murphy88

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Yup.
One A6000 cost around 5500€ and I need to get at least two at once. (Reason down below.)




It's a custom-designed GPU Render(Server) Rack/Box that can hold a custom amount of GPUs. (10+. No limit.)

Besides the extreme upfront costs... It would need external cooling and my electricity bill would probably be 1500€+ a month. (I already pay 400€/month for 3x 3090s.)

And I'm almost certain, I will have to increase the goal again until I can actually afford it... and sleep well.



It was the plan to get one... but then I found out you can't run them with a 3090 in the same system.
And using only one A6000 would cost me a lot of rendering speed.

That's why I will go for two of them at once. So I don't lose any rendering speed and I'm pretty sure my system can hold a third A6000.

I just can't afford them at the moment.




Pretty much this.


I have to scale some stuff down (Character amount, etc.) to not blow out the 24GB Vram.
This can be solved by professional GPU cards.

And those cards are a must when I make the switch to Blender.


But that the scene lags like hell is just Daz's fault.
Blender is much better at handling gigantic scenes. It offers functions like Simplify, proxy, etc.


Daz also can't provide me with the tools I need for some really good animations... But it still holds up when it comes to still renders.
I am still a Baby 3D-Artist and there's still so much to learn. Even in Daz.

And I could buy MotionBuilder (Animation software) to use with Daz... But it costs 2000€/annual.

And all these costs of (Assets, music, Zbrush, Adobe, Marvelous, hardware, and electricity) are adding up.
Add Motionbuilder and the price of the two A6000s to this and things are going above and beyond.


I'll just have to work with what I have until I saved enough.
As long as I have a few A6000s before Blender, we're going to be fine.
So I guess you don't use Blender because it is more complicated, right? I understand that it is more permissive when it comes to elaborate scenes, but not having effects or poses "predetermined" or that you can buy already made, it takes more time to elaborate a scene.

The result you get is brutal in terms of quality, as they have said above, light years ahead of DPC (without detracting from their work), but that is costing you a lot of economic investment, it shows that you do this for passion, because anyone else would try to improve the margin of economic benefits.

It's a pity that people don't appreciate these things.
 
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Yup.
One A6000 cost around 5500€ and I need to get at least two at once. (Reason down below.)




It's a custom-designed GPU Render(Server) Rack/Box that can hold a custom amount of GPUs. (10+. No limit.)

Besides the extreme upfront costs... It would need external cooling and my electricity bill would probably be 1500€+ a month. (I already pay 400€/month for 3x 3090s.)

And I'm almost certain, I will have to increase the goal again until I can actually afford it... and sleep well.


It was the plan to get one... but then I found out you can't run them with a 3090 in the same system.
And using only one A6000 would cost me a lot of rendering speed.

That's why I will go for two of them at once. So I don't lose any rendering speed and I'm pretty sure my system can hold a third A6000.

I just can't afford them at the moment.




Pretty much this.


I have to scale some stuff down (Character amount, etc.) to not blow out the 24GB Vram.
This can be solved by professional GPU cards.

And those cards are a must when I make the switch to Blender.


But that the scene lags like hell is just Daz's fault.
Blender is much better at handling gigantic scenes. It offers functions like Simplify, proxy, etc.


Daz also can't provide me with the tools I need for some really good animations... But it still holds up when it comes to still renders.
I am still a Baby 3D-Artist and there's still so much to learn. Even in Daz.

And I could buy MotionBuilder (Animation software) to use with Daz... But it costs 2000€/annual.

And all these costs of (Assets, music, Zbrush, Adobe, Marvelous, hardware, and electricity) are adding up.
Add Motionbuilder and the price of the two A6000s to this and things are going above and beyond.


I'll just have to work with what I have until I saved enough.
As long as I have a few A6000s before Blender, we're going to be fine.
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ocean you are the greatest
 

Lorenz1

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I wonder if Bella is/will become a rape victim once her mother finally marries as she expects, or if it is her biased "I am smarter than everyone" PTSD. Honestly, for all we know, the guy who is trying to marry Amber might be an alright guy and Bella just misjudged him like she misjudged Vanessa.

"I am trying to be friendly with my possible step daughter".
"FUCKING CREEP!"

I love Bella, but after the last chapter I have very little trust to her opinion on people.
 

den_tiger

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Nick seems to be a nice, down-to-earth guy, but then you realize who he has for daughters.
Makes me wonder.
 

LostGhost

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I wonder if Bella is/will become a rape victim once her mother finally marries as she expects, or if it is her biased "I am smarter than everyone" PTSD. Honestly, for all we know, the guy who is trying to marry Amber might be an alright guy and Bella just misjudged him like she misjudged Vanessa.

