VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

ok but does that make sense that season 1 will not be tagged as a adult visual novel with no sex or nudes so it can sell but season 2 and so on will .so season one will sell in certain countries on steam but season 2 and so on will not because of the adult visual novel tag. yeah you make money in certain countries n0ow but later you will not if you are playing it safe with season one but later you stop playing it safe.

Correct, but I'm guessing that it acts as advertising - buy season one on steam because it shows up all nice and friendly, buy season 2 on Epic or GOG where it can maybe dance around the age issues - GOG at least makes you tick that you're of legal age for the content, even if it's not verified, and I think Epic does as well. Having it on Steam and generating interest in the Steam circles is a good thing regardless, it's worked for enough AVNs that it's worth doing, even if some regions are restricted. Once people have it in their library, Ocean can communicate with them via Steam as well, on the community pages, letting them to know to look on his own website for Season 2 for regions who can't access it via Steam maybe.

 

[Old Man Al]

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Does this mean GOG doesn't sell adult games in Germany either?

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That is right, but you can... evade that via VPN, strangly sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. On Steam it doesn't work at all, they are not to lazy to care about THAT stuff sadly.

 

[BobTheDuck]

That is right, but you can... evade that via VPN, strangly sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. On Steam it doesn't work at all, they are not to lazy to care about THAT stuff sadly.

Maybe using Heroic to access Gog/Epic might also be a workaround.

 

[Massagecook01]

Yeah, he explained in detail why he wants to keep the first season as non-adult. In short, there are two main reasons:

So as not to give false expectations to people who want to buy a porn game and will not find the desired content there. Anyone can just count the number of "sex when-ers" in this thread to understand what to expect.
To keep the licensed music, since its use in adult games would be a violation of the license.

Well, and all sorts of "minor" reasons, such as a wider audience coverage if the age rating is at least +18 (or even better remains +16.) Availability of the game in a larger number of regions. Things like these.

but what about later in season 2 and so on if he adds nudes and sex and it's a adult visual novel like other games will he violate the terms of service of these music companys and steam and not make money it's not looking to the future only in the now you have to plan ahead and look at what could be and what might happen as a business person. he might gain a greater number of players in the short term but lose those players later when he adds nudes and sex in season 2 +. i dont understand the logic of not now but later by not adding nudes and sex in the short term but in the long term he loses by adding them. i don't think these companys will change their minds in a year or two about sex and nudes in AVN's.

 

[yossa999]

ok but does that make sense that season 1 will not be tagged as a adult visual novel with no sex or nudes so it can sell but season 2 and so on will .so season one will sell in certain countries on steam but season 2 and so on will not because of the adult visual novel tag. yeah you make money in certain countries n0ow but later you will not if you are playing it safe with season one but later you stop playing it safe. it's like you are thinking in the now and not future.

You're so strategic, bro! Let the future worry about itself. For now, the question is about making the game much more popular than it is now and raising funds to continue the project.
Even if Ocean start to work at the speed of a rocket, no reworks, delays, etc., it is unlikely that he, continuing to work solo, will be able to release the second season earlier than in 2-3 years. And by that time 18+ people will already reach 21. You see, the problem is solved. Do not thank me.

 

[MorbidViews21]

will season 2 finally have sex scenes? This game could probably be very popular if he added sex scenes.

 

[yossa999]

but what about later in season 2 and so on if he adds nudes and sex and it's a adult visual novel like other games will he violate the terms of service of these music companys and steam and not make money it's not looking to the future only in the now you have to plan ahead and look at what could be and what might happen as a business person. he might gain a greater number of players in the short term but lose those players later when he adds nudes and sex in season 2 +.

Seasons will be separate entities. No music licensed under the terms of the first season will be used in the second season, as far as I understand from the dev logs.

As for age restrictions, these players will grow up and come of age when Ocean releases adult content.

 

[yossa999]

will season 2 finally have sex scenes? This game could probably be very popular if he added sex scenes.

The dev has stated several times that the second season will contain adult content. Believe it or not - it's up to you.

The game is already quite popular, look at the number of paid subscribers on Patreon. I mean popular for an AVN game of course. Since this game has been around, quite a few games that I liked and followed have closed due to the lack of support from players. And, believe me, there was plenty of sex in these games.

 

[MorbidViews21]

The dev has stated several times that the second season will contain adult content. Believe it or not - it's up to you.

