Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0-wip.5791] [Kompas Productions]

[ScrewMe]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but with that level of income/patronage, why doesn't he (temporarily) hire a couple more coders to pick up the pace and build a solid foundation?

I imagine he has some great ideas that he wants to draw and implement but he's been "stuck" for years.

It's not about hiring coders or people to do art. I usually take the position of my colleagues when it comes to developer vs customer battles, but SS has been here forever...heh, as much as I hate it, I'll have to use term "milking" in this case.

Like, the main story is finished, but there are dozens of character substories left to explore: the principal,sports teacher etc etc.
Instead of properly developing their branches and give to folks their stories, we get a remake. Why? Because it's easier)

When Summertime Saga came out, it stood out. But as of now it's just a sad story of what greed may turn once a great game into.

Should've been finished long, looong time ago.

 

[Throwawayxyz]

According to the roadmap they released a year ago the debbie stuff was supposed to have been completed in the first couple WIP updates... and yet...

Lmao if you looked at that road map and believed it, you must not have been following the tech update arc for this game. This dude is so obviously just doing the bare minimum to keep making almost a million a year, he's never again going to meet any deadline he puts forward. He hasn't in about 3 years now I think? Cause the tech update was supposed to take like a few months lmao

 

[chicho1958]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but with that level of income/patronage, why doesn't he (temporarily) hire a couple more coders to pick up the pace and build a solid foundation?

I imagine he has some great ideas that he wants to draw and implement but he's been "stuck" for years.

It's called milking the cow and if their patrons haven't noticed in all the years this game been here well they get what they paid for and probably more than 1 will kick the bucket before it's finished.

 

[chicho1958]

It's not about hiring coders or people to do art. I usually take the position of my colleagues when it comes to developer vs customer battles, but SS has been here forever...heh, as much as I hate it, I'll have to use term "milking" in this case.

Like, the main story is finished, but there are dozens of character substories left to explore: the principal,sports teacher etc etc.
Instead of properly developing their branches and give to folks their stories, we get a remake. Why? Because it's easier)

When Summertime Saga came out, it stood out. But as of now it's just a sad story of what greed may turn once a great game into.

Should've been finished long, looong time ago.

Just looking at the year it started(2016) and the npc they used says it all about the cow milker.

 

[Jun Jinseong]

Save file, please!

 

[Throwawayxyz]

The Coding Problem was Real, what Dark Cookie should have done for the Tech Update is hiring two to three Coders that work together and keep one of them when the Tech Update is done.
What Cookie did instead: fired the Coder who fucked up and just hired one coder for this Project that now needs to bring everything back alone. That was stupid.

I'm sorry but unless the coder he hired is only working about once a week, and less than 8 hours at that, I just don't think this could possibly be true. I don't really care how messed up the code is - how could it take 4+ years to resolve it?

I imagine we're all adults here - imagine you start a job and your predecessor majorly fucked things up before you. Do you think it would take you 4+ years just to resolve that? I don't think so, and I work in HR technology lol. Admittedly it's different from game coding but I can't imagine it's THAT different that it could take years longer than my hardest projects.

 

[Ungaa]

It's not about hiring coders or people to do art. I usually take the position of my colleagues, but when it comes down to SS, that's been her forever...heh, I'll have to use term "milking".

Like, the main story is finished, but there are dozens of character substories left to explore: the principal,sports teacher etc etc.
Instead of properly developing their branches and give to folks their stories, we get a remake. Why? Because it's easier)

When Summertime Saga came out, it stood out. But as of now it's just a sad story of what greed may turn once a great game into.

Should've been finished long, looong time ago.

SS and Library story are the OG cows. Unfortunately both cows are long dead yet the devs keep strutting their way down to the morgue squeezing the mouldy milk outta them.

Credit should be given to at least the original designs being quite good. But unfortunately patreon style incentives for these people seemed to have stopped them completing the game.

 

[Magister Masquerade]

Well then, you're the sucker then.

I've not paid a penny to any developer here.
Never have, never will.

Calling someone a 'sucker' just because they aren't poor and want to reward good work and ensure these devs will continue rising above the sea of trash that regularly fills the ero scene is childish. Not to mention many of us also upload games for other's sake.

Fair enough if you don't want to, but the point is that the guy I responded to was wrong, and that's true of normal pirates too. The UK even paid for research (they later suppressed) that proved the same thing. A lot of pirates eventually do buy the games they pirates for a variety of reasons, including the same psychology that gets people to pay for "free to play" games.

So his whole argument was completely irrelevant on both sides of the coin. This is definitely a valid place to complain, regardless of whether you support the game, and many people do (or would if this game's progress wasn't such a scam).