"I am trying to be friendly with my possible step daughter".
"FUCKING CREEP!"

I love Bella, but after the last chapter I have very little trust to her opinion on people.
Just when did it mentioned that amber seeing someone?
 

D3xzalias

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I wonder if Bella is/will become a rape victim once her mother finally marries as she expects, or if it is her biased "I am smarter than everyone" PTSD. Honestly, for all we know, the guy who is trying to marry Amber might be an alright guy and Bella just misjudged him like she misjudged Vanessa.

"I am trying to be friendly with my possible step daughter".
"FUCKING CREEP!"

I love Bella, but after the last chapter I have very little trust to her opinion on people.
Amber isn't dating the holgerson She was invited to a party by him, Being invited doesn't mean you are dating!
 

SmiLego

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Just when did it mentioned that amber seeing someone?
So far as MC knows and Bella told us, she is seeing noone.

Amber isn't dating the holgerson She was invited to a party by him, Being invited doesn't mean you are dating!
The elder Holgerson is trying to date her, doesn't mean she is trying to date him in return.
He is trying to date Amber, Amber is considering his action and his invitation as being neighborly.
Bella fears that the elder Holgerson will finally make Amber understand he is trying to get to her and she will accept it.

If Bella is right and the Holgersons end up being the scumbags she says they are, at least she is preparing herself physically for an ass kicking if they try anything on her.
And from what the MC knows, how they are treating Mila (behavior in school and the potential lawsuit) we don't have any reason to believe she's wrong.

Beta version? Does this mean we got a completed version soon?
Yes, should be in a week or two once DAZ is done taking it sweet time rending the end of the chapter 1 rework.
 

Plaguerave

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I haven't played this in awhile and so much happened I am still trying to absorb it all and try to figure out where this is going.

I know Nami and MC planned revenge against Bella and things took a interesting twist.

I am excited for more.
 

Nemo56

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This story caught me by surprise, it turned out quite differently than I expected.

I find it refreshing, that the story is focused on one girl for a change and there are not 200 choices who to be in relationship with and who to betray with whom.
Sure, the MC can be flirty or a loner, but it doesn't affect the main story too much. Of course some interaction between main girl and side characters will be necessary at some point if the guy keeps flirting with everyone.
 
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Fortuna ღ

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This story caught me by surprise, it turned out quite differently than I expected.

I find it refreshing, that the story is focused on one girl for a change and there are not 200 choices who to be in relationship with and who to betray with whom.
Sure, the MC can be flirty or a loner, but it doesn't affect the main story too much. Of course some interaction between main girl and side characters will be necessary at some point if the guy keeps flirting with everyone.
It's not focused on one girl. Your experience will be determined according to who you've favored based on your choices, and the girl who that experience will be tailored around is not predetermined. There are 8 guaranteed main love interests(means they have endings), 4 additional main love interests(means that their statuses are subject to change), and 20+ lewdable characters in total. Honestly, the reason there hasn't been any real relationship drama is that we're still super early in the story. Bella's route is currently the most developed, and they haven't officially gotten together yet. I'd revisit this comment after a few updates lol.
 

Cabin Fever

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This story caught me by surprise, it turned out quite differently than I expected.

I find it refreshing, that the story is focused on one girl for a change and there are not 200 choices who to be in relationship with and who to betray with whom.
Sure, the MC can be flirty or a loner, but it doesn't affect the main story too much. Of course some interaction between main girl and side characters will be necessary at some point if the guy keeps flirting with everyone.
Are you talking about the same game in which nearly half of the girls with more than a minor speaking role are confirmed LI's by the dev, and a significant portion of the rest are identified as possible LI's by the dev?
 

Lorenz1

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Are you talking about the same game in which nearly half of the girls with more than a minor speaking role are confirmed LI's by the dev, and a significant portion of the rest are identified as possible LI's by the dev?
It is so far into the future for now that I doubt my children will get to play in romance with most of the characters.
 

Nemo56

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Are you talking about the same game in which nearly half of the girls with more than a minor speaking role are confirmed LI's by the dev, and a significant portion of the rest are identified as possible LI's by the dev?
I didn't read any announcements, just played the story so far which was very focused except for the last chapter.

Oh well, so at some point it will be a jack of all trades again without any real focus . Shame. But it's good so far, so I dare to hope.
 

Fortuna ღ

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I didn't read any announcements, just played the story so far which was very focused except for the last chapter.

