Nemo56

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Oceanlabs doesn't have that problem, and probably won't ever have that problem. He's a developer that puts story above everything, so I doubt it will ever get to that. When the focus is shifted, as seen with Bella in this very update, the LI you're pursuing will still function and be active in the background. They don't suddenly cease all function when they're not the main focus of a chapter. They continue on progressing their own subplots and having actual lives outside of the MC. They all have lives and don't exist solely for the player/MC to pursue.

Oceans has already formed the story in such a way that there'll always be content for the girls(which is to say, he kept some elements realistic). This isn't your standard AVN where patrons will vote for a specific scene or a specific character to receive the spotlight. Oceanlabs does not work like that. I'm not sure what you're accustomed to when playing other games, but things are a bit different here.

I'm also not sure what you were on about near the end of your post, but the story is the main reason 90% of players are still here. MC's internal plot and the external plot involving Summer's disappearance(the intrigue surrounding them) are what hooked a lot of players. Everything else followed naturally.

Edit: I'm speaking from my perspective as a writer. If SG were formed more like your standard AVN, your points would hold weight. The only problem is... it's not.
We'll see. I would be very happy to be wrong. I just didn't find a VN yet that works as you describe - at least not a live one. The completed ones where you don't have to wait for a while between updates can work quite well this way, but not the ongoing stuff.

I also didn't say, that people don't come for the story. I only talked about his emotional journey, not all aspects of the story.
VNs I play/read for the story, but it makes not much difference if the MC has become a better man because he doesn't get into fights anymore or not. The interactions with the others are what makes it interesting.
We were told a few times that MC had no social life before, there was a warning not to overdo it. Without these conversations where either he or Name tell this to the reader one would never guess. He certainly doesn't act like it. When choosing the "best bestie to everybody" option, he never struggles, he never fails (at least so far). Don't get me wrong, these are nice details, they add some flavor, but they are definitly not the most interesting part of the story arcs.

Well, I hope for the best, it's still a long way to go.
 

Tairnel

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Why does daz give he so many problems? is it the program itself or the lack of memory on the 3090? other devs like Pink cake also use daz? is it maybe the fact of demanding such detailed scenes that puts the equipment in a tight spot? lack of a processor that runs the directories faster?

I have looked at him patreon out of curiosity and it says that with 2500 patrons he would acquire a render station, what exactly does that consist of and how would it improve the workflow?
Consists of 2 A6000 workstations with massive amount of cores and vram... the 3090s are meant for gaming so are not able to render as efficiently when compared to some workstation class gpus of the same gen.
 

SmiLego

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I'm not saying it's better to make the mom an LI, but you're complaining about realism in an adult game which is very nearly a dating sim?
Calling Summer's Gone a "very nearly dating sim" is kind of mean to OceanLab.
And speaking of realism, a MC falling in love with his legal guardian seems more plausible than a 2 year old orphan, living with a landlady that isn't his legal guardian but is treating him just like one... I hope this whole thing get a bit smoother with the chapter 1 rework to prevent the steam people thinking "oh it's one of this game that's badly hiding the incest under landlady/roomate, refund please!"


She went to buy some milk at the grocery store down the street, she should be back any minute now...
*looks at the clock*
Any minute...
*looks at the clock again*
I hope the milk hasn't gone sore after all this years of waiting... I bet she went back to get it change, yeah that's why it's taking so long!
 

murphy88

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Consists of 2 A6000 workstations with massive amount of cores and vram... the 3090s are meant for gaming so are not able to render as efficiently when compared to some workstation class gpus of the same gen.
Not exactly, 2 A6000 is what he is asking for with 1250 patrons, 2500 patrons is a rendering station and he has explained that it is a separate server that can host up to 10 GPUs.
 
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murphy88

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10 GPU huh? ZAMN!
Well, that's what you can fit in one of those racks, it doesn't mean that when he reaches those patrons he's going to have 10 A6000.

But I guess I would start with 4, with that you can advance faster and with less limitations than now.
 

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i started to think about that too after that scene when the MC remembers summer and elsa, when elsa says what her mom thinks about summer she makes a very sad face, idk i think its possible but its a long shot, but it did comes to my mind when i saw this scene
 

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///Hello,

It wasn't planned to do a second Bibi Log to tell people what's up with the final... But I underestimated Daz's scene opening times.

So, I'm currently 390/600 rendered images into the Final.
As you can clearly see, shit slowed down.

Many that have been following me for quite some time, might know that Daz has some atrocious loading times. (It loads all the morphs up for every character.)

