given "Updating to the current standard". Fuck you, finish your project and then update it.

Yeah that's the reason WWG's the only dev I support. His updates have a good amount of content to development time and it's quality improves each update. Frequent teasers, status updates and bonus content like what ifs and to a lesser extent dream scenes also help.

His credibility took a big hit by the last status update imo and will live and die based on the updates quality and amount of content. Especially with the bonus content being moved to last chance.

 

[kapoor625]

Hell this could be a delay till 2026 and people would still be defending the delay

 

[JabyShrek988]

Hell this could be a delay till 2026 and people would still be defending the delay

"The delay" is not something they are arguing for. They are defending a developer who is almost done with a game, which is quite uncommon on this section of the internet.

If you look at how many games failed to make it past the fourth and fifth releases, you can imagine scolding a developer for missing the deadline to deliver THE LAST CHAPTER.

Rudeness is comprehensible but not acceptable, but criticism is appropriate.

 

[DoDoDoDODO316]

Re-read the status update in a vain attempt to find something to placate myself with but instead found myself newly annoyed by his last line;

"I'm as unhappy about this as anyone"
This pisses me off not because I'm unempathetic or not comprehending where he's coming from but bc it implies both parties have equal understandings of what caused 'this' when in reality only he knows the details we just get the result. I've not given up on him and I'm not saying we're entitled to know his personal life story but without knowing more of the reason saying he's as upset as we are feels hollow and insulting to say the least.

Yes I'm being dramatic. No that doesn't make me wrong/less of an overall fan. Yes it will be part of the reason I drink tonight.

 

[frefdre]

I am confused on how progress was lost? Did a goat come and eat his hard drive? Or did he do nothing for the past 2 months? Or is he rewriting the ending? I feel like he needs to elaborate to his patrons, even if it’s personal he should at least say that it’s personal.

 

[pinkie96]

Still 4 hours of April fools left

 

[Snugglepuff]

This pisses me off not because I'm unempathetic or not comprehending where he's coming from but bc it implies both parties have equal understandings of what caused 'this' when in reality only he knows the details we just get the result.

No, it doesn't imply that.
We're disappointed (to varying degrees) by the delay, and he's disappointed too. The disappointment of both is not contingent upon both knowing why the delay has happened.

Yes I'm being dramatic. No that doesn't make me wrong/less of an overall fan.

It doesn't make you less of a fan, but it doesn't make you correct.

 

[absaik]

has there been a dev besides NLT who has been consistent and truthful with update schedules? i understand these games take time but come tf on. over a year is crazy. it's going to be barely two hours worth of content too isn't it

 

[Anthony2]

has there been a dev besides NLT who has been consistent and truthful with update schedules? i understand these games take time but come tf on. over a year is crazy. it's going to be barely two hours worth of content too isn't it

Moonbox baby

 

[uscmiller22]

has there been a dev besides NLT who has been consistent and truthful with update schedules? i understand these games take time but come tf on. over a year is crazy. it's going to be barely two hours worth of content too isn't it

Caribdis has been phenomenal through two games now.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

has there been a dev besides NLT who has been consistent and truthful with update schedules? i understand these games take time but come tf on. over a year is crazy. it's going to be barely two hours worth of content too isn't it

Caribdis releases updates every 6-8 months, although if we assume that with each update it becomes longer and quality it tries to develop until the end of progress in a maximum of 10 months.
MoonBox releases an update every 2 weeks or monthly.
There are a couple more developers who know how to release updates on the promised date or month...

Although I still hope WWG had their own reasons to do so. you understand that developers are also people like us and they also have personal lives and problems. recently <No more money> was going pretty well and the developer always gave a development report and released updates and suddenly something personal happened and suspended the game, alas...
so we wait patiently and give time to WWG

 

[Whabahow]

has there been a dev besides NLT who has been consistent and truthful with update schedules? i understand these games take time but come tf on. over a year is crazy. it's going to be barely two hours worth of content too isn't it

I think dimajio/sad pepper deserves a shoutout here. Yes, they're genre of game isn't to everyones taste, but they are very consistent with updates, usually every 1-3 months

 

[Whabahow]

Those still clinging onto april fools copium, might wanna start to brace themselves for dissapointment. Upon more reflection, i can understand peoples anger, as he did say "working non-stop on the update" at the start of march, and then says how development has significantly slowed. I feel like i'll give my support for April, but if there's no solid info on whats happening, i may sadly pull support. 15 months without an update is a long time, and i'm sure it will be epic when it finally comes out, but basically paying for "slower pace" progession, not even any wallpaper voting now etc. I hope their troubles get sorted quickly as i am still giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[tramtoriana2]

damn i thought it will be april fools joke but i guess its not for me is no rush if he needs more time so be it

 

[goldenrhino]

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. Shame on you Dev...

 

[Everest Harrison]

At least this dev completed like 90% of the game before using the classic "milking patreons tactic", at least that makes him better than 90% of the devs around here. But yeah, its time for this game to end, everybody that could be fucked has been so, whats the point anymore?

 

[pinkie96]

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