It's not what the root of the arguments for pages has been. Not even my words, but theirs. The complaints have been the missed deadline he set on himself. it's all the complaints have been about. The length itself is not what people are mad about. The pledgers have been patient and will continue to wait. So no, length is not the cause of the pages of debating.
The length is why people feel lied to. Going from "This'll take a month" to "I need two more months, three total" is what feels most like the lie. I dont think WWG lied personally, but I do think, given all the evidence, that he didnt keep his word when he said he'd keep people up to date. Two more months of work dont manifest themselves out of thin air.
IDK why you keep bringing up pledgers as if they matter. Ever heard of the suck cost fallacy?
The pledgers don't matter? How can you say that? The pledgers are ALL that matter. Keep them happy and they stay pledge and for the most part, yes, the most part, they have been. We aren't going to judge his 5 years of development over this 2 month delay.
Maybe he will consider that smarter as to better placate the masses. I really hope not though. I feel it would unnecessarily constrict him in the way he lays out his story, either directly leading to a worse end result or indirectly via deadening his spirit first.
Yeah, and people will complain that he should work faster, maybe make larger updates, to finally get to the sexy stuff. -.-
So, WWG not being able to work on PV at all for a certain amount of time isn't possible because of the exact wording he used and what you make of it, but if it means you'll get your fix sooner it's totally possible he just mistyped something.
Because they're describing stuff that's meant to happen at a point in the story before the epilogues?
To be fair, we don't know that either. I share your interpretation 100%, but it's still just an interpretation of the scarce details WWG gave us about the situation.
“We aren't going to judge his 5 years of development over this 2 month delay.”
I counted four times in total (including now). One of which was the Patreon purge (Chapter Ten) and one was a few months before the release date (Chapter Seven). So, when it comes to the same circumstances as this one, where he said he needed an extra month just before he was supposed to release, it's once (Chapter Twelve). One time he has done this. On one time you're judging this.
Love to see an update.
“If we ignore the fact he misled/lied to everyone, and only look at delays for over a month; it’s only been once”
Of those, the delays have all been under 1 week except for 1. It's not the bad developer YOU are making him out to be either. You also need to stop putting words in other peoples mouths. He said there's only been 1 case like this one and that's true. you're treating his delays like they were all like this latest one, over a month delay.
You love twisting people's words to suit your own arguments... Really dishonest thing to do.
It's more of a "gotcha" than your unsupported statements. At least he's gone to the effort of exploring each previous delay whilst you haven't done anything more than bitch and whine.
Heavily biased and unsubstantiated speculation.
No, at best it's unforseen circumstances.
Of valid criticism, sure.
Who has told anyone that they're not allowed to be upset?
It is, actually.
See? Not "the many times" you said. Gotcha.
Yeah, and he said he doesn't want to give a hard date, because he'd give his pinky finger for an extra date. So, all timeframes are an estimate. That means the updates are released around that period, not exactly that period (which is given long in advance). This isn't his nine-to-five. This isn't his only job, not his sole focus. This is done in his spare time and guess what, shit happens. Sometimes stuff happens that means you have less spare time.
It's not purposefully misleading. Like I said, shit happens. If I'm supposed to be at work at nine, but I get into an accident on the way, did I mislead my boss by saying I'd be on time before I left? At best, it's bad luck he had to announce this, because it was never his intention.
True. But there's a difference between valid criticism and outright lies to fit your narrative. If I want to win an argument, I make sure my points are valid and proven, not vague and subjected to (wrong) interpretation.
Do we know this for certain? For some reason I was under the impression this was his main source of income.
