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I'll pay for AVNs that I like when a new update is released, but I only support a very few select devs on an ongoing basis. Also I'd rather buy the game on steam if available.
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If it's a dev I like, I do low support (like minimum tier) until release month and then raise my support enough to get the release. If it's Steam available and fully completed, I'll grab it. I'm hesitant to buy VNs on Steam that aren't finished because they could just be abandoned. Main exceptions so far have been BaDIK and SG. I justify those by saying at least they finished their respective seasons.
When I first got into VNs, I thought the way to go was heavy support on few devs that I liked, get into their discords, and be able to talk shop. I got disillusioned with that fast.
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"The standards of beauty required in modeling" don't decide whether a girl is beautiful or not, considering how skinny some models can be to comply with those standards.
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Don't recall anyone has recently...so the point of your post (other than thinking you're far more important than you actually are and bait) is what exactly?
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Note: As of October 16, 2021, Ocean has said that the list of LIs can be expanded to more LIs but it is also possible that some LIs will be dropped, except for the eight that are listed as guaranteed. Update February 2023: as of Chapter 4.5, "less than 5" new LIs are yet to be introduced.
Man can dream her special render in the first season dlc gives me a little hope that she will join the cast and technically until she gives us her name we haven't been introduced
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#45,059 First post i read after entering to the thread after a while
The rest of your message has 0 sense whos saying im more important than anyone?
My purpose? Would be so good if devs were consistent a focus on a thing at a time and stopped dropping an update every 18 months like most important games are having
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I would like to have my own lapdog dev. I would tell him what to do and he would do as I want.
I remember that time long ago as well. The funny thing is: SG was the first game I noticed that had an expected 12+ month development cycle between updates - well above the average. This was shortly after Ocean reworked Ch 1.It's actually insane how things changed from when I first started playing AVN's about 6 years ago. Back then most games I played were being updated every 2-5 months. It was not at all uncommon to see a new 400-500 render update every 3 months. At that time a subscription model made sense.
Today most games I play get updated maybe every 8-12 months at best. And you'd think all of them would come out with 1k+ renders at least, no? Nope! Sometimes not even with devs who do it full time. Imagine subbing for an entire year for maybe an hour of underwhelming content that doesn't even feature your favorite LI.... Fucking lunacy.
I do my part as I've always done. All devs I want to support get my money on the month of release. That's it. It encourages them to put out faster and better updates. Instead of giving them a guaranteed source of income which encourages the opposite. Nothing is safe from Enshittification, not even AVN's
As you say, that kind of development cycle (8-12+ months) is normalized now, but back then it was rare.
Yet there still are devs with established games that offer small and consistent monthly updates. A newish dev even made the brilliant decision to render their new game at 720p and they want (and have the ability) to turn out an update every a few months.
PS - anyone remember the most clichéd goals on Patreon - AVN devs would put a monthly $$ target as a goal that, when reached, would allow them to buy this and that to speed up development. Their ultimate monthly $$ target tier had a goal that, when reached, would enable them to quit there job and work on game development full time. LOL!
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I had three games with 3-4 months cycle in my list. Two of them are abandoned now.I remember that time long ago as well. The funny thing is: SG was the first game I noticed that had an expected 12+ month development cycle between updates - well above the average. This was shortly after Ocean reworked Ch 1.
As you say, that kind of development cycle (8-12+ months) is normalized now, but back then it was rare.
Yet there still are devs with established games that offer small and consistent monthly updates. A newish dev even made the brilliant decision to render their new game at 720p and they want (and have the ability) to turn out an update every a few months.
PS - anyone remember the most clichéd goals on Patreon - AVN devs would put a monthly $$ target as a goal that, when reached, would allow them to buy this and that to speed up development. Their ultimate monthly $$ target tier had a goal that, when reached, would enable them to quit there job and work on game development full time. LOL!
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I remember that one developer who asked for more money so he could move to Japan?!PS - anyone remember the most clichéd goals on Patreon - AVN devs would put a monthly $$ target as a goal that, when reached, would allow them to buy this and that to speed up development. Their ultimate monthly $$ target tier had a goal that, when reached, would enable them to quit there job and work on game development full time. LOL!
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Offtop, but no, he doesn't. Why would he? Neither does Ocean.
But some people in this thread talk about it as if the developers are their tame monkeys.
No it's "just" the first chapter of season 2 which is bigger than normal having the size of 2 (slighly more?) normal chapters. The dev said it would be bigger than half of season 1.
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I get the feeling that this isn't just the case in this thread - it’s pretty much everywhere
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Some other threads are much-much worse, really. I'm avoiding those shitholes where entitlement triumphs all reason.
This one is really one of the calmest and most reasonable places.
This one is really one of the calmest and most reasonable places.