 

[Throwawayxyz]

Calling someone a 'sucker' just because they aren't poor and want to reward good work and ensure these devs will continue rising above the sea of trash that regularly fills the ero scene is childish. Not to mention many of us also upload games for other's sake.

Fair enough if you don't want to, but the point is that the guy I responded to was wrong, and that's true of normal pirates too. The UK even paid for research (they later suppressed) that proved the same thing. A lot of pirates eventually do buy the games they pirates for a variety of reasons, including the same psychology that gets people to pay for "free to play" games.

So his whole argument was completely irrelevant on both sides of the coin. This is definitely a valid place to complain, regardless of whether you support the game, and many people do (or would if this game's progress wasn't such a scam).

If I find a game on here that's really good, I usually kick it 5-10 bucks and do so again when they drop an update. SS killed the Patreon model for me as it showed itself to reward dragging on the development process more than rewarding content created, but I can't imagine just being a leech who never gives the people who work hard on these games a dime lol.

 

[Darkaura]

a leech who

Gives it away for free. Even on his Patreon. Kinda hard to call DC a leach. I give him a ton of latitude on that. Even if the rework takes a while, and it has been a while, it's still free. There are far worse offenders to any "milking."

 

[phinny1]

Anyone got problem with this game?

Yes. Very much so.

 

[Throwawayxyz]

Gives it away for free. Even on his Patreon. Kinda hard to call DC a leach. I give him a ton of latitude on that. Even if the rework takes a while, and it has been a while, it's still free. There are far worse offenders to any "milking."

.... I didn't call DC a leech. I was saying it's like being a leech to play these games from this site and not kick at least a couple bucks to the developers who make them.

 

[josh963]

So FYI, because DC and his crew aren't the sharpest tools in the shed these aren't in the cookie the jar.

However, upon completion of the current content, visiting Debbie in the shower will allow one to access 3 preview scenes:

Blowjob
Sex in the shower (now at a much worse angle)
Sex after the shower

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The kitchen evening sex scene has also returned.

That is how DC gets away with telling people that this update would include sex with Debbie.

At the rate this shithousery is going, there will almost certainly be a 5th Debbie update, but that's pure speculation. To be honest, it wouldn't be unfair to speculate he goes a 6th update, and we make it a full year of Debbie.

To think, these Debbie updates are only happening because DC tried to sneak 8 (now 9) year old art into the first release of his tech update after vanishing for nearly 2 years, and people quite reasonably mocked him for it.

If I am going to give credit for one thing, DC's team that compiles the updates (putting together the code and the art and such), are actually beating the allegations that it takes them 1+ months to put it together. Stuff DC drew a week ago on stream is appearing in the updates. So well done for no longer being completely shit.

See everyone again in 2 months.

HOW TO GET THESE SCENES WITH DEBBIE ? ANYONE ELSE GOT IT? IF YES, COULD PLEASE SHARE THE SAVE FILES?

 

[Netgear]

One year, just one more year and we'll be able to change the title to Decadetime SAGA.

Almost a full decade since this thing started, everything has evolved during that time. AI came in and now we have AIcg, AI coding and AI story telling, with this, one can make a game in no time compared to what was not so long ago.

Soooooo, if this game is still on working progress after nearly a decade, there's only one logical explanation.....

Get the cow mommy, it's milkingtime saga.

 

[Inquisidor]

Hi guys
I been following this title from a long time ago
but i have been feeling a little bit disapointed for this eternal v21.0.0 WIP
Should i still download the nexts WIP updates of this title or you recommend me to wait for the actual V21.0.0??
Does it matter the content of this update??

 

[Antihero69]

I only ignored 2 people here(you probably can guess who ‍)
And Every page, every fucking page i have the "show ignored content" button for me
I thought maybe it'll shows all the ignored contents in all pages but NO it'll show only the ignored One in that page
I even chekced random number pages to check and still can find them
I hope that DC pay them otherwise it's not healthy to just being here 24/7 please get a life

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Ps: i know you can read even with me ignoring you

 

[sandyknees34]

.... I didn't call DC a leech. I was saying it's like being a leech to play these games from this site and not kick at least a couple bucks to the developers who make them.

I can't think of a single game on this site that deserves a penny for development. The patreon model time and time again has shown to be a disaster. How many times do we have to see a game milk the main story and give shitty update after shitty update on some side character? Or how many games get forced niche fetishes added by "community vote?"

 

[gamercunt]

anyone have a save?

 

[acehigh]

Just looking at the year it started(2016) and the npc they used says it all about the cow milker.

Dang, my nephew graduated both high school and college in that time period

 

[St. Nix]

Slowed speed of vertical pan the first time Anon dreams of Debbie.

Nah, at this point. I'm convinced that they're just making shit up. This shit doesn't deserve to be in changelog. You just change the millisecond on your variable.