Oh well, so at some point it will be a jack of all trades again without any real focus . Shame. But it's good so far, so I dare to hope.
What do you mean "without any real focus"? The focus is on Summer's disappearance and MC's desire to overcome his issues in order to become a better person. I don't think you'll find any top AVN that focuses exclusively on one LI. Not sure where you were going with that. You can focus exclusively on one LI with your choices, but other LIs exist. They're characters in what we call a story. They're not going to suddenly disappear when you pursue someone. Do other women suddenly disappear from your life when you pursue someone?

Edit: The story so far focuses heavily on Bella because she is the MC's project partner(amongst many other things). In the coming chapters, other female characters will become the focus. It's all tied to the main plot of the story. If you're pursuing Bella, then you'll see more of her regardless of the chapter's focus. This is the case for every main love interest that you pursue. Seeing as there are no harems in this game, you're going to have to focus on someone(or no one).
 
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Nemo56

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What do you mean "without any real focus"? The focus is on Summer's disappearance and MC's desire to overcome his issues in order to become a better person. I don't think you'll find any top AVN that focuses exclusively on one LI. Not sure where you were going with that. You can focus exclusively on one LI with your choices, but other LIs exist. They're characters in what we call a story. They're not going to suddenly disappear when you pursue someone. Do other women suddenly disappear from your life when you pursue someone?

Edit: The story so far focuses heavily on Bella because she is the MC's project partner(amongst many other things). In the coming chapters, other female characters will become the focus. It's all tied to the main plot of the story. If you're pursuing Bella, then you'll see more of her regardless of the chapter's focus. This is the case for every main love interest that you pursue. Seeing as there are no harems in this game, you're going to have to focus on someone(or no one).
Actually I found 2 :) Well 1.5, since one features on 2 ladies.

Problem with too many girls is, that it's impossible to get constant story supply for all of them, so most of the time it leaves people disappointed because their favorite girl doesn't get significant attention for months, because the developers are busy with the others. Then there's polls on who to focus next leaving the losers disappointed. Less girls means more story content for each of them. The main reason why I first thought this was focused on one was, because all the others kept appearing once in a while without anything to say really. And once the focus shifts to one of the others, the same might happen to those who the focus is currently on.
The emotional journey of the MC is the thing that keeps the story going, but not why people come and stay.

As I said, I dare to hope this works out.
 
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Fun Shaundi

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The elder Holgerson is trying to date her, doesn't mean she is trying to date him in return.
He is trying to date Amber, Amber is considering his action and his invitation as being neighborly.
Man, this is completely true, but am I the only one who isn't underestimating Amber in this sense?
Due to her profession, I doubt she doesn't know what Holgerson's real intention is.
I feel like Amber is way more clever, but as a good therapist able to read people, she just chooses to blatantly ignore his intentions and insist in just having neighborly interactions with him.
At the same time, this teaches Bella that she can't go out in life trying to fuck people up just because she dislikes them or want to date her mom: She has to learn to deal with it like 'normal' functional person.
 

Fortuna ღ

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Actually I found 2 :) Well 1.5, since one features on 2 ladies.

Problem with too many girls is, that it's impossible to get constant story supply for all of them, so most of the time it leaves people disappointed because their favorite girl doesn't get significant attention for months, because the developers are busy with the others. Then there's polls on who to focus next leaving the losers disappointed. Less girls means more story content for each of them. The main reason why I first thought this was focused on one was, because all the others kept appearing once in a while without anything to say really. And once the focus shifts to one of the others, the same might happen to those who the focus is currently on.
The emotional journey of the MC is the thing that keeps the whole thing going, but not why people come and stay.

As I said, I dare to hope this works out.
Oceanlabs doesn't have that problem. He's a developer that puts story above everything, so I doubt it will ever get to that. When the focus is shifted, as seen with Bella in this very update, the LI you're pursuing will still function and be active in the background. They don't suddenly cease all function when they're not the main focus of a chapter. They continue on progressing their own subplots and having actual lives outside of the MC. They all have lives and don't exist solely for the player/MC to pursue.

Oceans has already formed the story in such a way that there'll always be content for the girls(which is to say, he kept some elements realistic). This isn't your standard AVN where patrons will vote for a specific scene or a specific character to receive the spotlight. Oceanlabs does not work like that. I'm not sure what you're accustomed to when playing other games, but things are a bit different here.

I'm also not sure what you were on about near the end of your post, but the story is the main reason 90% of players are still here. MC's internal plot and the external plot involving Summer's disappearance(the intrigue surrounding them) are what hooked a lot of players. Everything else followed naturally.

Edit: I'm speaking from my perspective as a writer. If SG were formed more like your standard AVN, your points would hold weight. The only problem is... it's not.
 
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