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Bro is gonna have 30 workstations and still have the same 'I need to get another workstation' at this point.
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This doesn't make sense? The APIs the Steam Overlay interacts with are well defined and works in 99.9% of scenarios. How does a VN with basic boolean logic and integer value comparisons manage to break xinput & Co. in a way no other Renpy VN on Steam has? That math ain't mathin
With all due respect to Ocean, the "suffering" of Patreons and fans alike pales in comparison to the "suffering" of he who: (a) set a high bar for the quality of the rework in the face of fan pushback, (b) had to work hard to deliver on his own expectations/vision and the promises he made to his Patreons/fans, (c) had to deal with numerous road-blocks along the way (music licensing, Patreon, hardware limitations), and (d) faced criticism and second-guessing from all us back-seat drivers.
Bravo Zulu, Ocean. I sincerely hope you are finally over the hill and game development going forward will bring you more pleasure than stress, plus some long-overdue financial reward for your perseverance and commitment to the project.
PS - the moment SG is released on Steam, please drink a large glass of milk as a middle-finger to those who accuse you of ill intentions.
PPS - anyone who thinks I am just being a fanboi or suck-up, I challenge you to develop your own AVNs, or any large project for that matter. If you've been there and done that, then you can appreciate the hard work and sacrifice required to bring large projects to fruition.
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- Jul 25, 2017
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my thoughts exactly but it is what it is. Can only hope for a mod that restores it but it's just a few renders so not the end of the world for me
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so i wonder if we will get any type of nudes what so ever in the steam version or it will just be a story based AVN with everyone with clothes on which it's not a AVN it's just a VN ocean sould market his game as a VN not a AVN if we will never get nudes on steam because of the fear of not selling it on steam because maybe steam doesn't like nudes in AVN's and ocean is playing it safe forgetting other AVN's on steam has anal, creampies and the such or is ocean just doing season 1 with no nudes and will do nudes on later seasons ? 
it's just to the point developers are scared of platforms like patreon and steam with rules of certain tags in their games that they alter the original concept of their game to get in line with the rules of these platforms and then there is other developers that say to hell with these rules and stick to their guns and with the original concept of their games .i guess i understand to a point if the only thing you care about is making money you will sacrifice everything for a buck even your orignal concept or what you had planned to begin with.
it's just to the point developers are scared of platforms like patreon and steam with rules of certain tags in their games that they alter the original concept of their game to get in line with the rules of these platforms and then there is other developers that say to hell with these rules and stick to their guns and with the original concept of their games .i guess i understand to a point if the only thing you care about is making money you will sacrifice everything for a buck even your orignal concept or what you had planned to begin with.
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I have played all parts of this game. When it arrives on steam I am going to buy it just to see the reworks. When it was reworked before I was giddy over the graphics(Mila). So I look forward to buying it and seeing the changes.
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There already is a mod: Summer's Gone Decensored Mod [v0.1] [Meushi], they will just have to update and add back in whatever it is.
- Dec 24, 2018
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Gotta remember the reason for the steam dealy - 5 business days started either Monday or Tuesday, even if Ocean uploaded Friday. Dependingin on timezones of course. Expecting normal business days over Easter is probably unwise of anyone.
I'm really quite excited, could say more, but heck, excitement! ~2309 new thingies! ~ a gazillion new theories to be launched while waiting for S2! ...okay, I know not everyone's excited for that
And very importantly, a definitive canon for S1, with no second guessing what may or may not change. I mean, that's part of the deal with games in development right? Things change based on what the dev needs to do.
I'm really quite excited, could say more, but heck, excitement! ~2309 new thingies! ~ a gazillion new theories to be launched while waiting for S2! ...okay, I know not everyone's excited for that
And very importantly, a definitive canon for S1, with no second guessing what may or may not change. I mean, that's part of the deal with games in development right? Things change based on what the dev needs to do.
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Only the first season will be "nude-free". Ocean already told us that he re-did the season 1 so it could go on Steam at all in countries like Germany. Season 2+ I, as a German, can only get via Patreon legally (unless they axe it, like WIAB) unless Steam makes some effort to do a age certification for countries like Germany.so i wonder if we will get any type of nudes what so ever in the steam version or it will just be a story based AVN with everyone with clothes on which it's not a AVN it's just a VN ocean sould market his game as a VN not a AVN if we will never get nudes on steam because of the fear of not selling it on steam because maybe steam doesn't like nudes in AVN's and ocean is playing it safe forgetting other AVN's on steam has anal, creampies and the such or is ocean just doing season 1 with no nudes and will do nudes on later seasons ?
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i understand that some countrys and even people are pruds and are not into nudes in movies and games it's like they are stuck in the 1950's and below.
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The thing is, Germany doesn't give a fuck about nudity, it would only be porn content that would be banned for under 18. But Steam likes to "play it safe", so this is on them not on Germany (cannot speak for other countries).
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there are games on steam that have been sold for years with everything like incest and the such and these game developers have been making money off them on steam and steam has not banned them but when someone like ocean wants to sell summers gone he has to play it safe and not have nudes in his game to sell on steam it's kinda dumb. does anyone know if steam is not in certain countries that these game deveoplers cant sell there game in from steam ?
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it isn't that he can't have nudes as far exactly as far I can understand it he wants Summers Gone to have a certain rating and fly under the radar without it being tagged as an adult game since there is no sex scenes in Season 1. At least that's what I read once, forgot if it was from Ocean or what.
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Exactly, it is just a too hard basket for them to be bothered with - I'm assuming they just don't want to have to deal with legitimate age verification vs privacy rules etc.
Does this mean GOG doesn't sell adult games in Germany either?
Regional stores have different content, based on what is permitted in the region. If you're in a region, you will have no idea what isn't allowed in your store, it just won't show. Ocean's trying to avoid that for the first season, so he can get the game to more people, who might then look to follow it other ways, such as buying it on other stores that don't have such restrictions.
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ok but does that make sense that season 1 will not be tagged as a adult visual novel with no sex or nudes so it can sell but season 2 and so on will .so season one will sell in certain countries on steam but season 2 and so on will not because of the adult visual novel tag. yeah you make money in certain countries n0ow but later you will not if you are playing it safe with season one but later you stop playing it safe. it's like you are thinking in the now and not future.
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Yeah, he explained in detail why he wants to keep the first season as non-adult. In short, there are two main reasons:
So as not to give false expectations to people who want to buy a porn game and will not find the desired content there. Anyone can just count the number of "sex when-ers" in this thread to understand what to expect.
To keep the licensed music, since its use in adult games would be a violation of the license.
Well, and all sorts of "minor" reasons, such as a wider audience coverage if the age rating is at least 18+ (or even better remains 16+.) Availability of the game in a larger number of regions. Things like these.
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