yossa999

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We can't judge how much negative affect WIAB is having on SG until the rework is complete. At the moment there are two factors affecting the development time. Once one of those factors is no longer an issue then we can more accurately judge the other factor.

However I would say that if working on two games is how Ocean avoids burnout and writers block, I'd prefer slower development time over infinite development time because he gives up on the game.
I guess one way to appease Villariba and Villabajo is to intertwine both games even more, so that updating either of the two feels like advancing the entire story of the Zanesverse. It's such a common plot device, when the story develops in two dimensions half-simultaneously, when a piece of story in the past alternates with a piece in the present. By the way, this gives the author many interesting opportunities, for example, to emphasize some important event in the past and immediately show how it affected the characters and the plot in the present. But that would require hell of a sync between two different plotlines and could eventually slow both games down.
 

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We can't judge how much negative affect WIAB is having on SG until the rework is complete. At the moment there are two factors affecting the development time. Once one of those factors is no longer an issue then we can more accurately judge the other factor.

However I would say that if working on two games is how Ocean avoids burnout and writers block, I'd prefer slower development time over infinite development time because he gives up on the game.
If he already started to experiment with his workflow cause of possible burnout before season 1 (out of six i think) is even finished than the future of this series is pretty dark lol...but well this is concerne for those who actually pay for/support this game :ROFLMAO:
 

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If he already started to experiment with his workflow cause of possible burnout before season 1 (out of six i think) is even finished than the future of this series is pretty dark lol...but well this is concerne for those who actually pay for/support this game :ROFLMAO:
I'm a supporter and I think he is smart to work on physical and mental health well ahead of an actual problem killing development.

I also think that developing two AVNs simultaneously is a smart way to manage workflow and try to avoid burnout due to focusing solely on one AVN for years.

Some people have criticized the rework, but this is not Ocean milking his supporters - it is Ocean working on SG so that he can have a great Steam release of Season 1. He was also Very upfront about the rework and why it was needed.

The rework will be completed by the time Ocean releases CH 5 Final.

The Steam release is needed so that Ocean can get better resourcing (which will let him buy significantly better hardware as well as afford to buy full music licenses for SG and WIAB). Originally, Ocean did monthly subscriptions for some of his music (and he did this because good music is expensive, and he was not well enough resourced to afford to buy permanent rights at the time).

If you have played the SG CH 4 release, for example, you enjoyed a number of scenes synchronized to great music.

Ocean had to pull some of this music, and he is working on buying the rights to replacement music for a number of those scenes.

So - I am a happy supporter who believes in what Ocean is creating and I'm looking forward to the Steam edition so I can gift SG Season 1 to a number of friends who would not otherwise get to enjoy this great creation!

Cheers! :coffee:
 

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Reading the last messages, I think it is worth remembering that Ocean was already burned during the development of chapter 3, and that at that time he was not working in WIAB (the latter had entered a long hiatus, plus at that time he had less hard and did one up date at a time, not working a day and a day).
If you look it up, both in this thread and in the WIAB thread you can read it directly from him.
He had a very bad time, his health suffered a lot, and he decided that the best way to manage is the way he is now.
And also remember that WIAB was first, it was his first attempt within this "industry", that although for many reasons he did not obtain the success that he has with SG, it continues to have a significant value and he found the way that serves him not to fall again in the self-destructive circle.
As more people get closer to SG, more people pretend that WIAB will disappear, but I trust Ocean's word, WIAB is not going to disappear, it will take twice or three times as long, but it will be there.
 

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Nice game, great renders, fun to read, but no idea why there is a need to develop 2 games at once when of those are still at character introduction and the other barely past that, after 5 years of dev time.
 

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Nice game, great renders, fun to read, but no idea why there is a need to develop 2 games at once when of those are still at character introduction and the other barely past that, after 5 years of dev time.
It was just explained in the posts previous to yours and multiple times before that throughout this thread, several times by Ocean himself.
But the gist of it is well 'compressed' into the last two posts.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Let's talk about one of our favorite MILFs in Summers Gone - Amber.

So -- she is smart, well-educated, not into drama, kind-hearted and Gorgeous.

If Amber is any guide for what Bella will look like as she ages... can you imagine coming home 20 years later to this?

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In particular, I Love the full body shot. The flair going from her waist to her hips along with the obvious well-developed abs...and that pose showcasing Amber as both feminine and strong.

I would not mind some nice 8K images showcasing the beautiful women of Summers Gone... starting with Amber!

Cheers!
 

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Yep, nice post Pax - of all the AVNs I have played, Amber is in her own tier at the top for me when it comes to LIs based on all currently knowable information. :love:
 
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I am getting the feeling we are going to have to choose one specific girl, and have no other options.
This is difficult since I like the way every single one of them is written, their individual personality quirks, and their renders, so I would have a VERY difficult decision.
 

yossa999

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I am getting the feeling we are going to have to choose one specific girl, and have no other options.
This is difficult since I like the way every single one of them is written, their individual personality quirks, and their renders, so I would have a VERY difficult decision.
Veeeery difficult, indeed. Although Ocean mentioned several times that throuples with certain girls are possible. And even some throuples will have their own ending (although I myself did not find confirmation of this in the posts of Ocean). Anyway, everything on this topic is vague, whether the girls in the throuple will know about each other's relationship with the MC, whether they will have a girl-girl relationship in the throuple, nothing is clear. I think it's more of a desired feature than planned content at the moment, we'll be lucky if there's noticeable progress on each main girl's exclusive stories in the near future. But I'd be happy to be wrong about that.
 

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I was hoping for a harem option though hahequ brought up a good point of replayability.
With that, it's going to be the exact same dialog though with little variance, so not exactly a pleasant replayable one would think.
 
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yossa999

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I was hoping for a harem option though hahequ brought up a good point of replayability.
With that though its going to be the exact same dialog though with little variance, so not exactly a pleasant replayable one would think.
I hope that with the author's pedantic attention to detail, the routes will be quite original. Until now, I would say that there are only two main routes: Bella and non-Bella. And they have mutually exclusive long scenes, like you either breaking into Holgerson's house with Bella or having a sleepover at home with horny Nami.
 

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I hope that with the author's pedantic attention to detail, the routes will be quite original. Until now, I would say that there are only two main routes: Bella and non-Bella. And they have mutually exclusive long scenes, like you either breaking into Holgerson's house with Bella or having a sleepover at home with horny Nami.
There is a Bella path, a Nami one (I am putting this in based on your addition, it's been so long since I played it, I don't remember myself), and a Victoria route that gave me the option on the last update I just played, which might be as prominent as the Bella route, but Victoria has friends I would want to include as either solo routes or as the harem I mentioned earlier, AND they can make it work, having love for more than one woman.
EVEN with just Bella or Victoria single routes are difficult to choose, since I am into Bella's tight athletic body, though not crazy about Bellas's attitude and outward performance to everyone that isn't the MC, which I am certain is going to change at least towards the MCs friends.
Then there is Victoria's path, I adore her attitude and personality since she is optimistic to everyone, including herself, but I am not crazy about the physical aspects like her body or the injury, come to think of it, Victoria's body looks to be similar to Bellas's with one exception, her abundant chest, the rest is not quite as toned right now, yet she is going for daily physio, so naturally it's going to tone just as much.
 
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