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Keep your kinks to yourself...TMI HP....TMI....
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No matter how many antagonists the dev introduces, no matter how awful or how much the stakes are raised, they will always pale in comparison to the true evil in this game: Kaija and the parents.
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I'd just say the Templars as a whole - Kajia, the parents but the organization as a whole as well.
No matter how many antagonists the dev introduces, no matter how awful or how much the stakes are raised, they will always pale in comparison to the true evil in this game: Kaija and the parents.
- May 11, 2020
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talking about kink shaming ....
No matter how many antagonists the dev introduces, no matter how awful or how much the stakes are raised, they will always pale in comparison to the true evil in this game: Kaija and the parents.
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fuck the templars (and Kaija, but not in a sexual way )
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No matter how many antagonists the dev introduces, no matter how awful or how much the stakes are raised, they will always pale in comparison to the true evil in this game: Kaija and the parents.
I don't know if it's cause im super forgiving , just don't think about things until after I play something. As usually when I play a AVN I really don't think critically about how fucked up what person X did , I just accept it go through the motions and move on with the story. However that is also part of the reason why I find it so damn easy to not be angry or dislike certain characters at times. ( Tho there are some cases for sure that isn't the case for me , just depends on the character and game)
My first playthrough I didn't even think Kaija or the parents even really did anything that bad at first. Because to me Kaija trying to save us in my mind made up for any wrong then also I totally understood why she never told us about the Templars.
With the Parents I didn't even see that either , I saw them as loving parents that tried to not have the MC apart of their world. I Blame TV for this one as I see this trope all the time but usually the parents on TV are portrayed better to show they are more caring and loving.
It wasn't until I read post on this thread after my first playthrough I started to think about it and I understand why they are disliked so much why others see what they did as something unforgiveable.
However I will say I still don't dislike them or the templars , I just don't agree with what they did but hard for me to be mad at them either just not in my nature. However that is for several reason. I find it easier to be more understanding and forgiving with a parent or lover if they had good intentions or reasons for what they did but they just went about it all wrong. Or I just don't agree with what they did but can see the why without any ill will behind it. Which is where I put Kaija and the parents and why I never thought once about the option to burn bridges with them in the last update.
Me not disliking the Templars is simply because I don't believe they are evil nor do I think they are good. I have the same thoughts about the Elfs I just like the Elfs slightly more cause they seem more friendly and peaceful to live with once you get to know them and they accept you.
So add KIM from Yesterday Crossroads. The situation is like Kaija and Steph on steroids.
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It may have just been the way it was written, but I was initially very angry about the deceit and then after I thought about it, even angrier because it was also stupid - they weren't in any way protecting MC from anything, they were actually making things more dangerous for him and people in their situation, with their experience should have known that. And then I thought about it some more - about things before MC found out, and about his newfound abilities and then I didn't even believe that protecting him was the intent, and suspected that they were still lying to him about the entire situation and then they killed Finn.
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Yeah I never thought about it at all like that until I read others thinking something alike or close to it on this thread. But I chalk that up to my forgiving and understanding nature now if I thought there was any bad intentions behind that would of been a different story. After reading post here I more see it as them being idiots and going about everything the wrong way. imo they shouldn't even be in a leadership role with the way they act and are written to me they should be no more than grunts / soldiers.
Tho I don't share the opinion of your where you think they or the Templars killed Finn
- May 11, 2020
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Dessolos; That is exactly my point, and it is why I don''t like this antagonizing (much better yet to be fair) going on, in this thread or site in general (even in social media) a couple of people make you feel sorry for how you feel or how you are; and how you play the AVN.
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yeah that's how I used to feel at times 6-8 months ago coming to this thread much better now days. It's why I used to take breaks from this thread for weeks at a time.
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Just the nature of the internet. Every post is written as a firm absolute statement because that's one of the few things that universally translates when not speaking in person with all the nuance and inflections.
Add memes into the mix and it becomes a mocking firm absolute statement.
It's why we used to tell people to not get too wrapped up on internet.
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yeah fuck that guy I hated him from the first time I saw him on my first playthroughStathanator still fair game though I assume?
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That's fair, but from my POV - I already absolutely hated the Templars, and had zero trust in them as an organization or individually. I had pretty much concluded that they were the bad guys when I went to see Medb and then (after a rocky start) Medb, Finn and the Alfar were nothing but kind, honest, generous and helpful so when Medb tells me that the Templars killed Finn, not only do I have no reason to disbelieve her but it completely fits with what I already think about them, and worse, I can't help but suspect that she'd still be alive if it wasn't for MC. (That she either wouldn't have gone on that mission, or she wouldn't have been killed, if she hadn't met MC.) Ceo says we're supposed to be neutral toward the Templars but, like I said before - if he pulled a Dr. Pink Cake and we returned to find the Templar complex on fire, and everyone unconscious and we could only save one - I'd make sure Jess wasn't there and then grab a nice souvenir coffee mug on my way out the door.
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Stathanator still fair game though I assume?
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Ultimately the main narrative of this game seems to be that by playing "battleship", keeping secrets while taking large firm action, causes loss of trust and breeds resentment regardless of intention.
Templars protect humans from people more powerful than them/protect realm from human overpopulation -> cult playing god
Elves protecting their world from more numerous forces that would subsume them -> vicious killers
Parents trying to not involve kids -> breach of family trust/bonds, playing puppetmaster and managing kids life/not letting them live their life on their own terms
Mav of course found the solution, offer The Stathanator up for all factions to take shots at.
Templars protect humans from people more powerful than them/protect realm from human overpopulation -> cult playing god
Elves protecting their world from more numerous forces that would subsume them -> vicious killers
Parents trying to not involve kids -> breach of family trust/bonds, playing puppetmaster and managing kids life/not letting them live their life on their own terms
Mav of course found the solution, offer The Stathanator up for all factions to take shots at.