The game is already quite popular, look at the number of paid subscribers on Patreon. I mean popular for an AVN game of course. Since this game has been around, quite a few games that I liked and followed have closed due to the lack of support from players. And, believe me, there was plenty of sex in these games.

Yeah i don't really keep up with this game. The last time i played was when chapter 2 came out. So a few years ago. So hopefully he makes some adult content for season 2, like he said he would. But talk is cheap. Story wasn't interesting enough for me to forgo adult content. Very few western visual novels on here would make me do that.

Yes its a popular game but i wouldn't say its very popular. 1300 patrons is really good. but its not big.

 

[MagicMan753]

NOOOOOO-

my thoughts exactly but it is what it is. Can only hope for a mod that restores it but it's just a few renders so not the end of the world for me

I mean it did say only for those versions of the game, you could just play the patreon, or subscribestar, etc. versions to keep the topless lake scene, that is what I am planning on doing

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Correct, but I'm guessing that it acts as advertising - buy season one on steam because it shows up all nice and friendly, buy season 2 on Epic

Epic does not allow adult content.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Epic does not allow adult content.

So then Gog or SS will be how people will have to circumvent restrictions then, once Ocean hooks them on steam.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

So then Gog or SS will be how people will have to circumvent restrictions then, once Ocean hooks them on steam.

People in countries where adult content is not allowed, just use a VPN and signup/in with a US account or the like.

 

[Massagecook01]

so they will have to pay twice once on steam then on SS or patreon just to get adult content how is that fair ? i mean is that the point to get double payment from people ? because thats a shitty practice. if i know that i'm never going to get adult content on steam ever then why buy the game on steam in the first place i'm not into VN but i'm into AVN.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

so they will have to pay twice once on steam then on SS or patreon just to get adult content how is that fair ? i mean is that the point to get double payment from people ? because thats a shitty practice. if i know that i'm never going to get adult content on steam ever then why buy the game on steam in the first place i'm not into VN but i'm into AVN.

Do wut? The game will be the same for both Steam and SS/Patreon for Season 1.

Season 2, won't even be available on Steam/GOG to the countries where adult content is prohibited.

So, it boils down to this, do you want the game from Steam, GOG, or Patreon/SS? You only need 1 of those.

 

[Massagecook01]

Do wut? The game will be the same for both Steam and SS/Patreon for Season 1.

Season 2, won't even be available on Steam/GOG to the countries where adult content is prohibited.

So, it boils down to this, do you want the game from Steam, GOG, or Patreon/SS? You only need 1 of those.

wow thats kinda sad people that love summers gone season 1 will never be able to play season 2 + because of their countries rules on adult content thats kinda shitty they will never be able to support ocean in the coming future. unless they find a way to get on a platform that allows adult content and their country allows that platform.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

wow thats kinda sad people that love summers gone season 1 will never be able to play season 2 + because of their countries rules on adult content thats kinda shitty they will never be able to support ocean in the coming future. unless they find a way to get on a platform that allows adult content and their country allows that platform.

This isn't 1998, there are so many ways to get around that stuff.

 

[Massagecook01]

This isn't 1998, there are so many ways to get around that stuff.

what like a VPN does that even work for steam or only for platforms like youtube were you watch videos and movies but could a VPN work for games like AVN's ?

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

what like a VPN does that even work for steam or only for platforms like youtube were you watch videos and movies but could a VPN work for games like AVN's ?

There are many upon many options for VPN's, some don't work for that stuff, but most do, you can watch Netflix that is region locked, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Steam, GOG, change locations to get stuff cheaper on Patreon/SS/Steam, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Mortarion]

It takes 2-3 days for Steam to review a game. The only checks they do is make sure all in-game payments work and go through the steam wallet, the game actually runs, it supports localizations, and there's no illegal content in it. We are on day 9 and still no update. Bet he'll come with a reason for further delays

3-5 buiness days...

The game was uploaded on a friday, considering the timezone and the weekend it's possible that the first look at this game was taken around Monday. And we dont even talk about personal bottlenecks because of the Easter holidays - if this is a thing in the US.



Also there's also the possibility that someone at valve decides that SG get a adult tag, that needs more time:



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NOOOOOO-

my thoughts exactly but it is what it is. Can only hope for a mod that restores it but it's just a few renders so not the end of the world for me

Does this mean GOG doesn't sell adult games in Germany either?

That got me curious a while ago, with my german IP i was not able to visit any adult contend on gog.com. But the efforts to avoid these measures take waaaaaaay less effort to make than on steam. Create a nw account with a - let's say - french or UK IP should be enough.