On top of that... I had some problems building the outside of the college. There weren't any suitable assets and I had to improvise. That took a while.

But to give something back, I have some new comparisons and one simple Chapter 4 preview. (High Res for download at the bottom.)
Now I customized quite a lot and I have a clear vision of what I want to go for. s, a very big environment.

We start with the evening scenes after visiting Victoria.///
What is this? Is the author going to redraw the floor of the game?

---And does anyone have a new WALKTHROUGH of Chapter 4?
 
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chtouvidel

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I still don’t understand at what point I missed the fact that the game turned from a VN into a kinotic novel. Simply put, it became a railroad one. Your choice in chapter 4 essentially does not affect anything and your choice doesn’t give a damn. You can’t refuse parties, etc. But the most offensive thing is Bella. There is a desire to purely switch to obscene language, because there are simply no other words. that they can’t be together. And the dumbest thing is that it was decided by the developer and not the player, the player can’t influence it in any way. Instead of Bella, they slipped us Zara, Vanessa, Nadia, Nami, Sonya, who are purely interesting to me only once, overslept, forgot. I played purely for the sake of Bella, content with her, building relationships with her, and at the end of a possible marriage. (because this is a omission of a huge layer of content). but that most likely you will have to forget about this game and not return to it anymore.
 

Quarron

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I still don’t understand at what point I missed the fact that the game turned from a VN into a kinotic novel. Simply put, it became a railroad one. Your choice in chapter 4 essentially does not affect anything and your choice doesn’t give a damn. You can’t refuse parties, etc. But the most offensive thing is Bella. There is a desire to purely switch to obscene language, because there are simply no other words. that they can’t be together. And the dumbest thing is that it was decided by the developer and not the player, the player can’t influence it in any way. Instead of Bella, they slipped us Zara, Vanessa, Nadia, Nami, Sonya, who are purely interesting to me only once, overslept, forgot. I played purely for the sake of Bella, content with her, building relationships with her, and at the end of a possible marriage. (because this is a omission of a huge layer of content). but that most likely you will have to forget about this game and not return to it anymore.
The break-up part was necessary for their character development, it's not like her routine is locked. You're still on her routine.
 
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I still don’t understand at what point I missed the fact that the game turned from a VN into a kinotic novel. Simply put, it became a railroad one. Your choice in chapter 4 essentially does not affect anything and your choice doesn’t give a damn. You can’t refuse parties, etc. But the most offensive thing is Bella. There is a desire to purely switch to obscene language, because there are simply no other words. that they can’t be together. And the dumbest thing is that it was decided by the developer and not the player, the player can’t influence it in any way. Instead of Bella, they slipped us Zara, Vanessa, Nadia, Nami, Sonya, who are purely interesting to me only once, overslept, forgot. I played purely for the sake of Bella, content with her, building relationships with her, and at the end of a possible marriage. (because this is a omission of a huge layer of content). but that most likely you will have to forget about this game and not return to it anymore.
Don't worry. Most of the choices do have an impact. Just not immediate. Their influence of which events would take place and in what form comes much later. Understanding how this game works requires a fair portion of patience and focus.
You can't expect ANY game on this site to be realistic to such extent to let you do literally anything you could think of doing in real life in given situations. Just because some games do let you refuse parties doesn't mean all other games ought to do so too. Very few VNs, if any, can afford such variability. There are always some boundaries.
Yes, it would be nice to be given an opportunity to tell everyone to fuck off and refuse any party invitation. But the fact that we aren't implies that it's probably a big event of the story which needs to be told.
Maybe your complaint regarding this matter will hold some weight when the party takes place. But until then, it's irrelevant.

As for Bella, well do you really think her and MC won't end up together even though she's a guaranteed LI? Of course they will, provided you as the player desire so. Just not yet. They both already acknowledged they like each other. However they also got some problems which need to be dealt with first. I think that the mutual craving will eventually overcome any logical thinking and they simply won't be able to resist giving it a try.
 
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Crusader of Romance

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I'm not saying it's better to make the mom an LI, but you're complaining about realism in an adult game which is very nearly a dating sim?
No, I'm saying that every adult game doesn't have to have the mom as a LI. I don't get why it has become standard. I mean, am I the only person on this site who doesn't have sexual fantasies about banging my mom? Because I have zero interest in that and there are so many games here that could be great but are ruined because they have to put incest in it. Some do censored versions but they are usually really badly censored.
And what is the point in putting the mom as a LI and then being forced to rename her "landlady" because there are rules against incest?
 
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